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Um, I am loathe to trust the media....so can someone find out what the Pope REALLY meant?
1 posted on 07/29/2013 5:33:39 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Sounds to me like Francis has become rather laissez-faire about homo priests.


2 posted on 07/29/2013 5:36:30 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If you don't care about Antonio Santiago, sure as hell don't whine about Trayvon Martin.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Sounds like he is attending to the world philosophy, if you can’t beat them, join them. Will go a long way to increasing the coffers.

I have high expectations of worldly wrath for such a comment.


5 posted on 07/29/2013 5:42:59 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I’m not Catholic but as I understand this unless the Pope changed the position of what the RCC teaches on celibacy and natural marriage, he still opposes homosexual(and all other non-marital) sexual relations.


6 posted on 07/29/2013 5:44:46 AM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: SoFloFreeper

I’ll read later when tome allows

It does save time to know what the Church says about hosexuality

It says that homosexuals are neither born that way or not it doesn’t matter. That they should not act on it

He is saying that when we meet God is when we send ourselves to wherever we’re going for eternity, that the Pope doesn’t do that

It means there is no room in the priesthood for practicing homosexuals It means that non practicing homosexuals should not be around a lot of men like in the priesthood

But not one journalist nor CINO. Could possibly take one God given hour to read it and find out

Also that the emy never sleeps and one should take the hour to get informed


7 posted on 07/29/2013 5:45:04 AM PDT by stanne
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it wouldn’t mean they could continue with their perverted practices, those would have to cease


8 posted on 07/29/2013 5:46:09 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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"Um, I am loathe to trust the media....so can someone find out what the Pope REALLY meant?"

That's wise.

Here's another story that may be related and "grow legs" as the Pope returns to Rome:

Report: Pope Francis Appointee Has History of Gay Affairs (Ricca)
Breitbart ^ | 21 Jul 2013, 5:32 PM PDT | Kate O'Hare
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3045762/posts

9 posted on 07/29/2013 5:46:51 AM PDT by haffast (Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. -Abe Lincoln)
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To: SoFloFreeper

If the quote they have is accurate, he is correct. It is not for us to judge.


11 posted on 07/29/2013 5:47:19 AM PDT by Clintons Are White Trash (If stupid ever reaches $150 a barrel then I want the drilling rights to Maxine Water's head.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Media spin.

The Left does not understand that perfect love also chastises; and that being unfit for a job is not a condemnation to hell.

So, “men with deep-rooted homosexual tendencies should not be priests” and “gay clergymen should be forgiven and their sins forgotten” are not two contradictory statements.


13 posted on 07/29/2013 5:48:44 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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My reading indicates 3 items, none of which contradicts Church teachings.

1. A person can be attracted to someone of the same sex, but is earnestly seeking God, trying to do His will. That person, like everyone else, is a sinner, and deserves mercy and forgiveness. This gay person is NOT likely to be at the Pride parades.

2. To the press, don’t spread rumors.

3. Everybody is a sinner. In matters of sin, ask for forgiveness, believe in God’s mercy, and change your ways.

None of this is new. Its just that when the word “gay” is in the discussion, people lose the listening/reading comprehension.


14 posted on 07/29/2013 5:50:17 AM PDT by SpirituTuo
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How can a man that has taken a vow of chastity even HAVE a sexual orientation?

How does someone even find OUT what a priest's sexual orientation IS ?

Uhhh .. s'cuse me father .. d'ya like girls .. or boys?

15 posted on 07/29/2013 5:51:20 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: SoFloFreeper; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...
Um, I am loathe to trust the media....so can someone find out what the Pope REALLY meant?

Pope Francis reached out to gays on Monday, saying he wouldn't judge priests for their sexual orientation in a remarkably open and wide-ranging news conference as he returned from his first foreign trip...

"If someone is gay and he searches for the Lord and has good will, who am I to judge?" Francis asked.

What is with it with Catholics that are always saying things that don't mean what is said but mean what the Church says it means? He said what he said.

