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Trayvon Martin's mother: Repeal stand-ground law [& Jesse Jackson, SYG = racism]
SF Gate ^ | July 29, 2013 | Curt Anderson

Posted on 07/30/2013 8:00:53 AM PDT by kevcol



Sybrina Fulton repeated her assertion that neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman "got away with murder" in the 2012 killing of her son largely because of Florida's self-defense law, which generally removed a person's duty to retreat if possible in the face of danger. It was the first of its kind in the nation when passed in 2005. Now, about two dozen states have similar laws, but the focus of repeal efforts is squarely on Florida.

"We have to change the law so that this doesn't happen to someone else's child," Fulton told reporters
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Although he was not part of the event, the Rev. Jesse Jackson appeared as a spectator and later told reporters that the "stand your ground" law reminded him of past laws that prevented blacks from sitting at the front of buses.
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The Justice Department is investigating whether Zimmerman, who identifies as Hispanic, may have committed a hate crime in killing Martin.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: banglist; georgezimmerman; jessejackson; johnmccain; mccain; racebaiters; syg; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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According to Sybrina Fulton, George Zimmerman was aquitted due to SYA (complete BS).

According to Jesse, self defense now = racism. That's not surprising either.

According to Holder, if you defend yourself against a black thug bashing your head on a sidewalk, that might be a hate crime.
1 posted on 07/30/2013 8:00:53 AM PDT by kevcol
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To: kevcol

...and according to Obie a black man has the right to cap any white person following too closely behind him.


2 posted on 07/30/2013 8:03:46 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: kevcol
And now this change.org petition:

Petition by

Tracy Martin and Sybrina Fulton with Change for Trayvon

Last year, our son Trayvon Martin was stalked, chased down and killed by George Zimmerman, and Zimmerman faced no punishment whatsoever. That's in large part because Florida is one of at least 21 states with some form of 'Stand Your Ground' law, which enables people like George Zimmerman to claim self-defense.

We're calling on 21 governors whose states have some form of 'Stand Your Ground' laws to review those laws and amend them so that people who instigate conflicts -- people like George Zimmerman -- won't be able to use these laws to get away with murder.

'Stand Your Ground' was never meant to give aggressors the opportunity to get away with murder, but that is what happened when our son, Trayvon Benjamin Martin was killed. After Trayvon's death, law enforcement used the law as an excuse to refuse to arrest George Zimmerman. Even worse, the jury in the case was instructed to think of what Zimmerman did as self-defense, even though Zimmerman ignored instructions from the police and instigated conflict with our son, who was just trying to get home to his father.

We are shocked and heartbroken by the jury’s decision to allow our son’s killer to go free. Despite our despair, we must honor Trayvon’s legacy by doing all that we can to protect other young people from being targeted, pursued, and senselessly murdered.

We are not the only ones calling for 'Stand Your Ground' laws to be reviewed. President Obama spoke out on the need for review, and prominent Republicans like Senator John McCain have joined him. This is not a Democrat or Republican issue, it’s not ‘black’ or ‘white’ issue, it’s a wrong and right issue. This is a matter of making sure that no other family will ever have to go through what we have been through. No parents should ever have to know what it feels like to watch your child's killer walk free.

Here in Florida, we are pushing for an amendment to Florida's 'Stand Your Ground' law. Sign our petition to call on all at least 21 governors to review their laws and consider similar amendments so that they can protect children in their states, just as we wish Florida would have protected Trayvon.

We want to say thank you to all of you who have stood up for our son. Because of all of your efforts, Trayvon’s life is celebrated all over the world. Please continue to stand with us as we fight to ensure that his legacy is to leave behind a safer and more peaceful world for all our sons and daughters.



McCain! you &^%$#....
3 posted on 07/30/2013 8:04:02 AM PDT by kevcol
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To: kevcol

Stop attacking my rights, you hateful b*tch.


4 posted on 07/30/2013 8:04:33 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: kevcol

The FL stand your ground laws had NOTHING to do with this case. Zimmerman’s defense lawyers never invoked the law as part of their defense. Zimmerman shot Martin in self defense. The agenda being pursued here has nothing to do with the facts of this case.


5 posted on 07/30/2013 8:05:17 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: kevcol

They’re agitating for a more general reaction out of “whitey” to give them an excuse to use the militarized federal law enforcement against them.


6 posted on 07/30/2013 8:05:24 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: kevcol

The MSM will NEVER find the ‘off’ button for these sh&%s!


