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Martin? Zimmerman? Who is on trial?
The Longboat Key News ^ | July 29, 2013 | Larry Grossman

Posted on 07/29/2013 5:26:20 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

If the scales of justice are unbalanced then they are no longer scales of justice but rather a measure of injustice in our legal system. If the Lady of Justice is not blind and impartial then she may be sighted and partial or prejudiced reflecting a deep rift in our social fabric.

Justice was not done in Sanford Florida yesterday. A jury of six women, no Afro-Americans and no males, acquitted George Zimmerman of 2nd degree murder and manslaughter. This was a trial that may never have been heard since the Sanford Police Department released George Zimmerman February 2012 after hearing his justification for fatally shooting Trayvon Martin, a 17 year old Afro-American who was visiting his father’s fiancée and her son at the Retreat at Twin Lakes townhouse development.

It was only the outcry and outrage expressed by the public that brought Mr. Zimmerman to trial to account for his actions which brought about the death of a teenager who had purchased candy and iced tea at a local convenience store and was walking back to an apartment where he was staying with family. Otherwise, a man with a concealed weapon who profiled pursued and shot through the heart a “suspect” would have been allowed to go free forever based on his word and physical condition that prima facie demonstrated that he was justified in defending himself against his hoodied assailant. Trayvon Martin would be buried and forgotten- just expendable.

The State brought charges against Mr. Zimmerman and after one year or so we had a three week trial which resulted in a finding for Mr. Zimmerman of not guilty. After the acquittal verdict, at the press interview with the defense attorneys, Attorney West spoke of tragedy and travesty the former referring presumably to the death of Trayvon Martin and the travesty apparently referring to the attempt of the State of Florida to hold Mr. Zimmerman accountable for taking the life of another human being. Mr. West’s comment epitomized how the scales of justice were so weighted down against the victim and how the blindfold of justice was off exposing deep racial prejudices and anything but “color blindness”.

The burden of proof was not on the defendant but upon the victim who couldn’t defend himself because he was dead. In fact, with no allowance for cross examination of the defendant, the prosecution was at a distinct disadvantage to compose a supportable and evidentiary narrative to counter Mr. Zimmerman’s self serving story of his innocence and of Trayvon Martin’s guilt.

Zimmerman was never on trial – Trayvon Martin was. This young man was guilty because of who he was –because there were burglaries in the neighborhood committed by Afro-American youth so Mr. Martin was a “suspect”- because Mr. Martin purportedly surprised Mr. Zimmerman and beat him to the ground and repeatedly pounded his head on the concrete walkway and Zimmerman cried for help but no help came and so to save his body and his life he had to shoot Mr. Martin directly into the heart- the kill shot.

Was Mr. Zimmerman culpable? – no way. The would- be policeman who took courses in legal procedures including Stand Your Ground Law and got an “A”? The mixed martial arts guy who took lessons in defending himself with his hands and body who was so inept after taking three lessons a week for about a year that his instructor rated him as .05 on a scale of 1-10?. The man who was only proficient in pulling a trigger point blank on an unarmed boy who, if Trayvon was defending himself, had the right to do so as much as Mr. Zimmerman? Did Mr. Zimmerman act responsibly in leaving his SUV after being instructed by the police dispatcher not to? Wasn’t he ultimately responsible for the altercation which would have never happened had Mr. Zimmerman followed those instructions? Would Mr. Zimmerman have been so bold to pursue an unknown hooded figure in the rain if he didn’t have a loaded and ready to fire weapon? Was an unarmed boy more or a threat to Mr. Zimmerman than Mr. Zimmerman was to Trayvon?

Did Mr. Zimmerman have a mouth to communicate with? Like identifying himself as a resident of the complex and part of the neighborhood watch program? Or even crying “uncle” or “enough” and talking to Trayvon instead of crying to unseen others for help? Or was Trayvon, the punk, not worthy of verbal communication and, in the mind of George, was determined to murder Mr. Zimmerman so he could go home and watch the NBA All-Star Game? Was Mr. Zimmerman’s interest to prevent a crime that never occurred or to seek vigilante justice- for burglaries that eluded Mr. Zimmerman and now he had his suspect in his sights?

We’ll never know.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: biglie; blackkk; dumbass; florida; georgezimmerman; racism; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
I hope to goodness that Larry isn't a lawyer.
1 posted on 07/29/2013 5:26:20 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This was a trial that never should have gone to court.

People like this idiot forced it on the idiot Attorney General.


2 posted on 07/29/2013 5:29:59 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Martin was the one who SHOULD have been on trial. Following someone in a gated community to find out what they are up to is legal and expected. Bouncing someone’s coconut off of the concrete is not legal. Zimmerman wins all around.


3 posted on 07/29/2013 5:30:21 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Let's make it our turn in 2014. Vote early and VOTE OFTEN.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I hear wet grass.


