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Trayvonís mom: Stand Your Ground helped Zimmerman get away with murder
The Miami Herald ^ | July 29, 2013 | Marc A. Caputo

Posted on 07/29/2013 10:22:10 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The mother of Trayvon Martin said Monday that she believed Florida’s Stand Your Ground law played a role in her son’s shooting death, but she wasn’t ready to support a boycott of the state for not changing the self-defense law.

“The thing about this law is I just think it assisted the person who killed my son to get away with murder,” Sybrina Fulton, the mother of the 17-year-old from Miami Gardens, said at a National Bar Association event in Miami Beach.

“I think we have to change these laws so people don’t get away with murder,” she said, adding that her son was unarmed and peacefully walking back to his dad’s place when he was initially pursued by George Zimmerman.

Zimmerman successfully pleaded self defense in the killing. A jury acquitted him on July 13 in Sanford.

But the exact role of Stand Your Ground in the case isn’t clear. Only two jurors have spoken up to CNN and ABC, and just one referenced the law, which allows a person to more easily use deadly force without having to first retreat in a confrontation.

Zimmerman’s legal team didn’t focus on mounting a Stand Your Ground defense, however, saying that a common self-defense justification was all the 29-year-old man needed because he reasonably feared that Trayvon, who jumped him, was going to gravely injure him during a fistfight.

The National Bar Association, echoing calls from the Dream Defenders protestors occupying a part of Gov. Rick Scott’s office in the state Capitol, has called on Florida lawmakers to repeal or amend the law....

(Excerpt) Read more at miamiherald.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: banglist; boycott; nba; selfdefense; standyourground; sybrinafulton; trayvon; zimmerman
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Not to be confused with the American Bar Association. Founded in 1925, the National Bar Association (NBA) is the nation's oldest and largest association of African American lawyers and judges. Their website is a Trayvon-fest. Take a look: http://www.nationalbar.org/
1 posted on 07/29/2013 10:22:10 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Here comes “Affirmative Justice.”


2 posted on 07/29/2013 10:25:04 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Does the phrase “good riddance to bad rubbish” mean anything to her?


3 posted on 07/29/2013 10:25:38 AM PDT by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: SkyPilot

Trayvon’s “mom” didn’t even raise him. She is a leach and a creep. STFU, you racist hag.


4 posted on 07/29/2013 10:26:03 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The mother of Trayvon Martin said Monday that she believed Florida’s Stand Your Ground law played a role in her son’s shooting death, but she wasn’t ready to support a boycott of the state for not changing the self-defense law.

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2 Things. 3 things really.

1. SYG was not an issue in this trial. It was not argued by either side. It had no meaning or impact on the trial or the outcome.

2. Blacks are the majority of Florida citizens who benefit from SYG laws.

3. Sabrina Fulton is an idiot.


5 posted on 07/29/2013 10:27:09 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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Trayvon’s mom: Stand Your Ground helped Zimmerman get away with murder

Liberals ARE dumber than a box of rocks, aren't they. They can't even argue on the proper issue, can they?

6 posted on 07/29/2013 10:27:33 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: hal ogen

Odd that neither side brought it up during the trial. So SYG has nothing to do with it. Thank the “just-us” bros for starting that line of crap.


7 posted on 07/29/2013 10:27:57 AM PDT by rktman (Inergalactic background checks? King hussein you're first up.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

FU

First, SYG played no role in this trial.

Secondly, the alternative would be to just let your gangsta son smash in someone’s skull. No thanks.


8 posted on 07/29/2013 10:28:50 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Someone should contact all of the people that the law has saved. I’d be the first to volunteer if I defended myself from a thug.


9 posted on 07/29/2013 10:29:57 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Rick Scott’s office in the state Capitol, has called on Florida lawmakers to repeal ... the law....

So, if you intend to CC, besides your weapon, you need to always have a shovel as well, so that if you are pinned to the grassy area, you can dig a hole to retreat from your attacker. The only thing unclear here is, if the shovel needs to be concealed as well, or if it is okay to open-carry the retreating-tool shovel...

10 posted on 07/29/2013 10:32:44 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’d prefer to think of Stand Your Ground as preventing her feral-thug-of-a-son from getting away with murder.


11 posted on 07/29/2013 10:33:20 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (If govmt is stockpiling guns, ammo, food, & meds, don't you think it's a good idea to do the same?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The mother of Trayvon Martin said Monday that she believed Florida’s Stand Your Ground law played a role in her son’s shooting death, but she wasn’t ready to support a boycott of the state for not changing the self-defense law.

Aside from the fact that neither side even mentioned SYG during the Zimmerman trial, the thing that played the most central role in Trayvon Martin's death was his ill-considered decision to assault Zimmerman in a felonious manner, with the apparent intent to cause grievous bodily injury or death.

