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Group sues FBI for records after Michael Hastings’ mysterious death
The Daily Caller ^ | 30 Jul 2013 | Josh Peterson

Posted on 07/30/2013 7:57:59 AM PDT by mandaladon

A journalist and a researcher have sued the Justice Department for access to the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s records on the late journalist Michael Hastings.

The lawsuit follows the FBI’s failure to respond to separate Freedom of Information Act requests for records on Hastings submitted by journalist Jason Leopold of al-Jazeera and Massachusetts Institute of Technology researcher Ryan Shapiro.

Agencies are required by statute to notify applicants about whether it will fulfill their requests within a 20-working-day period of the initial application.

In the hours before his death, which was ruled an accident by the Los Angeles Police Department, Hastings emailed Wikileaks’ lawyer Jennifer Robinson that he was being investigated by the federal government.

Staff Sgt. Joseph Biggs — who knew Hastings when he was embedded with Bigg’s unit in Afghanistan — told KTLA Hastings had blind copied him on an email sent 15 hours before his death, notifying colleagues that federal officials were interviewing his “close friends and associates.”

Leopold, a personal friend of Hastings, wrote in a piece published on the Freedom of the Press Foundation’s website that a government investigation into Hastings would not be a surprise.

“Given the nature of Hastings’s investigative work and the revelations that have surfaced about the government’s interest in journalists’ sources it wouldn’t come as a surprise to me if some agency was looking into Hastings’s journalistic activities,” said Leopold

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: barnabyjack; coverup; fbi; foia; government; hacker; hastings; jasonleopold; michaelhastings; mystery
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In the hours before his death, which was ruled an accident by the Los Angeles Police Department, Hastings emailed Wikileaks’ lawyer Jennifer Robinson that he was being investigated by the federal government............Coincidence?
1 posted on 07/30/2013 7:57:59 AM PDT by mandaladon
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To: mandaladon
On July 24, Forbes revealed that computer security researcher team Chris Miller and Chris Valasek could wirelessly manipulate a moving automobile with a laptop. Miller and Valasek’s work served to bolster speculation that Hastings’s vehicle was hijacked via a cyber attack, resulting in his tragic death on June 18.....................This is the most interesting part of this case.
2 posted on 07/30/2013 7:59:47 AM PDT by mandaladon (The truth about Benghazi is all I want)
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To: mandaladon

al Jazeera is hitting the ground running.


3 posted on 07/30/2013 8:00:34 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: maggief; hoosiermama; penelopesire

FYI


4 posted on 07/30/2013 8:00:51 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: mandaladon

BookMark

Dear Lord, please guide our course.
Tatt


5 posted on 07/30/2013 8:10:12 AM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: mandaladon

Well, it’s not actually part of this case, since there is no evidence that anyone “hacked” Hasting’s vehicle. It’s just wanton speculation.


6 posted on 07/30/2013 8:28:43 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: mandaladon; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; ...
On July 24, Forbes revealed that computer security researcher team Chris Miller and Chris Valasek could wirelessly manipulate a moving automobile with a laptop. Miller and Valasek’s work served to bolster speculation that Hastings’s vehicle was hijacked via a cyber attack, resulting in his tragic death on June 18.....................

This is the most interesting part of this case.

To me, the most interesting part is that Barnaby Jack who was hired to do just that abruptly dropped dead at age 30. No cause of death released...

Betray obama

have a blast.

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To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don’t add you to the list...

7 posted on 07/30/2013 8:30:03 AM PDT by null and void (You don't know what "cutting edge" means till you insult Mohammed.)
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To: Boogieman

What evidence of hacking would you expect to survive the explosion, fire and crash?

What evidence would you expect the government to find?


8 posted on 07/30/2013 8:34:02 AM PDT by null and void (You don't know what "cutting edge" means till you insult Mohammed.)
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To: mandaladon

In less than 15 years, it will be mandatory for all vehicles to have black boxes. Any older vehicle without one will need to be retrofitted. Not retrofitting an older vehicle will be illegal and punishable by a fine and possibly prison.

It will be impossible to move around freely. They’ll know where you are at all times. They monitor your sleep patterns via your phone’s camera. They monitor your Internet usage. They monitor when you go to and from work. They monitor if you use public transportation. They monitor if you move about by bus or plane. They monitor your location with the GPS in your phone. They monitor when you start your workday and when you leave. They monitor how much you spend online and at points of sale. With Obamacare, they’ll monitor everything about your health and your body and determine if you are eligible to be saved if you become gravely ill.