Maybe the Catholic hierarchy needs lessons in how to communicate more clearly so they do not continually say things that need to be *interpreted* to be taken *correctly* and lay Catholics do not have to waste so much time in damage control trying to reconcile their comments and explain them away to non-Catholics, who can clearly understand what was plainly said.

He said what he said and it's in direct violation of the Scripture that Catholics claim the church wrote and has the only authority to interpret.

1 Corinthains 5:1-13 It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that is not tolerated even among pagans, for a man has his father's wife. And you are arrogant! Ought you not rather to mourn? Let him who has done this be removed from among you.

For though absent in body, I am present in spirit; and as if present, I have already pronounced judgment on the one who did such a thing. When you are assembled in the name of the Lord Jesus and my spirit is present, with the power of our Lord Jesus, you are to deliver this man to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord.

Your boasting is not good. Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump? Cleanse out the old leaven that you may be a new lump, as you really are unleavened. For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed. Let us therefore celebrate the festival, not with the old leaven, the leaven of malice and evil, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people—not at all meaning the sexually immoral of this world, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler—not even to eat with such a one. For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you areto judge? God judges those outside. “Purge the evil person from among you.”

17 posted on 07/29/2013 5:56:20 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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"If someone is gay and he searches for the Lord and has good will, who am I to judge?" Francis asked.

He will put away the sin when he finds the Lord. Or at least will try to do so.

18 posted on 07/29/2013 5:56:21 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

NEVER trust the liberal media. They hear what they want to hear and report only what they want to report.

This is from a Lutheran perspective but it gives a pretty accurate depiction of how the liberal media thinks about conservative religions and the split between Rome and Protestantism-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87vo2jkmJUg


21 posted on 07/29/2013 5:57:29 AM PDT by ReformationFan
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The harlot that rides the beast...


22 posted on 07/29/2013 5:57:38 AM PDT by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? This reads like something from a Roman Catholic version of the Onion. Yes I am an evangelical, yes I disagree with Roman Catholic teachings on some things, but yes I affirm they have at least been nominal believers, and yes I am personally grieved as a Christian if Francis really said something like this. Now I would not say that it’s impossible for such clergy to get their relationship right with Jesus Christ and be saved, for me to say that would be to sell the gospel short, but they are going to have to jettison their “gayness” in the process... it’s basic bible. And they shouldn’t be ministers until they get this problem under significant Holy Spirit control. Did I wake up in Bizarro World this morning???


24 posted on 07/29/2013 5:59:48 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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I am loathe to trust the media...
And well you should.
I channel surfed onto CNN this morning as they were going to a break. Their "teaser" for the upcoming segment was quoting the Pope as saying - "Who am I to judge gays?"
I was quite surprised until I eventually found out that the Pope actually said - "If someone is gay and he searches for the Lord and has good will, who am I to judge?"
Big difference!
26 posted on 07/29/2013 6:01:34 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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Of course we shouldn’t judge others. That doesn’t mean we should endorse their behavior or allow them into positions of authority over others.


29 posted on 07/29/2013 6:05:27 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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It sounds like one remark from a long interview taken out of context and juxtaposed against a previous statement that homosexuals should not be priests that the Pope had not refuted.

The MSM is fixated on homosexuality and promoting homosexual activity particularly among young people.

That being said we should all be wary of the homosexual network among Catholic priests and pray they are removed from the church as soon as possible.


31 posted on 07/29/2013 6:06:37 AM PDT by detective
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Francis was much more conciliatory, saying gay clergymen should be forgiven and their sins forgotten.

The Homosexual Agenda (TM) will still be angry with him, since he appeared to imply that homosexuality is a sin.

33 posted on 07/29/2013 6:13:17 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (I don't always vote, but when I do, I SURE AS HELL DON'T VOTE DEMOCRAT!)
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The non-Catholic reader gets the impression we have a pro-homosexual socialist for pope.


44 posted on 07/29/2013 6:25:00 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (The Tipline for Zimmerman's Inquisition is: Sanford.florida@usdoj.gov ... Use it.)
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