4 posted on 07/29/2013 5:31:28 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (I hear wet grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
NoLimitsNigga was on trial...and he was found guilty:attempted murder with a deadly weapon,to wit:a length of concrete sidewalk.
5 posted on 07/29/2013 5:31:30 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama Had A City It Would Look Like Detroit.)
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6 posted on 07/29/2013 5:33:52 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (I hear wet grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The burden of proof was not on the defendant but upon the victim who couldn’t defend himself

Angela Corey and crew had every chance they needed to produce enough evidence to counter the defense. They couldn't do it because that evidence doesn't exist. STFU Larry. You are embarrassing yourself.

7 posted on 07/29/2013 5:37:14 PM PDT by bigheadfred (INFIDEL)
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To: Jeff Chandler

no doubt


8 posted on 07/29/2013 5:37:41 PM PDT by bigheadfred (INFIDEL)
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9 posted on 07/29/2013 5:38:15 PM PDT by RedMDer (When immigrants cannot or will not assimilate, its really just an invasion. Throw them out!)
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10 posted on 07/29/2013 5:42:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Larry Grossman is....The Man From...


11 posted on 07/29/2013 5:43:10 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Travesty?

That a person so GALACTICALLY STUPID has any media access to publish his thoughts.


12 posted on 07/29/2013 5:45:47 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Racist and race baiting pieces of #### such as the author of this article get more black Americans killed with their corrupt ideology than the Klan could have ever drempt of. No joke, no sarc, just a big sigh and head shake.
13 posted on 07/29/2013 5:46:26 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Dear Larry,

When someone is beating you, the onus of communication is not on you.

14 posted on 07/29/2013 5:48:55 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: mylife

15 posted on 07/29/2013 5:49:33 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good try at approximating the media bias. Pretty close in fact.


16 posted on 07/29/2013 5:50:04 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
...brought Mr. Zimmerman to trial to account for his actions..

Just what actions were those exactly? Looking at a black man? Walking in the general direction of a black man? Wow, holy crap, I better watch where I look and where I walk then because evidently that gives a black man permission to make an attempt on my life.

17 posted on 07/29/2013 6:15:10 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Most of the residents on LBK I would think are pretty savvy, and rich. However there are quite a few of NY’ers (The Boroughs and surrounding areas) living there too, so I would suspect that it would reflect their thinking.. I think this case was resolved just on the 911 call. Anything beyond that I will attribute to imagination, not journalistic investigation. This article is just another example of an opinion of what passes off as news.


18 posted on 07/29/2013 6:17:24 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Remember Ty Woods? Glenn Doherty ? Forgot already?)
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To: Jeff Chandler

And you have to put GW Bush saying “If I had a son he would have looked like Trayvon”. Imagine how that would have gone over in the press.


19 posted on 07/29/2013 6:18:47 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

May not be a Lawyer but he is certainly a gross man.


20 posted on 07/29/2013 6:20:14 PM PDT by TruthWillWin (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Justice was not done in Sanford Florida yesterday.

*snip*

We’ll never know [what happened].

Both of these can't be true. If we can't know what happened, "not guilty" is the correct verdict, and people who keep wishing it were easier to send people to prison based on what "coulda happened" ought to think long and hard about how that would play out in the many thousands of trials that don't get the publicity of this one.

21 posted on 07/29/2013 6:24:39 PM PDT by PhatHead
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
And you have to put GW Bush saying “If I had a son he would have looked like Trayvon”.

More like, "If I had a Tray... had a son, he would have looked like my son, er, like Trayvon."

22 posted on 07/29/2013 6:33:02 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (I hear wet grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, he isn’t a good enough girbilist to land a job at even a second or third rate news outlet.
Notice the complete lack of posted comment sections throughout the site.
I would suggest Larry’s employment options have been hindered by Larry’s low quality output.


23 posted on 07/29/2013 6:41:33 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: mylife

More like the man from AUNTIE (The Association for Unbelievably Nauseating Television and Idiotic Entertainment).


24 posted on 07/29/2013 6:59:28 PM PDT by NurdlyPeon (It is the nature of liberals to pervert whatever they touch.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That is pretty cool.
I want one!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY2EqFzPzn8


25 posted on 07/29/2013 7:08:42 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“You’re entitled to your own opinions. You’re not entitled to your own facts.” - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

But this is what the Liberal does, uses facts not in evidence to create a fiction that they can rally around. But if you have to lie to make a point, then your point in not worth making.


26 posted on 07/29/2013 7:18:02 PM PDT by Exton1
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Longboat Key is an oh-so-exclusive island just off the coast of Sarasota. It’s populated primarily (exclusively?) by obscenely rich liberals. Police there are reputed to stop cars which they don’t recognize for any made-up traffic/vehicle excuse.


