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Climate study predicts a watery future for New York, Boston and Miami
Guardian ^ | 7/29/13 | Suzanne Goldenberg

Posted on 07/29/2013 1:37:47 PM PDT by Libloather

More than 1,700 American cities and towns – including Boston, New York, and Miami – will have significant populations living below the high-water mark by the end of this century, a new climate change study has found.

Those 1,700 towns are locked into a watery future by greenhouse gas emissions already built up in the atmosphere, the analysis published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences on Monday found. For nearly 80 of those cities, the watery future would come much sooner, within the next decade.

"Even if we could just stop global emissions tomorrow on a dime, Fort Lauderdale, Miami Gardens, Hoboken, New Jersey will be under sea level," said Benjamin Strauss, a researcher at Climate Central, and author of the paper. But dramatic cuts in emissions – much greater than Barack Obama and other world leaders have so far agreed – could save nearly 1,000 of those towns, by averting the sea-level rise, the study fund.

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Have any of these goofball 'scientific' predictions ever come true?
1 posted on 07/29/2013 1:37:47 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Boston is on Landfill. So this will be a correction.


2 posted on 07/29/2013 1:40:07 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Libloather
Oh if it were only so. Now you wonderful cities of sodom might see a giant white wall of ice creeping towards you... behind your backs... heck... even mother nature is racist. Glaciers are white!

LLS

3 posted on 07/29/2013 1:43:49 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Libloather

NO

4 posted on 07/29/2013 1:45:28 PM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: Libloather

They said Greenland would start melting and it has. Does not mean it is caused by man, but it is happening.

Last year I lost my house in NY to perhaps the worst hurricane in a very long time. Wish they had told me that was coming.


5 posted on 07/29/2013 1:45:54 PM PDT by sakic
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To: Libloather

Can we hurry it along. I’ll burn a tire tonight if needed.


6 posted on 07/29/2013 1:46:43 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Libloather

Won’t this help clean up corruption ?


7 posted on 07/29/2013 1:47:06 PM PDT by wonkowasright (Wonko from outside the asylum)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Wishing for a blight where Americans live?


8 posted on 07/29/2013 1:47:06 PM PDT by sakic
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To: Libloather

Well, if we really believed this crap, NYC and the other coastal cities would be 50 feet under water already according to the predictions of the “Climate Experts and their Climate Models” beginning back in the 1990s!!!!!!


9 posted on 07/29/2013 1:48:47 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (The only growth industries left under Progressives are government and poverty.)
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To: sakic
Wishing for a blight where Americans live?

I am. Call it the karma for having inflicted obamanation on us.

10 posted on 07/29/2013 1:52:04 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Libloather
...will have significant populations living below the high-water mark by the end of this century...

Where's the problem. They say the people will be living, not that they died. It doesn't say they had to move or they want to move or that anyone wants them to move.

11 posted on 07/29/2013 1:53:55 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Libloather
More than 1,700 American cities and towns – including Boston, New York, and Miami – will have significant populations living below the high-water mark by the end of this century, a new climate change study has found.

Still beating a dead donkey.....

And I doubt if there will be "significant populations living below the high-water mark".

12 posted on 07/29/2013 1:54:18 PM PDT by expat2
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To: RetiredTexasVet

Why does ice float?

What other observations or facts are known?

Because ice floats, we can infer that ice must be less dense than water.

Soo if it gets warm and ice melts there will be less ocean levels and Miami NYC Boston loose beach front.


13 posted on 07/29/2013 1:54:19 PM PDT by Baseballguy (If we knew what we know now in Oct would we do anything different?)
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To: sakic

I am not wishing for anything... I was using rhetoric to make a point. There is no globull warming and I doubt that we will go into another Ice Age so nothing will happen... not that the evil that is so dominate in large cities doesn’t deserve such reckoning. That will come from GOD if it ever comes... not from me or from any other man.

LLS


14 posted on 07/29/2013 1:55:43 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: expat2

Maybe they wont move and die, who would miss Miami NYC and Boston.


15 posted on 07/29/2013 1:55:54 PM PDT by Baseballguy (If we knew what we know now in Oct would we do anything different?)
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To: Libloather
Yep, we're all going to die.

And the only way to stop it is to funnel more money into the pockets of these "researchers".

16 posted on 07/29/2013 1:58:44 PM PDT by wbill
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To: LibLieSlayer
As one of the "Ice People" I say bring 'em on.

a giant white wall of ice creeping towards you...

17 posted on 07/29/2013 2:00:06 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Libloather

Quincy, IL just set a record low temperature yesterday, so I wouldn’t worry about global warming


18 posted on 07/29/2013 2:02:17 PM PDT by chae (I was anti-Obama before it was cool)
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To: DManA

Ice mixes well with scotch!

LLS


19 posted on 07/29/2013 2:02:19 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Libloather

Urban areas under water?

