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Drive to defund ObamaCare divides Republicans
FOX News ^ | July 29, 2013

Posted on 07/29/2013 12:20:53 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

An aggressive push by Tea Party lawmakers to defund ObamaCare is increasingly pitting Republicans against Republicans, as some party leaders and conservative pundits claim the goal is not achievable this year -- and could irresponsibly risk a government shutdown.

Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, and his allies in the Senate are trying to round up support for a pledge to oppose any budget bill that funds the health care law. They're emboldened by the administration's recent decision to delay a key part of the law, arguing the move shows it's not ready for prime time.

"Businesses don't like it. Individuals hate it. Union leaders say it will be bad for workers," Lee said on "Fox News Sunday." "The law is certainly not ready to implement, and we shouldn't fund it."

But the demand, if backed by enough lawmakers, could create an impasse in Washington -- risking the possibility that Congress will miss its Sept. 30 deadline for passing a budget and shutting down the government.

A number of GOP lawmakers have come out against the defund-ObamaCare campaign, claiming that while they'd like nothing more than to strip the law of its funding, the party does not have the numbers to deliver.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; deathpanels; obamacare; rinos; romneyagenda; romneycare; romneycare4all; romneycare4ever; teaparty; zerocare
The Tea Party conservatives have the right ideas, but as usual, the RINOs are doing their best to foul it up.
1 posted on 07/29/2013 12:20:53 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

divides Republicans should read exposes RINOs.


2 posted on 07/29/2013 12:21:37 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Jim Robinson

Why the HELL wouldn’t EVERY Republican vote to defund this CRAP???

Makes no sense to me.


3 posted on 07/29/2013 12:22:58 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Jim Robinson

De-funding Obamacare is what the Republicans ran on in 2010 and 2012.

Now they’re having second thought?


4 posted on 07/29/2013 12:23:08 PM PDT by Arm_Bears (Refuse; Resist; Rebel; Revolt!)
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To: Arm_Bears

Not “thought” BOUGHT.


5 posted on 07/29/2013 12:25:17 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (K I L L T H E B I L L !!)
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To: Jim Robinson
An aggressive push by Tea Party lawmakers to defund ObamaCare is increasingly pitting Republicans against Republicans, as some party leaders and conservative pundits claim the goal is not achievable this year -- and could irresponsibly risk a government shutdown.

Don't worry, RINOs, the Dems won't let the government be shut down for long. Too many of their cronies would have to go without pay and perks for too long.

And if not this year, when? The longer you let Ocare go on, the less likely it will be Congress can defund or repeal it.

6 posted on 07/29/2013 12:26:04 PM PDT by MEGoody (You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Jim Robinson

“A number of GOP lawmakers have come out against the defund-ObamaCare campaign”

Any FReeper could name these quislings from past performance and known Big Government tendencies.

It’s obvious the establishment Republicans are suffering from self-imposed battered wife syndrome—they’re scared to death of even mentioning “gooberment shut-down”, while Dhimms relish it.

And this involves a program that the people hate. So what WOULD the Republicans be willing to fight for? A new spa for the Senate Office Building?


7 posted on 07/29/2013 12:27:45 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Playing prevent defense has always worked so well in the past.

Pray for America to Wake Up


8 posted on 07/29/2013 12:28:21 PM PDT by bray (Coming soon: The Republic of Texas 2022)
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To: MEGoody

The RINO’s who say now isn’t the time will never find the right time. Effectively they are supporters of Obamacare and enablers of the progressive agenda.


9 posted on 07/29/2013 12:28:42 PM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Earlier, I simply thought these Republicans seemed to have weak spines. Now I understand that they are SPINELESS.

Here is the petition to DEFUND Obamacare:

http://www.dontfundobamacare.com

We constituents MUST make a strong effort to get the numbers UP on this.


10 posted on 07/29/2013 12:30:51 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: Jim Robinson
Drive to defund ObamaCare divides Republicans

Further proof that I did the right thing by registering as an Independent.

11 posted on 07/29/2013 12:31:40 PM PDT by South40
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To: Jim Robinson

“........but as usual, the RINOs are doing their best to foul it up.”

And the movement itself to defund Obamacare is so righteous, and a win win all the way for Republicans IF they were Republicans.

SHEESH!!! SHUT DOWN THE DAMNED GOVERNMENT. GO FOR IT!


12 posted on 07/29/2013 12:34:09 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Jim Robinson

This is where the men get separated from the weaklings and cowards. I have no doubt Free Republic will keep careful tabs on who is who, and work to flush the weaklings and cowards down the toilet where they belong. No more RINOs, no more “lesser of two evils”, and no more “holding my nose” in the voting place. I did not vote for Romney, and I will never again vote for a make-believe Republican.

There is a clear line in the sand.