7 posted on 07/30/2013 8:05:43 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The test of every religious, political, or educational system is the man that it forms." H. Amiel)
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To: kevcol

A perfect example of a low info voter. I think in this case though their “tragedy” is being used in an attempt to further gun control. These people can’t even see past their race long enough to see how they are being used.


8 posted on 07/30/2013 8:06:05 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: gov_bean_ counter

We live in a politically correct world now.

I would be afraid of getting in any altercation with a black person. Why? Because the way the social/legal climate is now, the presumption is that the black person is innocent of any wrongdoing, while it is up to you to prove that you were not somehow at fault.

How many people want to do neighborhood watch now? How many neighborhood watch people are now bending over backwards to avoid reporting suspicious activity by blacks, for fear of being the next George Zimmerman?


9 posted on 07/30/2013 8:06:20 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: kevcol
Trayvon Martin's mother: Repeal stand-ground law

Also, repeal the law that makes .08 the Blood Alcohol Content necessary for a DUI, since that law was just as responsible for Zimmerman's acquittal as Stand Your Ground was.

10 posted on 07/30/2013 8:06:51 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (July 4, 1776: Declaration of Independence. Nov 6, 2012: Declaration of Dependence. R.I.P. America.)
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To: kevcol
While she's at it, why not repeal the Florida seat belt law

It's as relevant to her son's death as is the SYG law.

11 posted on 07/30/2013 8:06:54 AM PDT by skimbell
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

You can always tell what is standing in the way of their next step by what they most strongly oppose, or advocate.

SYG stands in the way of what?

Thugs preying on civilized people. They must want that with a passion.


12 posted on 07/30/2013 8:07:01 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: kevcol
Now you know exactly why "stand your ground" wasn't used....IT WASN'T APPLICABLE!!!

Now the kid was living with who??

13 posted on 07/30/2013 8:07:35 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

All true.

Apparently you read cursive.


14 posted on 07/30/2013 8:08:24 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: chris37

Trayvon’s mother had not raised him full time since he was two years old. He was being raised in various ad hoc arrangements his whole life. Which was one reason he was a gang banger in training.

She got about a million dollar settlement from the homeowner’s association due to her son’s death. And she has that even though Zimmerman was acquitted of a crime.

I don’t know what to make of her. She’s not just a grieving mother, even though the MSM is portraying her as such.


15 posted on 07/30/2013 8:08:28 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: kevcol

This absentee-mother wants to change the ‘SYG’ law and add ‘retreat’ to the mix? How could Mr. George Zimmerman have ‘retreated’ while his head was being bashed into concrete?


16 posted on 07/30/2013 8:08:39 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: kevcol

Trayvon Martin’s mother: Repeal stand-ground law
Cuban leaf: Are you still here? Your 15 minutes are up. Feel free to talk with your friends about stuff you actually know about and let the adults handle this.


17 posted on 07/30/2013 8:08:58 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: kevcol

He (Holder) also said for “White people to run away”


18 posted on 07/30/2013 8:09:08 AM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: kevcol

“We have to change the law so that this doesn’t happen to someone else’s child,” Fulton told reporters


Actually, what needs to be changed is the behavior of boys like Trayvon.


19 posted on 07/30/2013 8:09:48 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: kevcol

I hate factual errors. Zimmerman did not “INSTIGATE” things. The jury concluded that Trayvon threw the first punch. Yet we are being fed this narrative that Zimmerman started the fight, regardless of whether that conflicts with evidence presented in court.


20 posted on 07/30/2013 8:09:56 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I know what to make of her.

She is a parasite.


21 posted on 07/30/2013 8:11:18 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: cuban leaf

True. The liberals, race baiters, and media, are all not saying anything about the fact that Trayvon was a gang banger in training. The jury concluded that Trayvon started the fight. Perhaps to prove that he was tough? We’ll never know.

Even that girl of Trayvon’s, Rachel, in an interview, said that Trayvon was giving Zimmerman a “whoop ass”, which I assume is some ghetto term for beating someone up and showing someone who is boss.


22 posted on 07/30/2013 8:12:15 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: kevcol
Jesse Jackson, SYG = racism
23 posted on 07/30/2013 8:12:23 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

“How could Mr. George Zimmerman have ‘retreated’ while his head was being bashed into concrete?’

That’s a good question, one that a complicit media will never ask.