We are no longer free people, and I fear humanity, barring a direct X-class flare or nuclear holocaust, will never be free again.


9 posted on 07/30/2013 8:34:44 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/

The Obama Dead Pool File

http://www.nachumlist.com/deadpool.htm


10 posted on 07/30/2013 8:37:50 AM PDT by Nachum (The Obama "List" at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: null and void

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b47_1374871648


11 posted on 07/30/2013 8:38:49 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: null and void

“What evidence of hacking would you expect to survive the explosion, fire and crash?

What evidence would you expect the government to find?”

One would have to assume that evidence existed in the first place in order to answer those questions, which I will not. You don’t assume an outlandish possibility happened, without evidence, and then make excuses as to why you can’t produce the evidence. Instead, one should assume the outlandish possibility did not happen until evidence can be produced to the contrary.


12 posted on 07/30/2013 8:41:27 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

MOM.

Motive
Opportunity
Means


13 posted on 07/30/2013 8:46:30 AM PDT by null and void (You don't know what "cutting edge" means till you insult Mohammed.)
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To: Boogieman
there is no evidence that anyone “hacked” Hasting’s vehicle.

I agree, it's a fertile field for speculation, especially since the article on vehicle hacking came out, but I'm very dubious on this wreck being caused by sinister elements.

14 posted on 07/30/2013 8:50:35 AM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: rarestia

Very well put.


15 posted on 07/30/2013 8:51:52 AM PDT by New Perspective (Proud father of a 9 yr old son with Down Syndrome and fighting to keep him off Obama's death panels.)
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To: null and void

That’s a nice pop culture mnemonic, but you still need to actually have evidence that the crime happened, which you don’t have.


16 posted on 07/30/2013 9:06:37 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: null and void

Wasn’t the body cremated before the family was notified?


17 posted on 07/30/2013 9:16:02 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: null and void

the ‘hits’ list just keeps growing.....


18 posted on 07/30/2013 9:20:18 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Boogieman
Pop culture? You do know that's the mnemonic for the elements of evidence needed for a circumstantial case, don't you?

They are necessary (but not by themselves sufficient) elements for a criminal case to proceed.

In this particular case, they are augmented by deliberate destruction of evidence in direct violation of the families wishes, the fact that the pizzeria surveillance video shows a flash before the car collides with the palm tree, the sudden and unexplained death of a skilled hacker known to have been working on software take-overs of motor vehicles, the total and instant involvement of the crashed vehicle in fire, and the distance of the engine and transmission from the main crash scene, and the fact that the victim notified his friends that he needed to get out of dodge because he found out something.

But if you're happier thinking your government would never resort to force to control us, more power to you in your blissful little bubble.

19 posted on 07/30/2013 9:24:34 AM PDT by null and void (You don't know what "cutting edge" means till you insult Mohammed.)
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To: Boogieman

Pray tell, how would you prove it was hacked? You can’t. If there was a hack, it more than likely was not stored in the non-volatile memory of the car systems impacted by the hack. You can verify this yourself, if you have the technical know how.

So in this case, if you could get it to jury trial, it would have to be about the circumstances surrounding what happened.

Many crimes have no *direct evidence*, and yet someone gets convicted. That is why we have juries.

I would love this sent to trial, but no one knows who to prosecute.


20 posted on 07/30/2013 9:25:18 AM PDT by Aqua225 (Realist)
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To: SE Mom; hoosiermama; penelopesire; LucyT; MestaMachine; thouworm; crosslink

http://www.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeedpolitics/hillary-clinton-aide-tells-reporter-to-fuck-off

Hillary Clinton Aide Tells Reporter To “F*ck Off” And “Have A Good Life”

As the State Department’s story about what happened in Benghazi crumbles, Clinton’s personal spokesperson, Philippe Reines, loses his temper. “Have a good day. And by good day I mean F*ck Off.”

posted on September 24, 2012

On Sunday morning, BuzzFeed correspondent Michael Hastings emailed Philippe Reines, Hillary Clinton’s longtime aide and personal spokesman at the State Department, asking a series of pointed questions about State’s handling of the Benghazi fiasco, and Reines’ over-the-top attack on CNN. The emails quickly got personal, with Reines calling Hastings an “unmitigated *sshole” before an exchange of harsh words on both sides.

(snip)

To: Reines, Philippe I Cc: Nuland, Victoria J
Subject: Re: Request for comment

Hah—I now understand what women say about you, too! Any new complaints against you lately?