I wonder why she failed to mention this. (/sarc)
12 posted on 07/29/2013 10:33:53 AM PDT by Milton Miteybad (I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I do not believe that most blacks care very much that Trayvon Martin died. After all, they seem to ignore more black on black violent deaths every day. I think what blacks care about is that some “white” guy had the temerity and the means to defend himself from a beat down.

That is really what this is about, cow white people so that the black hoodlums can rob, steal and kill more of them with impunity. The Obama administration panders to this approach, because it buys black votes, just like Obama phones.

13 posted on 07/29/2013 10:35:03 AM PDT by LOC1 (Let's pick the best, not settle for a compromise.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Liberal logic - a man shooting his lawfully acquired and concealed weapon against an individual engaged in a brutal and racist assault against this “creepy ass cracker” and being acquitted on the basis of self-defense is the fault of a statute that wasn’t even in play in the trial.


14 posted on 07/29/2013 10:35:53 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: hal ogen

Well, I guess “Mommas don’t raise your babies to be thugs” doesn’t apply to her.


15 posted on 07/29/2013 10:36:13 AM PDT by TheDon (Inside Every Liberal is a Totalitarian Screaming to Get Out.)
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To: Milton Miteybad

Re. she wasn’t ready to support a boycott of the state for not changing the self-defense law.

Translation: she is walking back the boycott talk because they now know it would be a dismal failure, embarrassingly so.

Does anyone believe that if they thought they had the support they would not do this?


16 posted on 07/29/2013 10:36:14 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: SkyPilot

Here comes “Affirmative Justice.”


Empathy - use your hearts and open your wallets.


17 posted on 07/29/2013 10:36:34 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: Milton Miteybad

Re. she wasn’t ready to support a boycott of the state for not changing the self-defense law.

Translation: she is walking back the boycott talk because they now know it would be a dismal failure, embarrassingly so.

Does anyone believe that if they thought they had the support they would not do this?


18 posted on 07/29/2013 10:36:35 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Turbo Pig

I think a lot of them know it. This is a tactic of the left, especially the black left. If whites support it, or are perceived to support it (whatever it may be), they are reflexively against it. Their prevailing idea seems to be if whites support it, they’d rather cock a snook at us even when it hurts themselves. So many things they support hurt them more than us, and they still support them because we don’t.


19 posted on 07/29/2013 10:37:19 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The FAIL is strong with this mother. /star wars /shaft


20 posted on 07/29/2013 10:38:04 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

:: her son was unarmed and peacefully walking back to his dad’s place ::

The beat goes on!

Hey, Sybryna, TraydMark was walking back to the apartment that his father’s MISTRESS had leased.

And, even tho TraydMark had been “sent off” to stay with his father because he had been SUSPENDED FROM SCHOOL FOR MARIJUANA POSSESSION, his father (and MISTRESS) was not home at the time and DID NOT RETURN until hours after TrayMark had been killed.

His father’s FIRST IMPULSE WAS TO CALL THE JUVENILE DETENTION court.

Facts be old school.


21 posted on 07/29/2013 10:38:28 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just like we’ve had “Megan’s Law” and “Amber Alert” expect “Trayvon’s Law” coming soon to a location near you. That’s where this is going.


22 posted on 07/29/2013 10:38:42 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just shows you how much of a dumba$$ she is. The law never even entered into the court case. It was not mentioned even once during the trial.


23 posted on 07/29/2013 10:40:08 AM PDT by TheRhinelander
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To: MarineBrat

These libturds don’t have the guts to launch a civil lawsuit against Zimmerman so they engage in this farcical narrative in the hopes of generating some payola from the event.


24 posted on 07/29/2013 10:40:28 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Of course, Stand Your Ground wasn’t a part of the defense’s argument that Zimmerman was innocent, and Zimmerman was on his back being beaten when he fired.


25 posted on 07/29/2013 10:41:35 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Obama's policy towards Morsi and the Moslem Brotherhood came from his heart.)
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To: hal ogen

As was said on another thread on this subject...

Cindy Sheehan - Now available in black.


26 posted on 07/29/2013 10:43:24 AM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (The average American voter is an idiot. Which is how the Dems want it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Wrong,wrong,WRONG! Self defense was why GZ was found not guilty.
27 posted on 07/29/2013 10:44:06 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama Had A City It Would Look Like Detroit.)
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To: LOC1
That is really what this is about, cow white people so that the black hoodlums can rob, steal and kill more of them with impunity.
Bingo, we have a winner.
It'll be be just like the "N word" - only "special people" can say it.
28 posted on 07/29/2013 10:47:06 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am beginning to really despise this woman. Not only did she pass him around like an unwanted puppy, contributing to the creature he became, but if this is her personality, he was probably doomed to aggression by pure heredity.


29 posted on 07/29/2013 10:48:02 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady (The only uniform Obama respects is the hoodie.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

He was peacefully walking back to his dad’s until his girlfriend convinced him that Zimmerman was a Gay Rapist who needed a “Whoop-azz”.