24 posted on 07/30/2013 8:12:34 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: kevcol

I really hate that some people can just get a “get out of stupid free” card on crap like this. Is Trayvon’s mother a moron? Really does she not realize that stand your ground had absolutely nothing to do with Trayvon getting shot or in Zimmerman getting acquitted? Minorities aren’t served well by letting stupid people become the face of their race.


25 posted on 07/30/2013 8:14:38 AM PDT by Maelstorm (If all are treated as suspects it will not be long before we all are treated as prisoners.)
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To: MrB
You can always tell what is standing in the way of their next step by what they most strongly oppose, or advocate. SYG stands in the way of what? Thugs preying on civilized people. They must want that with a passion.

Somebody on another thread said it well: For some in the "inner city", crime is a career path, and the existence of armed victims is an OSHA violation.

26 posted on 07/30/2013 8:16:16 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: kevcol

Sybrina Fulton, Trayvon’s mother - before the media handler (Ryan Julison) took control of the scripting, and made sure Tracy and Sybrina appeared together.

upon hearing of Trayvon’s death Sybrina never left North Dade (Fort Lauderdale) to travel to Sanford. She stayed home. The first time she actually went to Sanford was to attend a press conference on March 8th.

2 months later when Sybrina travelled to London, England

Trayvon’s Dad, Tracy Martin, was living with his sister Ebony Martin Mcclain, also in Miami Gardens. However, Tracy was reported to be considering a permanent move to live with girlfriend Brandy Green and her son, Chad, in Sanford. *Brandy Green is, or was, pregnant with Tracy’s child.

[ You also need to remember Tracy was still married to Alicia Martin - the "step-mom" from the Dr. Phil show. Tracy and Alicia Martin had been together for 14 years and married for 7 Alicia is by all considerations "The Forgotten Woman"]

Trayvon was NOT living with his mom. Trayvon was NOT living with his dad. Trayvon was living with his uncle, Stephen Martin, and his wife “Aunt Miriam, in Miami Gardens.

Tracy Martin (middle)

More Here

27 posted on 07/30/2013 8:16:25 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: PapaBear3625

There’s an agenda here that’s bigger than protecting thugs from their prey.

I think they’re intentionally agitating for a general reaction from the civilized people so they have an excuse to use their militarized Fedleos against the people.


28 posted on 07/30/2013 8:19:29 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Does anyone else think that it was stupid, for the race baiters, liberals and MSM, to use this case as some sort of metaphor or symbol for the state of race relations, and treatment of black people under the law in this country?

They are taking all sorts of liberties with the truth, in order to make a narrative that a “white Hispanic” with a gun shot a black boy for no reason. And they are taking liberties with the truth to make it sound as if the biggest threat to black men in this country is a white Hispanic neighborhood watch person with a gun. The fact that the biggest threat to black men is another black man with a gun is ignored as they pursue this narrative.


29 posted on 07/30/2013 8:19:57 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: kevcol
She's trying to be the next Cindy Sheehan, who also got a lot of mileage from her son dying while doing what he chose to do.
The difference is that U.S. Army Specialist Casey Sheehan died honorably, serving his country, while Trayvon was a street thug.
We will never know how many lives Zimmerman saved that day.

30 posted on 07/30/2013 8:22:06 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
I think you are correct and the Grievance Industry's over the top reaction is hurting their “cause”.
31 posted on 07/30/2013 8:22:47 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: MrB
There’s an agenda here that’s bigger than protecting thugs from their prey.

It is vital to their agenda, for busloads of thugs to be able arrive at the home of anyone openly opposing their agenda, to "protest" and trash the place. The fear of getting shot makes this harder to organize.

32 posted on 07/30/2013 8:23:48 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: kevcol
She is wrong first of all because Zimmerman was acquitted under traditional self defense not SYG.

Second where was he supposed to retreat to with her thugson sitting on him wailing MMA blows on him???

33 posted on 07/30/2013 8:24:55 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: kevcol

How about we repeal a few more Trayvons instead?


34 posted on 07/30/2013 8:26:59 AM PDT by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: kevcol

More black people in Florida were helped by Stand Your Ground. Many are alive because of it.

Is this the same logic that makes Leftists want abortion to kill their own babies?


35 posted on 07/30/2013 8:27:14 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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Sybrina Fulton, a 23-year veteran of the county housing authority, County records show Fulton, who earns $68,768 a year

Trayvon Martin's Mom Sybrina Fulton Receives 8 Months Vacation Time Donated By Miami-Dade County Workers

The Miami Herald reports that Sybrina Fulton, a 23-year veteran of the county housing authority, received $40,825 worth of donated vacation time from a 192 colleagues.

