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80% Of US Adults Are Near Poverty, Rely On Welfare, Or Are Unemployed
Zero Hedge ^ | 7-28-13 | "Tyler Durden"

Posted on 07/29/2013 2:12:25 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat

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To: RKBA Democrat

I wonder how many “households” in the United States had zero real earned income last year. I would think that’s the percentage of the population that is growing the fastest and tipping the scales.

The question for conservatives is even if we regained full control of the government what would you do with them?


41 posted on 07/29/2013 5:17:09 AM PDT by Pan_Yan (I believe in God. All else is dubious.)
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To: Fai Mao
I agree with you. The article stated that "at some point in their lives" concerning poverty. Well naturally, when most people move out of the house, before they have a regular job, they're near the poverty line. That doesn't mean they're impoverished or without resources. They're mostly just young.

I think my area of the country if fairly representative of most of the country outside the huge urban areas. Nobody is starving around here. The unemployment rate is about 6%. The great majority of Americans are living good. Not even an economically-challenged, socialist boob like Obama can make things deteriorate that fast. People have to use common sense when reading these articles. It's from the AP. They're trying to indict capitalism not Obama.

42 posted on 07/29/2013 5:33:17 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: RKBA Democrat

I think this article is mostly nonsense and misrepresentation. I grew up in a neighborhood of white trash, and drunken Indians. That was my impression of what life was like, and that was in the 60s and 70s. My parents were sober hard working people and we eventually were able to move the heck away from there and I began to see a more prosperous way of life. No more welfare bums, and drunks living off dog good so they could afford their whiskey.

There are pockets of self induced poverty everywhere. The worst thing Obama and company have done is destroy hope, and that is one point I can agree with the author on. We must rid the nation of this lawless cabal of corrupt politicians and return to the rule of law and the Constitution. It is take back time, and we need to get damn serious.


43 posted on 07/29/2013 5:44:01 AM PDT by Jay Redhawk (Obama's mommy was a commie.)
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To: Jay Redhawk

That would be “dog food.” Alpo is not bad if you are in bind, but stay away from Ol’Roy.


44 posted on 07/29/2013 5:48:16 AM PDT by Jay Redhawk (Obama's mommy was a commie.)
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To: RadiationRomeo

That’s right. The article says “at some point in their life”. I’m quite wealthy these days but a long time ago I was extremely poor, that was my college years. I even went hungry once in a while but you wouldn’t think it to see me now! Lot’s of us have been poor at some point but we work hard and overcome.


I think that’s the exact fallacy. Once I was in Louisiana with $20 cash to my name hoping to find work in the oil fields (yeah I know they’re mostly south of there but that’s not the point). Point was I went a week eating on something like $2 a day. So at that one point in my life I was at the poverty level. Doesn’t reflect the other 99% of my life. Yet I’d probably make the cut off for the 80%.

If someone wants to make the claim that there is more financial distress hidden amongst the shopping malls, the walmarts and the strip malls then we generally think there is - then sure - I’m in agreement.

But anyone with eyes can see that 80% isn’t even coming close to the number that are in trouble - I don’t know what that number is but it’s not 80%.


45 posted on 07/29/2013 5:48:50 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: RKBA Democrat
faster rates of out-of-wedlock births among whites

80% of poor households are headed by a woman who had her first baby in her teens and is a HS drop out. What's the solution? Adoption and automatic birth control.

Why on earth would we let a dumb teen keep her baby and get welfare for it? No GED, no welfare, but we'll let you adopt and place $5000 in a fund for your use once you get your GED and turn 18, of course you have to take birth control, the 5 year norplant or IUD.

46 posted on 07/29/2013 5:49:52 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: redgolum

I recently travelled to rural MO, and I was completely appalled. There are entire counties where the vast majority of people are on the dole and live in poverty. The poverty is not simply economic, though that is bad; the real poverty is spiritual and cultural. Welfare has turned all the people into government wards.

The largest buildings in the towns were courthouses and jails where a significant percentage the local population is run through in turnstile fashion: ignorant people being railroaded on petty charges to return revenue to the counties—and the majority of them were white.

I drove for hours trying to find a hotel and ran across an old AF base. I pulled turned in, thinking that I could stay at billeting, but the place was deserted. It must have been BRAC’ed in the 80-90s, and the entire place was literally falling apart. There were also a large number of commercial aircraft parked on the decaying tarmac.

I have travelled in some “interesting” places over my life, but I rarely felt the lack of a sidearm more acutely than when I took a wrong turn trying to find a sandwich shop—last time I travel without my pistol. I thought I was caught up in a twilight zone episode or lost somewhere in the third world. It was completely sickening!


47 posted on 07/29/2013 5:51:35 AM PDT by antidisestablishment (Mahound delenda est)
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To: Gaffer
I’m at Walmart nearly every day for something or another and rare are the times when I don’t see some young overweight baby mama with her fricking EBT card buying up all the soft drinks, chips and Ho-Hos in sight.

I was at our local Walmart the other day, waiting in the lot for someone. Twenty minutes or so. Many people went in and out. At least half were grossly overweight. I don't mean hefty, chunky, stout...I mean whales. And since I also shop there frequently I can vouch for the popularity of EBT and WIC benefits.

And by the way, WIC program still uses paper checks of some sort, and these checks have specific items for which they are vouchers. Specific quantities and weights for the items. Rarely do I get behind a WIC purchase at which the purchaser hasn't made an error in selection. These people can't read/comprehend well at all. Pardon the rant.