Well, there goes my theory that they would all burn to the ground once austerity measures made EBT cards useless pieces of plastic.


20 posted on 07/29/2013 2:05:50 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Libloather

We have close to 400 ft. of salt water frontage. The town keeps raising taxes in spite of the “fact” that we’ll be among the first to get submerged.

Also, I haven’t had any luck in offering up to $10,000 for ocean front homes. I’d think that these people would take the money and head for the hills.


21 posted on 07/29/2013 2:06:02 PM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: Red in Blue PA

Paging Kevin Costner.


22 posted on 07/29/2013 2:06:16 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Libloather

If the left believed this, they’d take steps to mitigate it, dikes, dams, pumps, walls, massive movement away from the coast, forced resettlement. Instead they want Global Governance of all energy sources, run from a central control authority (I read the climate conference papers).


23 posted on 07/29/2013 2:09:46 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Libloather
ATTENTION GOREANS:

North Carolina Status:


24 posted on 07/29/2013 2:16:57 PM PDT by haffast (Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. -Abe Lincoln)
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To: Baseballguy

“who would miss Miami NYC and Boston.”

=

Me. Go Sox !!!!!

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25 posted on 07/29/2013 2:17:26 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Baseballguy

Ice does float but the ice these dire predictions are talking about is the 99% of frozen fresh water in two places, Greenland and Antartica. This is all on land masses and if it melted the seas would rise.

It would almost all have to melt for the oceans to rise that much, which is very unlikely.

Anyway the Dutch have handled it and given time we could too.


26 posted on 07/29/2013 2:26:05 PM PDT by JeanLM (Obama proves melanin is just enough to win elections)
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To: Libloather
On the other hand, since the glaciers are growing down south, New beach front property is opening up!


27 posted on 07/29/2013 2:27:57 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Libloather

Good, lets defund every city that is scheduled to be underwater.

We don’t need no stinkin’ new infrastructure!


28 posted on 07/29/2013 2:31:57 PM PDT by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: sakic
Last year I lost my house in NY to perhaps the worst hurricane in a very long time. Wish they had told me that was coming.

Sorry for your loss, but according to wikipedia Sandy made landfall near Brigantine, New Jersey,[33] with winds of 80 mph (130 km/h). It was a weak Cat 1 at landfall.

Now according to Joe Bastardi, when you have a cold Pacific and a warm Atlantic, which we have, historically you get hurricanes traveling up the east coast. So it could happen again this summer. Did you abandon the property or are you rebuilding ?

29 posted on 07/29/2013 2:34:17 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: JeanLM

It’s more likely that space aliens will destroy New York, than rising oceans!

Bloomberg should just create a new city tax to pay for all the dams and dykes he needs to control HIS environment.

It’s not my problem ;-)


30 posted on 07/29/2013 2:35:06 PM PDT by o2bfree (Lindsey Graham is left of South Carolina.)
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To: Libloather

Right now the global sea ice area is almost exactly at the norm for the years 1978-2008. Most of this year it has been slightly above the norm. For the person who mentioned Greenland, a decline in Northern Hemisphere sea ice has been offset by a rise in Southern Hemisphere sea ice.


31 posted on 07/29/2013 2:36:50 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Libloather

New Orleans is one of the Lib’s favorite cities (”Party Time”!)

Sea level there does not seem to be troubling the AGW crowd.

“The average elevation of the city is currently between one and two feet (0.5 m) below sea level, with some portions of the city as high as 20 feet (6 m) at the base of the river levee in Uptown and others as low as 7 feet (2 m) below sea level in the farthest reaches of Eastern New Orleans.[52]”


32 posted on 07/29/2013 2:41:39 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ("To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"- Voltaire)
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To: sakic
They said Greenland would start melting and it has.

Do you have any evidence other than what "they" said and you do know that the Greenland ice sheet does melt to some extent every summer? Greenland derives its name from the fact that around 900 AD the coastal areas really were green and capable of supporting Norse communities of farmers. So a melt off would not be unprecedented but satellite polar ice surveys and reports the national media ignore indicate that winter sea ice reached record levels this year. And the global climate for about the last fifteen years has stabilized or gotten colder. That collates nicely with the past few decades trend in decreased solar activity. There was a post about that here a couple days ago.

Hurricane numbers and intensity overall have been low in comparison with several periods in the last hundred years. Katrina and Sandy bracketed a ten year lull. I am sorry that doesn't provide any comfort to you over the loss of your house but those are the facts.

33 posted on 07/29/2013 2:46:14 PM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: Libloather

Nonsense. I am in Miami now and everything is just fine and glub glub glub.


34 posted on 07/29/2013 2:47:06 PM PDT by BerniesFriend (Sarah Palin-"Lord knows she's attractive" says bitter Andrea Mitchell and the rest of the MSM)
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To: Libloather

You trying to talk me into this or out of it?