Go, tea party! Go, Free Republic!


13 posted on 07/29/2013 12:35:11 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: SumProVita

Some are spineless, some are progressives. Don’t forget that the progressive movement originated in the Republican Party and between Hoover and Goldwater all of the Republican presidential candidates fit that mold. As Rush Limbaugh has been saying, the Republicans run as conservatives but many, or even most, don’t vote that way.

Fact is that until recently both parties have run to the right of real beliefs of the candidates.


14 posted on 07/29/2013 12:37:24 PM PDT by Piranha (Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have - Saul Alinsky)
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To: Jim Robinson

Rush just dealt with the RINO weaklings’ claims that to defund Obamacare won’t work because the funding is already built into the law.

He read from the Heritage Foundation website an item placed there July 12th. It says that claim is - shocker!- not true.

What is up for grabs in the continuing resolution is ADMINISTRATIVE funding for its implementation. The law entails gigantic administrative costs. Those were funded in the original act to the tune of about 1 BIL. But they have virtually spent out on that.

To continue implementation such as the exchanges and the IRS-involved costs etc they have to receive more funding as time marches on.

[The continuing resolution as proposed by Lee, Cruz et al is to pass a CR that funds everything EXCEPT a single dime to administer Obamacare. This would then cause the Dems to insist on shutting down the government rather than fund everything EXCEPT administering Obamacare.]

According to Heritage.

Via Rush.

I cannot abide these quislings who refuse to stand and fight.

Remember the Alamo!


15 posted on 07/29/2013 12:38:18 PM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear." - Glenn Beck)
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To: rockinqsranch
SHEESH!!! SHUT DOWN THE DAMNED GOVERNMENT. GO FOR IT!

The Republcians can't do that because even though people who get up and go to work every day to support themselves and their families never really notice when the government is "shut down", the massive Democrat party base of moochers would soon find their snouts hitting the dry bottom of the public trough, and Republicans can't let that happen because then they will never get their votes...

Wait.
What?

16 posted on 07/29/2013 12:39:36 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: txrangerette
[The continuing resolution as proposed by Lee, Cruz et al is to pass a CR that funds everything EXCEPT a single dime to administer Obamacare. This would then cause the Dems to insist on shutting down the government rather than fund everything EXCEPT administering Obamacare.]

Let the rats own any shutdown. RINOS be damned.

17 posted on 07/29/2013 12:41:46 PM PDT by RedMDer (When immigrants cannot or will not assimilate, its really just an invasion. Throw them out!)
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To: Jim Robinson
ObamaCARE is Willard Romney's key legislation.

The GOP will NEVER remove ObamaCARE/RomneyCARE.

Why? THEY ARE EXEMPT.




18 posted on 07/29/2013 12:42:32 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Jim Robinson

Obamacare and Immigration Reform are shining a very bright light on the divide between the establishment types and the principled conservatives. We’re seeing who is on our side and who is not. And who to remove and who to keep.


19 posted on 07/29/2013 12:44:37 PM PDT by cotton1706
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Support Free Republic.

Resolved from the House of Representatives (H.R. 3590)
Entitled
"An act to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986
to modify first-time home buyers credit...

THIS IS HOW OBAMA WILL RULE

20 posted on 07/29/2013 12:44:40 PM PDT by RedMDer (When immigrants cannot or will not assimilate, its really just an invasion. Throw them out!)
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To: Lancey Howard

Right on the mark!


21 posted on 07/29/2013 12:44:43 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Piranha

This is PRECISELY why WE the PEOPLE need to make our voices heard on this issue.

I just called both of my senators to let them know that they are misreading the will of their constituents and swallowing Democrat propaganda... if they do not defund Obamacare.

http://www.dontfundobamacare.com

Phone numbers of all of our representatives in Washington DC are on this webpage with the petition promoted by Senator Ted Cruz (a senator who impresses more and more).


22 posted on 07/29/2013 12:46:15 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: Jim Robinson

At this point it is irresponsible to NOT shut down the Government! Corruption is all the way up to the head of the Department of Justice and the whole financial backing apparatus of the Government the IRS is admittedly criminally corrupt.

Time to STOP this garbage NOW! Pull the blank checks, install term limits and start the investigations and prosecutions.


23 posted on 07/29/2013 12:46:22 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Jim Robinson

People, Citizens....sign the Lee/Cruz petition to not fund Obamacare!!! Take about thirty seconds!!! “Dont’FundObamacare”


24 posted on 07/29/2013 12:46:23 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
There's only one thing I have to say, "Sarah Palin please end the Republican Party".

There's just a handful left that we can truly depend on, it's beyond fixable.