______________________________________
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Reines, Philippe I wrote:

Talk about bullsh*t - answer me this: Do you only traffic in lies, or are you on the ground floor of creating them?

And since F*ck Off wasn’t clear enough, I’m done with you. Inside of 5 minutes when I can log into my desktop, you’ll be designated as Junk Mail.

Have a good life Michael.

(snip)

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/07/29/huma-abedin-dines-with-clinton-spokesman/July 29th, 2013

Huma Abedin dines with Clinton spokesman

Washington (CNN) - Huma Abedin was spotted having dinner Monday night with Hillary Clinton’s spokesman, Philippe Reines, in Washington.

The two were seen sitting outside at Meiwah Restaurant, a bustling area located between the neighborhoods known as Dupont Circle and Foggy Bottom.

Meiwah is a favorite spot of Reines’ and is considered a place to see and be seen.

(snip)


21 posted on 07/30/2013 9:26:53 AM PDT by maggief
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To: null and void

Well argued, nully!


22 posted on 07/30/2013 9:27:45 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rats vs. GOPe = Same train, different speed.)
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To: sarasota
Wasn’t the body cremated before the family was notified?

No. The body was cremated after the family explicitly said they did not want it cremated.

I don't know why.

The same sequence was followed with the remains of SEAL team 6 members.

23 posted on 07/30/2013 9:30:04 AM PDT by null and void (You don't know what "cutting edge" means till you insult Mohammed.)
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To: mandaladon
Agencies are required by statute to notify applicants . . .

By statute? How charming! An educator and a reporter acting as if the rule of law still exists in this country. Perhaps if the bulk of their professions hadn't supported the election of the current fascist government - not once, but twice - then their little FOIA request might actually mean something. Instead, they can get in line behind the hundreds of other FOIA requests that go unanswered in this era of lawlessness.

24 posted on 07/30/2013 9:31:05 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: mandaladon
The lawsuit follows the FBI’s failure to respond to separate Freedom of Information Act requests

Silly Peons, Law is for Thee, not for Meeee...

25 posted on 07/30/2013 9:45:04 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: null and void

“Pop culture? You do know that’s the mnemonic for the elements of evidence needed for a circumstantial case, don’t you?

They are necessary (but not by themselves sufficient) elements for a criminal case to proceed. “

Yes, their are not by themselves sufficient, because you need, first and foremost, evidence that an actual crime was committed. Evidence that, despite all the non-evidence you cite in the rest of your post, you still don’t have. If you can’t even establish that Hastings didn’t crash his car himself, then you certainly can’t begin to prove that someone else hacked it in order to murder him.


26 posted on 07/30/2013 9:46:19 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Aqua225

“Pray tell, how would you prove it was hacked? You can’t”

Thank you for admitting that there is no evidence of hacking and the rest is pure speculation.


27 posted on 07/30/2013 9:47:36 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: maggief

This phillip maggot is likely to wind up in an accident next before he can be hauled up for questioning.


28 posted on 07/30/2013 9:52:46 AM PDT by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework. OK?' - POSHITUS)
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To: Boogieman; maggief

Maggie, you got that pic of the bullet holes handy?


29 posted on 07/30/2013 9:54:59 AM PDT by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework. OK?' - POSHITUS)
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To: Boogieman
No, thank you for advocating murder under the cover of authoritah, as long as they are careful to destroy or conceal evidence.

No pattern here, just a bunch of totally unrelated, isolated, random lethal incidents...

30 posted on 07/30/2013 9:56:37 AM PDT by null and void (You don't know what "cutting edge" means till you insult Mohammed.)
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To: null and void

Advocating isn’t quite the right word. Enabling? No, not quite right either.

Maybe excusing? Covering for? Ignoring the possibility of?


31 posted on 07/30/2013 9:58:42 AM PDT by null and void (You don't know what "cutting edge" means till you insult Mohammed.)
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To: null and void

How can I be advocating murder when there is not the first shred of actual evidence that a murder took place?


32 posted on 07/30/2013 9:59:31 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: null and void

No, I’d say “refusing to acknowledge that which doesn’t exist”... or maybe “embracing reality”, “rejecting delusion”, take your pick.


33 posted on 07/30/2013 10:00:29 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
“refusing to acknowledge that which doesn’t exist”

That's closer.

“refusing to acknowledge the possibility of foul play”

or maybe "insisting that governmental evil cannot possibly exist"

More seriously, what in your mind would constitute evidence? Is it a high enough body count? A long enough series of remarkable coincidences? A clearly forged crucial document?

