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Are we winning the war on cancer?
NY Post ^ | July 28, 2013 | ROBERT GOLDBERG

Posted on 07/29/2013 2:00:26 PM PDT by neverdem

Are we really losing the war on cancer? Clifton Leaf’s provocative new book, “The Truth in Small Doses,” claims we are. He’s a bit off-base there — but his prescription is dead on: The key to success is scrapping bureaucratic science and embracing tools that can attack cancer at the speed of life...

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Bottom line: Much of the money for cancer research is poured into an approach that is as deadly as the disease. And we stick to this approach because Food and Drug Administration rules for testing new drugs, and National Cancer Institute guidelines for getting grants to do the research, both insist on it.

Ultimately, Leaf calls for what amounts to a biological counter-insurgency against cancer — targeting tumors and individualizing care.

We’ve made much progress in the war on cancer — but today’s approach to researching, developing and using treatments can’t finish the job. We’re missing the targets by design. Sometimes, to win the war, you need new approaches and new leadership.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cancer; fda; nci

1 posted on 07/29/2013 2:00:26 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Will never happen. The cancer industrial complex will not allow it.


2 posted on 07/29/2013 2:01:22 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Maybe, if we just wear enough ribbons.


3 posted on 07/29/2013 2:02:29 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: neverdem

Just my two cents:

The professionals do not want to find a cure because “searching” for one is so profitable. Imagine if a cure was found? What would all those people employed in research do next? Common sense would say move to the next disease. Every once in a great while they will throw a bone to the masses with “we’ve made great progress” while producing nothing.

Sounds like the government is too involved.


4 posted on 07/29/2013 2:03:54 PM PDT by rfreedom4u (I have a copy of the Constitution! And I'm not afraid to use it!)
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To: neverdem

My two cents: anyone who lives long enough will eventually die from cancer.


5 posted on 07/29/2013 2:06:17 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: dfwgator
And participate in enough fun runs.
6 posted on 07/29/2013 2:07:21 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: neverdem

I’m alive today because of the progress that’s been made in cancer treatment. I’d sure like to see cures for all the different cancers, but I’m grateful for any advances.


7 posted on 07/29/2013 2:08:53 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: rfreedom4u
The professionals do not want to find a cure because “searching” for one is so profitable. Imagine if a cure was found? What would all those people employed in research do next? Common sense would say move to the next disease. Every once in a great while they will throw a bone to the masses with “we’ve made great progress” while producing nothing.

That's just plain idiotic

Everybody will die of cancer or know someone who will.

So for what you are saying to be true, researchers would have to be hiding a cure even though they and/or their loved ones will suffer and die from it.

8 posted on 07/29/2013 2:13:20 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: neverdem
I believe cancer has already been cured.

I believe it does depend on what stage it's in, but it can be, and has been .. cured.


I also believe the population of the US cannot support itself with the lack of a manufacturing base, so the 'service' base is all that we have, and all those idealistic researchers have to have SOMEplace to go and make some money.

9 posted on 07/29/2013 2:15:46 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: rfreedom4u; dfwgator; E. Pluribus Unum
Cancer isn’t a single disease. It is a conspiracy of renegade cells, genetic mutations and biological actions working together to create tumors. Not only does cancer grow differently in each person, each tumor in every individual grows and evolves in its own unique way.

Genetically controlled mechanisms cause tumors to start and spread; cancer drugs that target these mechanisms can deliver individual tumors a knockout blow. That’s where we’ve made the most progress.

There are over 200 different types of cells in the human body. There are three main types of skin cancer. There are four main types of lung cancer. I could go on. The name cancer s very misleading because you'r talking about hundreds of different diseases at a minimum.

10 posted on 07/29/2013 2:17:00 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: BykrBayb
I’m alive today because of the progress that’s been made in cancer treatment. I’d sure like to see cures for all the different cancers, but I’m grateful for any advances.

I'm glad you've beaten it. My mother is fighting breast cancer now, in fact, she is in surgery as I type this for a mastectomy.
11 posted on 07/29/2013 2:38:35 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (I miss you Whitey! (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012). Take care, pretty girl!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

all too true


12 posted on 07/29/2013 2:40:55 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: neverdem

Never happen because its a cash cow.


13 posted on 07/29/2013 2:44:41 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Nowhere Man

Prayers up for your Mom. I hope she’s cancer free by the end of the day, and that she remains cancer free.


14 posted on 07/29/2013 3:24:21 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: neverdem

When you’re afraid to admit the causative behavior, it’s hard to address a cure.

The ties between Birth Control Pills and Breast Cancer are clear.

Unfortunately, there are studies intended to confuse this matter. You must read them very closely to recognize they have not excluded the correlation.

Too often, you’re reading summaries of studies, that have as their sole purpose, the obfuscation of the facts.


15 posted on 07/29/2013 3:39:09 PM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: G Larry

You bring up a very good point. Let’s not forget the meager research done linking abortion to breast cancer, and the fact the the results and further research are being repressed.


16 posted on 07/29/2013 3:50:24 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: neverdem

I know a woman who has cancer, she had a huge tumor in her abdomen and the Mao clinic and MD Anderson said that it was inoperable. She went to Mexico and they took the tumor out, it weighed 33 lbs and was impinging on all her internal organs.

They scheduled 8 hours for surgery and it was so simple it only took 3. They said that they got 100% of the tumor and she is now recovering in an American hospital and is supposed to be home Wednesday. I don’t know her prognosis but at least she can breath now.


17 posted on 07/29/2013 4:03:39 PM PDT by tiki
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To: rfreedom4u
Imagine if a cure was found? What would all those people employed in research do next?

