Posted on 07/29/2013 5:33:38 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
Pope Francis reached out to gays on Monday, saying he wouldn't judge priests for their sexual orientation in a remarkably open and wide-ranging news conference as he returned from his first foreign trip...
"If someone is gay and he searches for the Lord and has good will, who am I to judge?" Francis asked.
His predecessor, Pope Benedict XVI, signed a document in 2005 that said men with deep-rooted homosexual tendencies should not be priests. Francis was much more conciliatory, saying gay clergymen should be forgiven and their sins forgotten.
Francis' remarks came Monday during a plane journey back to the Vatican from his first foreign trip in Brazil.
He was funny and candid during a news conference that lasted almost an hour and a half. He didn't dodge a single question, even thanking the journalist who raised allegations reported by an Italian newsmagazine that one of his trusted monsignors was involved in a scandalous gay tryst.
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NEVER trust the liberal media. They hear what they want to hear and report only what they want to report.
This is from a Lutheran perspective but it gives a pretty accurate depiction of how the liberal media thinks about conservative religions and the split between Rome and Protestantism-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87vo2jkmJUg
The harlot that rides the beast...
What other aberrant behavior is "not for us to judge"?
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? This reads like something from a Roman Catholic version of the Onion. Yes I am an evangelical, yes I disagree with Roman Catholic teachings on some things, but yes I affirm they have at least been nominal believers, and yes I am personally grieved as a Christian if Francis really said something like this. Now I would not say that it’s impossible for such clergy to get their relationship right with Jesus Christ and be saved, for me to say that would be to sell the gospel short, but they are going to have to jettison their “gayness” in the process... it’s basic bible. And they shouldn’t be ministers until they get this problem under significant Holy Spirit control. Did I wake up in Bizarro World this morning???
Man, I think this is going to get a huge push back.
We can never judge the destination of a person’s soul, we can always judge their actions. Most often, it is better to tend to the log in our own eye.
With all due respect, we should not be using the Satanists' word of choice for homosexual. It just tends to make us seem to legitimize it.
HOMOSEXUAL, because there's nothing GAY about it.
Of course we shouldn’t judge others. That doesn’t mean we should endorse their behavior or allow them into positions of authority over others.
****I’m not Catholic but as I understand this unless the Pope changed the position of what the RCC teaches on celibacy and natural marriage, he still opposes homosexual(and all other non-marital) sexual relations.***
Consider it a Catholic Executive Order.
If this is true color me unsurprised. This is what the Catholics have stood for for a very long time and now he’s out of the closet.
It sounds like one remark from a long interview taken out of context and juxtaposed against a previous statement that homosexuals should not be priests that the Pope had not refuted.
The MSM is fixated on homosexuality and promoting homosexual activity particularly among young people.
That being said we should all be wary of the homosexual network among Catholic priests and pray they are removed from the church as soon as possible.
Well that’s not quite as bad, but really I wish such a prominent Christian personage as the Roman Catholic pope would not mince delicate words. If you are saved you will jettison this as well as all other sin on the way to glory, because Jesus Christ will have taken full control in your soul. Is the human-philosophy side of the Roman Catholic worship system about to come back to bite them? Didn’t they themselves have prophecies that Francis would be the final pope? Is this church about to split with half going a kind of fundamentalist Protestant and the other half going gay looey?
The Homosexual Agenda (TM) will still be angry with him, since he appeared to imply that homosexuality is a sin.
Said something like what? The headline?
Read the article and ask the question "What is not mentioned"? How about the definition of the word "judge" for starters?
The media messaging of "not judge" tries to float the idea that there must be some uncertainty, since the Pope chose not to condemn.
Merely a cheap trick, but it made us look, didn't it?
If someone has the pertinent passage from Francis’ comments and can show it, it would probably be very helpful in sussing out where this is going. Yes, to be the MSM means to distort, but also there is a side of the Roman Catholic system I can’t trust, and they simply don’t currently seem to be showing the gospel victory power that, say, Southern Baptists (just one example) do and the homo lobby has been very insidious. Someone who hasn’t achieved significant gospel conquest over the demonic hatred embodied in a buggery centered practice (sorry to be so explicit) ought not to be a pastor yet.
“How can a man that has taken a vow of chastity even HAVE a sexual orientation?”
That’s kind of silly don’t you think? Did you think that one through?
I for one, knew well before I first had sex that I was attracted to girls. Probably by the age of eight or nine...
On the one hand that is how the Church has traditionally approached this (so long as you agree to remain celibate, why judge the orientation?)
On the other hand hundreds of millions in jury awards would seem to have taught us that this is a BAD IDEA!
Are you being disingenuous? You know very well... not quite as bad as some are making it out to be.
This might actually be a good sign, anyhow. Francis might be indicating that he does not want to stand in the way of gospel power, maybe he recognizes that too many human ipse dixits have compromised it and does not want to add to that.
Eh, end times. The Catholic Church will not ever be obsessed with this as the Protestants are
We live we follow God’s will the best we can or like a saint and we die. The Church talks about death non stop but it will never care about how many people go at oncd we are all going to face judgment alone whether the world comes with us or not
So no the Pope is not talking about the end times
Every Freeper especially the many Catholic haters will do well to realize duh that the press hates the Church more than they do Conservatives
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