27 posted on 07/29/2013 7:25:15 PM PDT by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“You’re entitled to your own opinions. You’re not entitled to your own facts.” - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

I really do not what is worse, Larry Grossman’s propaganda article or the Longboat Key News publishing it. When the Marxist Liberal cannot make the point they want with the facts on hand, they want they resort to out right lies and half truths.

This race baiting article attacks our legal system, our common sense, and is a fairy tale meant to support the obama agenda of ending gun ownership and having people defend themselves. In fact stories like this are used to enrage the weak minded with the result that everyone associated with Zimmerman have had death threats. Including people with similar phone numbers and last names. DISGUSTING AND UN-AMERICAN.

The writer is a propagandist and corrupt, the paper is Liberal and corrupt for publishing it. Nothing stated uses the facts in evidence, and instead uses the much heard talking point of “Marin as a victim cannot defend himself, because he is dead.” Overall the writer tries to fake a real interest and distain of the outcome in order to gather the support of the gullible, and paint the USA as something that it is not.

The real criminal in this Stalinist show trial is obama, for he used us power to force a trial where none was required. The public would have just ignored this had the race husksters, like Jackson and Sharpton, not to ramp up a false outrage and the President saying that ‘Tryavon would look like his son, or was him 30 years ago.” No comment that the press showed propaganda pictures with Martin as a fresh face twelve-year-old, and George as a criminal in an orange jump suit.

No mention of the Sheriff that was fired or the District Attorney that was replaced, because they thought this was a simple case of self-defense, and George Zimmerman did not break any laws. Then to create a false outrage the writer makes ludicrous unfounded comments. He uses insults to paint Zimmerman as a “would- be policeman, a man with a concealed weapon who profiled pursued and shot through the heart a “suspect.” Why does the Grossman have to add the comments of Attorney West that end with “exposing deep racial prejudices and anything but “color blindness”. When just ABOUT EVERYONE, INCLUDING THE MARTIN’S PARENTS, SAID IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE?

Martin is painted as an innocent child with candy and a ice tea; when the real truth was, as revealed by his destroyed liver, that Martin had two of the three ingredients to make “Lean,” a drug cocktail to get high and delusional with. That Martin took martial arts training and was seen by witness to be hitting Zimmerman in this fashion; and, Martin should have been in jail for the theft of women’s jewelry but the school officials wanted to manipulate the crime numbers to show a false improvement. Grossman can only make his points by hiding the truth of Marin’s background and lying about George Zimmerman. If you have to lie to make your point, then your point is not worth making.

The revealed facts were that Marin took about 30 min to make the 10 min walk back to his residence, on a rainy night. Why was the fool out that long in the rain, looking in window? Then the phone calls to 911 by George reveal that he lost sight of Martin for about 4 min, which does not sound like Zimmerman was really following Martin or posing as a threat. If Martin had just punched Zimmerman and then stood there after he had knocked him to the ground, as a Man would of, Martin would still be alive. If Martin had not hit Zimmerman’s head onto the cement pavement, he would probably still be alive.

Then as a typical liberal with a straw man argument that NO ONE has ever heard before, Grossman throws in more propaganda with “The burden of proof was not on the defendant but upon the victim who couldn’t defend himself because he was dead.” Where is that in the US law books? I guess the writer would rather be “you are guilty until proven innocent.” I bet Grossman is the type that cries for more rights for terrorist and murders, which make him a hypocrite.

In fact to say that Martin could not speak or that the prosecution was at a distinct disadvantage is also a big lie. How many TV shows have the bad guys convicted because of forensic evidence? There was nothing on Martin’s clothes or body that contradicted Zimmerman’s or the eye witness details.

When Zimmerman left the truck, Martin was no where to be seen. No one points out that the 911 operator told Zimmerman to stay in his truck, to protect him from being attacked by a young black man. Crime statistics show that Black youths are involved in more crimes and murder than there numbers would suggest. During the time between the shooting of Martin and the acquittal, over 10,000 Blacks have killed each other. Another shocking statistic, the United States is 3rd in the World for murders! But if you take out just four cities with high black populations – Chicago, Detroit, Washington D.C., and New Orleans – the United States is fourth from the bottom.

The failure of Grossman is to not go after the real problem of crime – the high rate of single mothers with illegitimate babies – makes his article worthless and nothing more than a propaganda piece for those that would destroy our Country. For it makes the USA, which is the most tolerant and least racists country in the World, seem evil and intolerant. If this is the case, then should not the current President be held responsible for this?


28 posted on 07/29/2013 8:33:57 PM PDT by Exton1
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Haters gotta hate, I guess.


29 posted on 07/29/2013 8:37:46 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Justice for Trayvon: Dig up his body and shoot him again.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cool. I had one of those.


30 posted on 07/29/2013 8:39:10 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Justice for Trayvon: Dig up his body and shoot him again.)
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