There will never be a "pill" to cure cancer since cancer comes in hundreds if not thousands of forms, each one requiring a specific treatment. Some successful, some not.....

The biggest obstacle to cancer R&D is the govt's control over all research and when the pharmaceuticals are allowed to begin treatment on humans........

Remember the Thalidomide babies of the 50's and 60's?

18 posted on 07/29/2013 4:14:31 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (')
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To: Huskrrrr

You may be right. Cancer takes advantage of weak immune systems, and the longer we live, the less our bodies are able to fight the development of cancers and infections.

Nobody dies of nothing. Although with all the supplements I have dabbled with over the years, I expect to be the healthiest body in the morgue.


19 posted on 07/29/2013 4:16:47 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: neverdem

nobody wants to win. they want to stay employed.


20 posted on 07/29/2013 4:31:07 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: neverdem

Cancer is a war. I won my battle. Others may lose but as a whole we are slowly winning more than we lose. Cancer is us so we need to quit looking at or even thinking of it as a single disease. One single type can have many different genetic causes. As long as we require cellular reproduction we will have cancer. That can be stated with many of our ailments/deficiencies.

Stay free!


21 posted on 07/29/2013 4:37:36 PM PDT by wgmalabama
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To: goodwithagun; G Larry
You bring up a very good point. Let’s not forget the meager research done linking abortion to breast cancer, and the fact the the results and further research are being repressed.

http://www.health.ny.gov/environmental/investigations/cmp/docs/cmp_report.pdf

The importance of reproductive factors in affecting breast cancer risk has been known for a long time. Women who have never given birth (or had a full-term pregnancy) are at a higher risk for breast cancer compared to women who have carried a pregnancy to term.

It's the top of page 26. It was a study about a presumed cluster on Long Island, NY. It's not repressed, but people have to look for it. They acknowledge it, but not explicitly as abortion. The risk is the same in women who had miscarriages or never were pregnant, IIRC. They don't make a big deal about it.
22 posted on 07/29/2013 5:24:45 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Check comment# 10.


23 posted on 07/29/2013 5:27:38 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: BykrBayb

As am I, but if I got cancer again, I doubt I’d have chemo again.


24 posted on 07/29/2013 6:16:48 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (froggie sez water nice and warm)
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To: Nowhere Man

God bless her. I went through that last year (breast cancer surgery) Didn’t lose any parts (except for nodes) and I’m past it now.


25 posted on 07/29/2013 6:18:42 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (froggie sez water nice and warm)
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To: Hot Tabasco

govt’s control over all research

Exactly! And how many of those in government have stock or other interests in the companies doing the research? DEregulation would improve our health care industry.


26 posted on 07/29/2013 6:28:19 PM PDT by rfreedom4u (I have a copy of the Constitution! And I'm not afraid to use it!)
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To: Shimmer1

Chemo is brutal. I’d go through it again, but I’m still relatively strong, and I have people depending on me. As my body ages, there will come a time when I won’t be strong enough to survive chemo. I hear radiation is worse. I hope I never find out first hand.


27 posted on 07/29/2013 6:52:36 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: neverdem

Not to refute what you said, just can’t help thinking if we treat them as separate diseases, we run the risk of missing the forest for the trees.

First, we have different types of cancer according to where in the body it started, e.g., lung cancer, liver cancer. Then, depending on exactly where in the organ it started, e.g., on the lining or deep within, we have the finer types of cancers. These classifications do not preclude the possibility of a common pathogen behind them all.

And different types of cancers behaving differently should not be too surprising because cells belonging to different organs have different structures and physiology to begin with. A cancerous cell is apparently still able to bind to the various substances carried in the blood like it used to, though the effects of those substances are now changed.

Anyway, what do I know? Still, I am very hopeful a cure will be found.


28 posted on 07/29/2013 8:09:57 PM PDT by sun7
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29 posted on 07/29/2013 11:17:31 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: neverdem

I almost don’t see how we could possibly win when our ‘front line troops’ in the fight are earning gazillions on the perpetual war.....

(normally not so conspiracy minded - but this one makes ya wonder......)


30 posted on 07/30/2013 2:03:53 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: neverdem

I almost don’t see how we could possibly win when our ‘front line troops’ in the fight are earning gazillions on the perpetual war.....

(normally not so conspiracy minded - but this one makes ya wonder......)


31 posted on 07/30/2013 2:13:15 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: neverdem

The FDA procedures grew out of the legal system that allows lawyers to troll for clients on TV.


32 posted on 07/30/2013 4:54:45 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: BykrBayb

My radiation was nothing. I mean it, nothing. It was so easy to get through. Made me a bit tired, maybe a little unsteady on my feet. (which I was already struggling with because of chemo)
Chemotherapy affected me so bad. They cut my dose in half and extended the times, but it was still so hard and tough on me, they cut it to 35%, then I said, what good is it then and I told them I wasn’t having the last dose and they said ok.
It’s been 8 months since and I’m still struggling.
Strangely though....My lower back pain quit during chemo, my rosacea disappeared and my complexion was perfect. Odd huh! That didn’t help when I lost my toenails and my molars broke and I couldn’t walk from extreme tiredness and lack of balance and other stuff. It was bad.


33 posted on 07/30/2013 5:08:57 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (When life hands you lemons, ask for tequila and salt.)
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To: neverdem

Medical liberty now!

All these licensing and regulating schemes do is slow the process and cause net harm to the medical industry. There’s way too much licensing/regulating of medicine at the federal, state, county and local level.

It is essentially regulatory capture.


34 posted on 07/30/2013 5:20:03 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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