30 posted on 07/29/2013 10:49:03 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Ms. Fulton must have left the courtroom when the facts were presented.
31 posted on 07/29/2013 10:49:48 AM PDT by JPG (Obama Does Egypt.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Ms. Fulton must have left the courtroom when the facts were presented.
32 posted on 07/29/2013 10:49:48 AM PDT by JPG (Obama Does Egypt.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I still don’t see how she and others can go around saying that Z “got away with murder” or “Z is a murderer.” Isn’t that slander when applied to someone who was found not guilty? To me, it is different from saying, “I disagree with the verdict” or “I think he is guilty.” To me, these statements cross a line. Moreover, by inflaming passions, they are an incitement to violence and threaten Z’s physical safety.


33 posted on 07/29/2013 10:50:26 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Gay State Conservative

She got away with perjury because there is no scientific way to prove that the voice belonged to Zimmerman. But he said right away to the police that he was calling for help and eight witnesses backed him up. The father didn’t identify his son when he heard him. This woman abandoned her son at age 3 and probably never heard him scream ever. She was out to frame an innocent man.


34 posted on 07/29/2013 10:50:53 AM PDT by idov
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Stand your ground was a law that preveted this case from becoming a travesty in civil and criminal courts.

stand your ground protects us from the scum like attorney crump.

stand yoru ground protects us from the ilk of Mz. i-just-rediscovered-I-was-mother-to-a-thug-turned-angel.


35 posted on 07/29/2013 10:53:04 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is not going to stop until EVERY white cracka’ gets a beat down “for Trayvon” (and then another one)


36 posted on 07/29/2013 10:53:48 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

stand your ground is what is preventing Attorney Crump from doing a double jeopardy bypass in civil court.


37 posted on 07/29/2013 10:54:07 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: SkyPilot
Here comes “Affirmative Justice.”

I believe that's also known as "social justice." It's an elaborate, long-winded rationale for stealing from the productive, giving most of the stolen money to the feral government, and handing whatever's left over to the looter class.

Marxists believe if they retell a stupid lie long enough, it will magically metamorphose into the truth.

38 posted on 07/29/2013 10:54:51 AM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Does anyone have a link to that post from sunday about the white teacher in a black school?

I would love to get some “black leaders” opinions on that


39 posted on 07/29/2013 10:54:57 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: SkyPilot

Not to mention that GZ was not standing at the time, he was on his back on the ground getting a whip ass beat down.


40 posted on 07/29/2013 10:56:11 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Did she opine about people comitting crimes in her dead son’s name?


41 posted on 07/29/2013 10:58:42 AM PDT by clintonh8r (white Caucasian)
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"The mother of Trayvon Martin said Monday that she believed Florida’s Stand Your Ground law played a role in her son’s shooting death..."

Frankly beyotch, I think the fact that your son not only threw the first punch, but knocked Zimmerman to the ground, straddled him, and beat his head into the pavement had a bit more to do with your son's death than any law did.

42 posted on 07/29/2013 10:59:05 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Laws like Castle Doctrine, SYG, etc., were passed to a great extent in response to predatory lawsuits by attorneys of unsuccessful criminals (i.e., the ones who get shot by their intended victims). The “NBA” wants to abolish this impediment to looting the victims.


43 posted on 07/29/2013 11:00:07 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: mass55th

plus the fact he brought his fists to a gunfight.


44 posted on 07/29/2013 11:00:32 AM PDT by wordsofearnest (Proper aim of giving is to put the recipient in a state where he no longer needs it. C.S. Lewis)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A setup for Nancy Pelosi Congressional Circus tomorrow ?


45 posted on 07/29/2013 11:00:33 AM PDT by molson209
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To: OB1kNOb
TM’s dad was a member of the Crips.

TM bragged about being in a gang too.

Gang bangers don't like Stand Your Ground laws that enable self defense against gang bangers and want the laws repealed.

Isn't that special

46 posted on 07/29/2013 11:02:55 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: longtermmemmory
Stand your ground is what is preventing Attorney Crump from doing a double jeopardy bypass in civil court.

Although I'm not a lawyer what you say has the ring of plausibility to it.Of course a civil suit brought against GZ wouldn't,in the strictest definition of the term,represent "double jeopardy" but that's a minor point.

47 posted on 07/29/2013 11:03:12 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama Had A City It Would Look Like Detroit.)
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To: MarineBrat

Is this so-called mother still out on extended leave from her job? It’s been over a year hasn’t it? Most government agencies require you to return to work within a year of any accident, illness, etc., or you are released from service. She got special privileges not offered to other civil servants, which is definitely discrimination.


48 posted on 07/29/2013 11:03:13 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This case had nothing to do with stand your ground. It had everything to do with self defense


49 posted on 07/29/2013 11:06:31 AM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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50 posted on 07/29/2013 11:07:23 AM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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