I'm not asking what would prove it to you, that is, after all, a rather high standard, I'm just curious to know what threshold needs to be crossed for you to even question the obama administration.

34 posted on 07/30/2013 10:09:47 AM PDT by null and void (You don't know what "cutting edge" means till you insult Mohammed.)
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To: mandaladon

bookmark


35 posted on 07/30/2013 10:12:41 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Boogieman
Hey, boogieman, what do you make of this? Besides a hat, brooch or pterodactyl, of course.


36 posted on 07/30/2013 10:22:07 AM PDT by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework. OK?' - POSHITUS)
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To: Boogieman

So I guess we have to quit charging people with crime since even if we have a person at a place, or action being taken, but don’t have who did it on camera, just some motives and it happened there, we must stop charging people.

Whatever.


37 posted on 07/30/2013 10:24:47 AM PDT by Aqua225 (Realist)
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To: rarestia

Reason 316 why I don’t have a cell phone. Much of what you posted is negated if you don’t have a cell phone. Not all of it, but much of it.

I doubt a pre-2000 vehicle could be retrofitted with a black box. The necessary electronics just aren’t there.


38 posted on 07/30/2013 10:40:52 AM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: txhurl; Boogieman

39 posted on 07/30/2013 10:50:45 AM PDT by maggief
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To: upchuck

You realize that the contents of a black box essentially mimic that of most modern smartphones?

Speed, direction, location... all of it could be determined by something the size of a deck of cards. No new electronics required.


40 posted on 07/30/2013 10:53:03 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia

Not if I don’t have a smart phone, which I don’t.

Black boxes measure accelerator position and movement, braking system, tire pressure, steering wheel position and movement, etc. Which of these indicators are available from a smart phone?


41 posted on 07/30/2013 11:19:08 AM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: upchuck

Acceleration and braking can be determined by GPS very easily. Steering wheel position and movement could very simply be inferred by direction of the vehicle.

These “black boxes” are no bigger than a Tupperware container. They don’t necessarily have to be integrated into the systems of a vehicle to be useful to crash investigations, insurance companies, or government entities.


42 posted on 07/30/2013 11:29:45 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: maggief; null and void; Nachum; Velveeta; Oorang; Rushmore Rocks; MamaDearest; DAVEY CROCKETT; ...
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Article, # 19 , # 21. Other good comments in thread, too.

Thanks for the pings.

43 posted on 07/30/2013 11:37:46 AM PDT by LucyT ("What happens in Vegas stays in the Utah data center".)
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To: LucyT

Also point out MaggieF picture. Sure looks like bullet holes!


44 posted on 07/30/2013 11:58:41 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then)
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To: null and void

Condoning.


45 posted on 07/30/2013 12:13:35 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Boogieman

Just want the dead man wrote in e-mails before he died.


46 posted on 07/30/2013 12:20:40 PM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: null and void

I have never refused to acknowledge the possibility, only the probability. It’s just not a likely scenario. When you have an unlikely, implausible explanation for something that is much easier to explain with a more likely, more plausible explanation, then you need convincing evidence before you even begin to entertain the less likely explanation. There’s no evidence like that here.

“More seriously, what in your mind would constitute evidence? Is it a high enough body count? A long enough series of remarkable coincidences? A clearly forged crucial document? “

Body counts (in and of themselves) aren’t evidence of murder, nor are coincidences. A document, well, depending on what kind of document, what is in it, and what purpose it might have been forged for, might be evidence of something, but I don’t see how that is relevant here.

“I’m just curious to know what threshold needs to be crossed for you to even question the obama administration.”

I question them all the time, I just don’t accuse them of murder when there is no actual evidence to back up the accusation.


47 posted on 07/30/2013 12:31:10 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: txhurl

What exactly am I supposed to be looking for? Seems like a blurry photo of a firefighter at a crash scene.


48 posted on 07/30/2013 12:32:30 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: null and void
This is the most interesting part of this case.

And that he was cremated against or aside from the family's wishes

And that Al Jazzy is interested in the story.

And that despite the inferno, his finger prints were still viable.

And, in my most Wolfgang voice, "a dozen other ver-rry interesting parts."

49 posted on 07/30/2013 12:33:52 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: Aqua225

No, but you must have evidence that an actual crime occurred before you can charge anyone with it. That’s pretty basic stuff. It’s pretty hard to charge someone with murder if the coroner rules a death accidental, for example.


50 posted on 07/30/2013 12:34:47 PM PDT by Boogieman
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