25 posted on 07/29/2013 12:51:38 PM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz......Nuff said.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Many of those RINOs who land on the wrong side may as well kiss their political asses goodbye. Sadly many will also get by with it because their idiot constituents will continue to blindly vote for them. The country really needs a clean sweep of all elected and appointed federal positions.


26 posted on 07/29/2013 12:53:35 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Jim Robinson

Time to turn up the heat!


27 posted on 07/29/2013 1:31:42 PM PDT by From The Deer Stand
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To: SoFloFreeper
Why the HELL wouldn’t EVERY Republican vote to defund this CRAP???

Simple. Because they want it, too. They just need to pay enough lip service to their base, to retain 50% +1 of the vote.

28 posted on 07/29/2013 1:34:03 PM PDT by wbill
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To: Jim Robinson

As long as the Senate is held by Democrat and Obama sit in the Oval Office, it’s a suckers game to keep pushing through defunding measures that go nowhere.

40 votes and nothing sees the light of day in the Senate. Dems just turn it on the House and beat them over the head with it.

Better to let the unions now upset over it speak out and Democrats opposed, even though few, to take a stand.

Stop playing into the Democrats hands and giving them the ammo they want to ridicule and paint the Republicans as hateful, mean and uncaring.

Stand there with an “I told you so” attitude.


29 posted on 07/29/2013 1:56:06 PM PDT by DakotaRed (Why not just pass a law requiring criminals to obey the laws?)
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To: Piranha
Don’t forget that the progressive movement originated in the Republican Party and between Hoover and Goldwater all of the Republican presidential candidates fit that mold.

It is actually worse than that. Since Calvin Coolidge declined to run for reelection in 1928, every GOP candidate except three (Goldwater in 1964, Reagan in 1980 and 1984) has been from the Progressive school.

That includes Hoover who actually intervened heavily in the economy during the early years of the downturn. FDR, in fact, campaigned against said intervention and rode the anti-interventionist wagon to the presidency. We all know how that turned out.

Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford and both Bushes were all from the Progressive GOP establishment wing. For that matter, so was ever losing candidate from Hoover to Romney save Goldwater only.

That being said, even the Progressive GOP-e wing understands their power is not unlimited, something the Progressive Democrat wing consistently fails to recognize.

30 posted on 07/29/2013 2:43:26 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: SumProVita

Thx for the link! Done!

Odd that the R’s are seeming as nervous about the base as the Marxist LEFTIES. This sprawling food fight against defunding Obamacare is very telling. Almost encouraging.


31 posted on 07/29/2013 3:29:58 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: DakotaRed

I think Coburn is right-every time there’s been a gubmint “shut down”, dems win.
We have 11 senators...( 5 asked for their name to be removed from Lee’s letter) So how’s that going to work?

Let the Obamacare trainwreck play itself out and the rats wear it around their neck. By 2016 people will see what a failure it is.


32 posted on 07/29/2013 3:36:43 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: Jim Robinson
All funding bills must originate in the House.

If the House refuses to fund Obamacare in any budget it passes, IT WONT BE FUNDED.

If the House refuses to increase the debt ceiling, then it cannot be increased.

Pubs have the House votes to do either/both of the above.

If Rats want to risk a government shutdown over the very unpopular Obamacare, putting THEIR voters out of a few paychecks, then I say shut it down. The LAST thing the Rats would want is to shut down their precious bureaucracy.

If Pubs will not fight the battles when presented to them, then they represent no one & nothing but themselves. Boehner & Cantor lead the retreat & need to go.

33 posted on 07/29/2013 3:38:08 PM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Wobbly on amnesty, wobbly on defunding 0bamafraud: I’m ready to leave the “Big Tent”, and I won’t look back. The next few weeks will be crucial.


34 posted on 07/29/2013 3:50:53 PM PDT by windsorknot (>>>)
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To: txrangerette

I cannot abide these quislings who refuse to stand and fight.

Remember the Alamo!


The beltway GOP won’t even stand let alone fight. Phony conservatives are being exposed on this issue and that is why they are so furious.


35 posted on 07/29/2013 3:56:20 PM PDT by lodi90
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Here is the problem, divides the republicans! These cretans are not on our side and need to be removed!


36 posted on 07/29/2013 4:04:01 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (w)
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To: TurboZamboni

Let the Obamacare trainwreck play itself out and the rats wear it around their neck. By 2016 people will see what a failure it is.


You are advocating the tip toe strategy for the GOP. Minimize conflict with the Dems at all costs. How did that work out in 2012?


37 posted on 07/29/2013 4:08:47 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: lodi90

And why save the rats from their own mess?

Promising what you cannot actually deliver on makes people even more angry .

Republicans playing checkers again.(dems playing chess)


38 posted on 07/29/2013 5:40:01 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: DakotaRed

the best way to defeat a bad law is to enforce it on everyone.


39 posted on 08/08/2013 4:47:23 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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