48 posted on 07/29/2013 6:05:53 AM PDT by HomeAtLast
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To: RKBA Democrat

We’re all Detroiters now...


49 posted on 07/29/2013 6:07:27 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrat dream: An America for everyone but Americans... freeper molson209)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Wait until the dollar loses reserve status, we’ll all be wheeling barrels of dollars around looking for something of value to buy with them.


50 posted on 07/29/2013 6:10:10 AM PDT by IamConservative (The soul of my lifes journey is Liberty!)
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To: HomeAtLast
And by the way, WIC program still uses paper checks of some sort, and these checks have specific items for which they are vouchers. Specific quantities and weights for the items. Rarely do I get behind a WIC purchase at which the purchaser hasn't made an error in selection. These people can't read/comprehend well at all. Pardon the rant.

I've been behind WICs-ers a lot. They give this certificate (many, many illegals also) to the cashier and she rings up the bread, milk cheese, cereal, etc. ALWAYs there is some dispute re: what you say. Last one I was behind argued for 15 minutes and then relented, and then pulled out a $20 for a bottle of nice wine she'd saved for last EBT/WICs wouldn't over it. I paid for her other food so she could by an effing bottle of wine! I was so mad I blared at the cashier when she asked me "how are you?" I said "after that just now, what do you think?"

51 posted on 07/29/2013 6:10:24 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: RKBA Democrat

You see, what whitey has got to understand is that he’s “Old School.” Hard work doesn’t get you ahead in America any more. Whitey’s got to step aside and give the Trayvons of the world what is rightfully theirs.

Whitey has to bust his ass so he can pay his taxes so that Trayvon’s baby-momma can get her EBT card, her Obamaphone and everything else she deserves. You don’t like tat? Well then you’re racist. They’re going to send the FBI after you!


52 posted on 07/29/2013 6:14:52 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Democrats: Robbing Peter to buy Paul's vote.)
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To: Gaffer
There will be little the GOP/rat complex can do to defeat a state initiated Article V amendment convention.
53 posted on 07/29/2013 6:35:51 AM PDT by Jacquerie (To restore the 10th Amendment, repeal the 17th.)
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To: olezip
"Claims like this become believable when they start to hit close to home. My nephew just learned that the plant where he has been working for the past 18 years, is being shut down. There are absolutely NO jobs around that area...

Yep. A good part of the country is mired in a 1930s style depression, and what's happening to the people who live there is invisible to the people who live in more urban areas, and especially to the elites who have walled themselves off from having to deal with anyone but people like themselves.

It didn't start with Obama, and it won't end if we elect a Republican president, no matter how "conservative", it's an ongoing, structural problem, and it only gets worse as the most capable members of such communities leave for somewhere else, where they hope to have a better chance of making a living.

We hate the idea of "giving them a government job" to do something at least marginally useful, even if it's just patching holes in the roads with material that will wash out with the next heavy rain, and instead hope that we can buy their passivity with "supplemental nutrition programs" and "disability payments", and hope that they don't vote, or at least that if they do vote, there's some way to get them to vote on the basis of something other than trying to increase the amount of dole they receive.

Everyday, look around the place where I live, and I see plenty of things that need to be done, a lot of which can be done with unskilled or semiskilled labor - infrastructure falling apart, obvious improvements that need to be made.

And the conclusion I've reached is that I'd rather start a WPA for the unemployable, and provide full-time day care for their children to get them into an environment where some discipline is enforced and learning is valued, than to let them create a home environment which trains up up the next generation of ignorance and hopelessness while heading toward 400 pounds on starch and sugar at my expense.

IMO, tt would probably cost twice as much in the short run as the current arrangements, and about half as much in the long run.

54 posted on 07/29/2013 6:43:51 AM PDT by M. Dodge Thomas (million)
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To: antidisestablishment

I honestly don’t think most people realize what has happened in the last ten years. This isn’t just Detroit, it is all over.

We are heading into the darkness, and most don’t know it. Even on a board like this.


55 posted on 07/29/2013 6:49:54 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum

As in the days of Noah...

The banality of evil is astounding.


56 posted on 07/29/2013 6:57:35 AM PDT by antidisestablishment (Mahound delenda est)
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To: Ronin

Obama doesn’t care... he’ll just ask Sebilius to change the formula to $10,000 (poverty line) for a family of four. See.... no more poverty.


57 posted on 07/29/2013 7:00:57 AM PDT by Mashood
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To: Fai Mao
They have too much to eat.

They fudge the food numbers for their sub story 'for the children' campaigns by labeling people as 'food insecure. It does not matter if a kid is obese, if he spends time between the house holds of several extended family members, or does not know for CERTAIN where every meal is coming from (except the free ones at school) then that kid must be 'food insecure'. It does not matter if the kid is a butterball, clearly they are in danger of staving to death. /sar
58 posted on 07/29/2013 9:25:15 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: Jacquerie

“We have the legitimate, constitutional power to turn things around without violence. “

Absolutely. See my tagline. GOTS = Get Out of The System. Start thinking Gandhi.


59 posted on 07/29/2013 12:25:54 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (GOTS: Food, water, guns, ammo, useful skills, friends, cash, and precious metals.)
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To: olezip

“How will the Democrats they continue to elect help them now?”

Promise them more welfare and owebamaphones. Problem is, the ability to pay for that by increasing the national debt is nearing it’s end.


60 posted on 07/29/2013 12:28:52 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (GOTS: Food, water, guns, ammo, useful skills, friends, cash, and precious metals.)
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