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Indian Motorcycle Takes Aim at Harley-Davidson
Fox Business ^ | 07/19/13 | Matthew Rocco

Posted on 07/30/2013 9:57:46 AM PDT by AtlasStalled

In the decades following its bankruptcy in 1953, Indian Motorcycle was the target of several companies that tried unsuccessfully to revive the storied brand, the leading motorcycle manufacturer of its time.

But now Indian has the financial muscle to make it happen. Polaris (PII), the maker of snowmobiles, all-terrain vehicles and Victory motorcycles, bought Indian in 2011 and is moving at full throttle to bring it back to prominence.

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To: AtlasStalled

Aw heck, I just went back and registered. I remembered that I’d registered at Marlboro’s site years ago, giving them all that info, and still get monthly coupons for $-off cartons of red box regulars. So what the heck.


41 posted on 07/30/2013 10:53:49 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk & spoons make you fat.)
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To: umgud

Seems like Victory is trying to reduce its costs in most models. I think they plan to make most Victories mid range in costs 12k - 16K

For example, they got rid of the Hammer and replaced it with the Judge. In most respects, the Judge is inferior to the Hammer. ***The Hammer they have now is a Hammer eight ball — not as good as the previous Hammer or Hammer S models.

Indians will have premium price < = mid 20ks.

I have an older hammer and love it. 30,000 miles and no problems yet.


42 posted on 07/30/2013 10:58:06 AM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: AtlasStalled

We have a couple of Indian riders that ride with us. The bike reminds me of the Harleys of old. Vibration, marking territory with oil, other mech problems. Sorry but no thanks I’ll stay with my Harley


43 posted on 07/30/2013 11:00:39 AM PDT by clamper1797 (Evil WILL flourish when good men WILL not act)
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To: AtlasStalled; All
Question for the group, from someone who has a very limited knowledge/understanding of motorcycles..

I'd read a while back that Norton has just received certification to sell its bikes in the USA.

How does Norton compare to Indian? They both appear to be at about the same price point. Can the market support TWO competitors? I fully realize that Norton is NOT made in the USA, but both seem to be appealing to the same "throwback" marketing imagery.

Thanks.

44 posted on 07/30/2013 11:05:06 AM PDT by ken5050 (My tagline is on summer break..)
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To: advertising guy
could not GIVE me a Victory bike

Cool, I'll take yours. American bike, cheaper than a Harley, smooth ride, and reliable like a metric. I prefer Honda - I have a 2002 ACE and a 2010 Fury

45 posted on 07/30/2013 11:06:57 AM PDT by Cyclone59 (I wish government would get their heads out of their butts and their noses out of everyones business)
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To: AtlasStalled

Sounds like they’re serious about this. Dropping the price $7,500 will certainly help.


46 posted on 07/30/2013 11:10:21 AM PDT by Hugin (')
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To: ken5050

That was just what I was going to post.


47 posted on 07/30/2013 11:11:58 AM PDT by JaguarXKE (1973: Reporters investigate All the President's Men. 2013: Reporters ARE all the President's men)
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To: ken5050

I don’t know much about Norton except that while watching a series on cafe racer bikes apparently back in the day it was a popular bike which was light and fast for street racing, and it was a favorite among those who liked to strip it down to increase its speed so I presume it was always a pretty good performance bike but others may have more to offer.


48 posted on 07/30/2013 11:12:25 AM PDT by AtlasStalled
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To: Cyclone59

I’ve had 22 Honda’s ...loved the shadow.....this Indian has my attention long as it ain’t as UGLY as a Victory


49 posted on 07/30/2013 11:14:35 AM PDT by advertising guy (Obama....."..Dick Durbin was unable to attend...We love dick ".........We know Barry)
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To: Hammerhead

Agreed, but then I already own an HD RK Classic.


50 posted on 07/30/2013 11:21:16 AM PDT by Gator113
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To: Hammerhead

Victory Vision Street

Husband and wife neighbors have a pair of them in red. Incredibly FUGLY!


51 posted on 07/30/2013 11:26:21 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Gator113

So do I. 2007, black, 12” apes, Sampson fishtails,Corbin solo saddle, etc., chromed, but not over the top.


52 posted on 07/30/2013 11:31:41 AM PDT by Hammerhead
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

eeessshhhh..... : /


53 posted on 07/30/2013 11:35:23 AM PDT by Hammerhead
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To: Hammerhead

You have good tastes. ;>)


54 posted on 07/30/2013 11:36:23 AM PDT by Gator113
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To: 3Fingas

Polaris is tryng to market cool without the substance.

They are selling a “same as HD” campaign.

Instead they should have just dumped the indian brand and made the victory marque a bike anyone could work on and customize.


55 posted on 07/30/2013 11:44:16 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Hammerhead

Frank Zappa would have described the Victory Vision Street with one word,,,,”Bulbous!”


56 posted on 07/30/2013 11:51:26 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: AtlasStalled

They popped up a few years back with a fresh look, fresh and optimistic sales agenda and relatively dependable product. The trouble was...they came in at nearly the same price as their competition...Harley Davidson, and ultimately folded.

Buying a “name”, whether its Indian OR Harley Davidson will only go so far. IF Indian is smart..they will market VERY dependable bikes at prices LOWER than the current HD models. That way they tackle the market with peeps who want to own a “legend” but can’t afford the HD name.

Once the buying public is sold on them, THEN begin to raise the price over time and really kick in the sale of merchandizing, which is really where HD makes their millions.


57 posted on 07/30/2013 12:11:06 PM PDT by NCDragon ( Americans will always do the right thing, after they've exhausted all the alternatives. WC)
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To: AtlasStalled

Now Indian is in its 5th reorganization? I hope Polaris will have sucess with them.


58 posted on 07/30/2013 12:19:43 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (Ben Carson/Rand Paul or Sara/Nikki in 2016)
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To: Tax-chick

“Red hair and black leather, my favorite color scheme”


59 posted on 07/30/2013 12:26:48 PM PDT by duffee (NO poll tax, NO tax on firearms, ammunition or gun safes. NO gun free zones.)
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To: longtermmemmory

Mechanically, IMHO, Victory is a better bike than Harley.

However, I do like your idea of stressing customization.
Victory could tweak their marketing and customization options, they would attract more buyers.

My bike is very customish. I did a special flat black paint job, added stage 2 pipes, added led tail lights, detachable bag mounts, pegs, etc. No modifications to engine or suspension though.


60 posted on 07/30/2013 1:06:24 PM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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