35 posted on 07/29/2013 3:07:27 PM PDT by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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To: Feckless

If the CO2 is already in the atmosphere. Might as well crank up the SUV. Buy a motorhome and go cranking all over the place because the damage is done.


36 posted on 07/29/2013 3:34:22 PM PDT by spawn44 (MOO)
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To: Libloather
Just a couple of small points of order... there has been no statistically significant global warming for the past seventeen years. Also missing from the article... the rate of sea level rise has not increased during the past 100 years.

It is also thought that there has been no overall loss of ice in the world during the past 17 years. The amount of ice in Antarctica has been growing faster than the amount of of ice has been decreasing in Greenland and glaciers in the Northern hemisphere.

Ice melting at the North Pole has a negligible effect on sea level because it is floating in the Arctic Ocean. As an experiment for the kids place ice in a glass and fill it with water. Place a mark at the level of the water, let the ice melt and see what happens to the water level.

Virtually all of the computer models that have been used to predict global warming failed to predict the current lull in the rise of temperatures. None of the models take into account observed solar activity which has been used for hundreds of years to predict future climate with much greater accuracy than the computer models. Unfortunately, if solar activity turns out to be an accurate indicator of future global temperatures there is a good chance that we will be in for cooling not warming.

37 posted on 07/29/2013 5:16:01 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: fireman15

Man, talk about giving scientists a bad name.


38 posted on 07/29/2013 6:57:06 PM PDT by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: o2bfree
Bloomberg should just create a new city tax to pay for all the dams and dykes he needs to control HIS environment.

I'm sure Rosie O' Donnell is willing to do her part./sarc.
39 posted on 07/29/2013 8:20:56 PM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: Sirius Lee

Someone who wishes for death and destruction of their fellow Americans is nothing less than a traitor. You are lower than scum.


40 posted on 07/30/2013 4:13:39 AM PDT by sakic
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To: LibLieSlayer

If you believe there is more evil in big cities you are not very bright. Good and evil people are everywhere.


41 posted on 07/30/2013 4:15:37 AM PDT by sakic
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To: justa-hairyape

Weak?

Maybe you didn’t see the carnage on TV.

We abandoned and moved inland.


42 posted on 07/30/2013 4:17:45 AM PDT by sakic
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To: katana

I didn’t know there was conflict among scientists concerning melting off in the North. The dispute centers around the cause. One side blames nature, the other man.


43 posted on 07/30/2013 4:20:47 AM PDT by sakic
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To: sakic

If you believe that there is just as much evil in rural America as there is in big cities... then you are mistaken.
Let me dump you in rural Mississippi and you will be treated well, fed and housed most likely. Let me drop you 70 miles away in New Orleans... but let me know where you want your body sent.

LLS


44 posted on 07/30/2013 4:40:00 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Sirius Lee

Guess you thought the WTC was karma.

What is the difference between you and the Palestinians who danced in the streets?


45 posted on 07/30/2013 4:46:26 AM PDT by sakic
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To: sakic
If one reads the satellite and older style ocean going vessel reports of winter ice mass in the Arctic during recent years it becomes clear that there is a good deal of bald faced lying going on whenever government and green interest group "scientists" make their announcements about the imminent disappearance of the Greenland and Polar ice sheets. The dispute about cause is a separate and frankly more lopsided issue. But when one side is lying about the actuality of conditions it shows you that the game is or should be just about done.

And again, I was very sorry to learn about the loss of your home. It is infuriating that people like Gore can take advantage of tragedies like yours, to push a myth on which they stake their plans to make billions of $'s in profits (Carbon Credit Exchange).

Hurricanes have been occasionally hitting the northeast coast of America for all of recorded history. They are less common than the Caribbean variety but because of the greater temperature differences between the hot Gulf air and what comes in to meet it from Canada they can be exceedingly violent. I rode out one in late 1986 a few days after wife to be and I moved to Bergen County New Jersey from Texas. No matter where you choose to live nature has some kind of possible disaster on tap to send. Here in the Midwest we have tornadoes and blizzards and always will.

46 posted on 07/30/2013 6:22:44 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: sakic
Yes weak. A weak Cat 1. You cannot change that fact with millions of pictures.
47 posted on 07/30/2013 7:02:39 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: sakic
Arctic sea ice has been increasing this year. Looks like it will be the most ice at this time of year since 2005. And this summer up in the Arctic is perhaps one of the coldest in modern times. But why believe facts and science when you can drum up some pictures, hey. Check out the chart below.


48 posted on 07/30/2013 7:10:34 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: sakic

Rename “New York”, “New Venice”.


49 posted on 07/30/2013 7:41:37 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: justa-hairyape

You can call it weak in terms of wind velocity but you would be missing the big picture. The problem was that three fronts met in one place, something that has never been recorded in this area. Toss in that it was a full moon and the utter devastation the area experienced makes sense

Wind statistics were never the point.


50 posted on 07/30/2013 10:33:10 AM PDT by sakic
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