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FBI to Rand Paul: Domestic drone surveillance doesn’t require a warrant
Washington Examiner ^ | 07/30/2013 | Joel Gerkhe

Posted on 07/30/2013 7:53:17 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Drone surveillance in the United States does not require a warrant, but the practice remains limited, the FBI told Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., in a letter after he placed a hold on James Comey’s nomination to be the new FBI director.

“[T]he FBI does not, and has no plans to use [unmanned aerial vehicles] to conduct general surveillance not related to a specific investigation or assessment,” Stephan Kelly, the assistant director at the FBI’s Office of Congressional Affairs, wrote Paul.

Kelly said that UAVs, or drones, have only been used for surveillance in the United States 10 times since 2006, in cases related to “kidnappings, search and rescue operations, drug interdictions, and fugitive investigations.”

Extant Supreme Court rulings suggest that such surveillance does not qualify as a “search” for purposes of the Fourth Amendment, Kelly added, and so does not require a warrant.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: domesticdrones; drone; fbi; randpaul; surveillance
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To: ilgipper

This is a battle our conservative leaders need to fight with all they have.


Conservative leaders? On the federal level I can only name two.


21 posted on 07/30/2013 8:47:50 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: SeekAndFind
Take it to court. Better than doing nothing.

LLS

22 posted on 07/30/2013 8:51:27 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: BwanaNdege
Other than a 90 degree (or thereabouts) change in azimuth of observation, there is not much difference between a police car cruising down the street in front of your house and a drone flying over it.

Except that what we are talking about here is a technology that will enable the government to park an invisible police car outside your house and watch (and record) it continuously, and to simultaneously track (and record) everywhere you go when you leave it.

23 posted on 07/30/2013 8:51:34 AM PDT by Jack of all Trades (Hold your face to the light, even though for the moment you do not see.)
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To: BwanaNdege; cripplecreek

There’s the rub right there...SHOULDN’T

Now, as for ‘drone’ vs. ‘cruiser’: There’s a reason I put up a PRIVACY fence. A cop can only see up the boundaries I may put up, a drone does so much more.

Soon we’ll all be reading of the great new high-tech gadgets mounted on said drones. Infrared, sonar, electronic surveillance, etc. Even the cops are not allowed to use those wall penetrating ‘viewers’.

How soon before it becomes a crime to shield your home from the outside world....You know, ‘if you have nothing to hide....’


24 posted on 07/30/2013 8:59:47 AM PDT by i_robot73 (We hold that all individuals have the Right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives - LP.org)
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To: BwanaNdege

I agree. When I see “no different than” statements I usually disregard them because there there are almost always differences.


25 posted on 07/30/2013 9:13:23 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m with you there.

Best to You and Yours.


26 posted on 07/30/2013 9:22:43 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: SeekAndFind

citizens to FBI - yes it does


27 posted on 07/30/2013 9:25:51 AM PDT by Wuli (uir)
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To: cripplecreek

Oddly enough there are things that are completely legal in private but illegal in public.

What happens when there is no private?

This sorta thing makes me wanna start digging down underground and become a “mole-person”... The after centuries of “Progressive utopia” us Morlocks can pop up and eat some of them tasty Eloi


28 posted on 07/30/2013 9:25:59 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: BwanaNdege

“Unless you are sunbathing nude in your fenced back yard. (Not really a good idea. Some teenager with a quad-copter will have the video on YouTube before your sunburns starts to hurt!)”

BOL! Even pre teeners might do the scanning.


29 posted on 07/30/2013 9:41:44 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Having a discussion with liberals is like shearing pigs. Lots of squealing & little fleece!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Drone surveillance in the United States does not require a warrant...

Okay.

Just so long as you agree that blowing them out of the air with a 12 gauge, 3 inch magnum turkey load doesn't require a hunting permit.

30 posted on 07/30/2013 9:46:53 AM PDT by OldSmaj (I am an avowed enemy of islam and obama is a damned fool and traitor. Questions?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Putting a camera in someones back yard to collect evidence has always needed a search warrant, but flying a camera into someones backyard does not?

Idiots.

Totalitarian, Unconstitutional Traitors to the Union, who are... idiots.


31 posted on 07/30/2013 9:47:37 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Who needed the Fourth amendment anyway? Just some words on paper. And since 0bama doesn't enforce current law, we at the FBI won't either. After all, we are part of Eric Holder's justus dept.

My country is slipping away...

5.56mm

32 posted on 07/30/2013 9:54:08 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: cripplecreek

33 posted on 07/30/2013 10:04:43 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: SeekAndFind
We need Granny Clampett to come out with her shotgun every time a drone spies on a citizen w/o a warrant.
34 posted on 07/30/2013 10:09:23 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: BwanaNdege

The technology might be more sophisticated than you think.


35 posted on 07/30/2013 10:37:11 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: cripplecreek

fine, but do you want police to follow you everywhere you go and not hve a reason to do it other than they just can?

it is one thing to see officer shoot-yer-dog just driving by the neighborhoodperiodically and noticing you doing something in your yard. it’s another when the state actively surveils you constantly to build huge case files on you and know what you’ve done better than yourself, and you have no idea why. we are not east germany.


36 posted on 07/30/2013 10:51:09 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Jim Robinson

thank you, exactly. why some people are just fine with a police state unchecked is beyond me. “technology” is NOT and acceptable excuse to just allow it unchecked and to ignore the law of requiring warrants.


37 posted on 07/30/2013 10:52:48 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Walrus

“Methinks it’s time for the FBI director to chat with Mike Kelly, Trey Gowdy and Darrell Issa. These gentlemen, I’m sure, will make it abundantly clear to the FBI that, suggestive “extant rulings” aside, there is no freakin’ way they can conduct domestic surveillance operations without a proper search warrant.”


You are kidding right???? These three chest pounders are going to do something about it?

So far they are 0 out of 4 on the “phony scandals”.

Holder is still walking around free and not in jail for his contempt of congress and perjury charges...

These three have been lied to some many times by people under oath that most of the Obama admin would be in jail for perjury and they do........nothing but pound their chest for the TV.


38 posted on 07/30/2013 11:27:45 AM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: SeekAndFind

“FBI does not, and has no plans to use...”

Hold them to that statement, Rand!


39 posted on 07/30/2013 4:03:18 PM PDT by In Another Time... (..In another place...)
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To: eartick

Kidding? No.

Chest thumpers? Hah. Who would YOU suggest ? Lindsey Graham? John McCain?

Troll.


40 posted on 07/30/2013 6:06:56 PM PDT by Walrus (America died on November 6, 2012 --- RIP)
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