The donations to Fulton and Trayvon's aunt, water and sewer customer service rep Yolanda Knight Evans, were made possible by a resolution passed last month allowing county employees to donate up $50,000 in vacation time to any family member of Martin's employed by Miami-Dade County.

The resolution, sponsored by County Commissioners Bruno Barreiro, Barbara Jordan and Jose “Pepe” Diaz, stated it was created because "generous county employees have expressed a desire to contribute their earned holiday and annual leave" to both women.

36 posted on 07/30/2013 8:29:22 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: kevcol

Well meaning morons... Trayvon’s mother is in over her head. She doesn’t have the slightest grasp of the issues concerning these matters. She’s now a flash-in-the-pan celebrity, and that’s all that matters to her.


37 posted on 07/30/2013 8:30:05 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Kill the bill... Begin enforcing our current laws, signed by President Ronald Reagan.)
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To: kevcol

The single biggest mistake this country ever made was allowing the importation of black slave labor. And if you think that’s ancient history, big chicken, hotel, and sheetrock want to do it again with mexicans.


38 posted on 07/30/2013 8:31:35 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: BitWielder1

What ever happened to Cindy Sheehan? The media never talk about her any more. I remember she wrote a book, and even ran for Congress.


39 posted on 07/30/2013 8:32:37 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Zimmerman did not “INSTIGATE” things.

Correction: By approaching Martin and asking him what he was doing there, Zimmerman "instigated" the altercation - at least, in the opinion of most Blacks.

Regards,

40 posted on 07/30/2013 8:32:57 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: BitWielder1
I agree with the Cindy Sheehan thing.  Trayvon's mom will have to work awfully hard to get that "Sea Hag" thing down like Sheehan did though.

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41 posted on 07/30/2013 8:33:05 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Kill the bill... Begin enforcing our current laws, signed by President Ronald Reagan.)
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To: PapaBear3625

You probably got it, there...

They want to use these thugs as their intimidation squads,
and the idea that intimidation squads should use unopposed physical force.


42 posted on 07/30/2013 8:33:25 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: alexander_busek

“dissing”, especially by someone outside the tribe,
requires a beat down in response.


43 posted on 07/30/2013 8:34:11 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Uncle Chip

Well, the liberal view is that Zimmerman should not have gotten out of the car the night he saw Trayvon. To them, that act started the entire incident. And so everything that happened as a result was Zimmerman’s fault. They say that Trayvon was defending himself.

And remember, that girl friend of Trayvon’s said that there was fear that Zimmerman was a homosexual rapist.


44 posted on 07/30/2013 8:34:14 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Lost traction after Obie's election for obvious reasons.

Notice the lack of an Afghanistan body count in the media???

45 posted on 07/30/2013 8:35:10 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: MrB

So, with this dissing business, are we now supposed to adopt ghetto standards into mainstream society?? The concept of dissing is a ghetto thing.


46 posted on 07/30/2013 8:35:17 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Even that girl of Trayvon’s, Rachel, in an interview, said that Trayvon was giving Zimmerman a “whoop ass”, which I assume is some ghetto term for beating someone up and showing someone who is boss.


Yeah. In the suburbs we call it a “Costco sized can of whoop ass.”


47 posted on 07/30/2013 8:37:18 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Yep, it is. It is an artifact of the urban anti-culture.

And, no, we are not going to adopt their anti-cultural standards.

Be armed, be prepared to use it, and avoid/profile to save your life.


48 posted on 07/30/2013 8:38:13 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: kevcol
Don't she realize that blacks who live under constant threat in the 'hood would actually benefit from SYG laws.


49 posted on 07/30/2013 8:38:27 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: kevcol

I think what many people are missing here, because they are sane and rational, is that the facts of the case are not relevant to the target audience for this message. If you are not familiar with the communities to which this message is intended, you might project on those communities that the facts are more important than ethnic solidarity. If you don’t understand cultural differences, you could easily misunderstand how others think. Although the facts don’t remotely match the narrative, the people perpetrating the mythology know that facts are not important. What is important is what team you are on and that all others who are on that team know what point of view is acceptable if individual team members are to avoid ostracism. I know this from pesonal experience.


50 posted on 07/30/2013 8:40:08 AM PDT by iacovatx (Conservatism is the political center--it is not "right" of center)
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