Skip to comments.Vanity, lets do a brainstorm: How do we END property taxes (permanently)?
Posted on 07/30/2013 12:00:05 PM PDT by JSDude1
Ok people here's the problem: Property taxes I am sure you agree are un-American! Why should we ~rent~ our own property from the various government entities rather than owning it outright, for all of time for our personal use/posterity!?
So here's the question: what do we need to do to END PROPERTY TAXES? (I know we are a smart bunch, much smarter than the left-so we CAN get this done, somehow..).
1) First itemize what our property taxes are going to pay for.
2) Get as many of these government functions off of our public books, and into private hands (privatization)
3) We permanently end property taxes, and replace any revenue necessary for the remaining city/municipal functions that can't be privatized with local sales taxes.
Your thoughts, other comments?
1) Take away everybody’s property!...............see how easy that was?.....
Have everybody that does not want property taxes move to locales that don’t have them.
At some point (see Detroit) the remaining property-taxed-to-the-maxed locales go under. The locales that figured it out prosper.
Tax Reform Amendment
Pretty simple actually. Based on the current attitude toward illegal immigration, we simply stop paying them. It will take a few years of myopic, whiney posts about how being punished for not paying property taxes separates families, and scares children, but we can point out, we are avoiding taxes to improve our lives. Congress will be obligated to forgive us, and let us continue not to pay taxes while promising to collect those taxes some time in the future. We might have to pay a $2500.00 fine though.
Ending any funding source that has existed for more than four years will be almost impossible as government programs become immortal. (That’s my fear about Obama-care.) I believe that property taxes were ruled constitutional in the ‘30’s. That means there is no constitutional rationale to stop them. Therefore I suggest that a constitutional amendment. But, I know Republicans (freepers) who feel that rich people should pay their “fair” share and that elderly people and “the poor” shouldn’t have to pay as much property tax. Incidentally, these taxes are supposed to fund education which I believe runs between $14k per student and $28k per student. But the largest property tax for the middle class is probably only a fraction of that, so, where does the additional money come from? (Business.)
Also, there are shared services that homeowners do use, like fire protection and garbage collection. Those would need alternative funding.
The primary thing, though, is to cut down the size and scope of what government does to something like it was in 1920. With the internet and computers why, for example, is it necessary to have the DMV? Assuming that function survives your cut, why isn’t hit subbed out to, say, Wal-Mart?
Beat me to it.
Besides - no one truly owns property anyway. Big Brother will take his share. If you protest - he will take it all.
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Property taxes that go for local infrastructure and protective services are reasonable (not strictly necessary; but reasonable). Streets, sewer and water systems, parks, etc. support property values. Fire and police are essential services — municipal governments aren’t the only way of providing them; but, so long as the costs are contained, they are a “reasonable” use for property taxes.
Property taxes should not be used to fund e.g. social welfare programs. That simply creates a vicious circle; as the more affluent move to escape the taxes, and an increasingly larger proportion of the remaining population are recipients of those services. Detroit is a case in point.
Simply end them.
You pay for what you want. I pay for what I want.
The whole thing gets voted on every 1-2-5 yrs or whatever the voters decide.
The one caveat: If you get paid/maintained/receive taxpayer dollars, you can’t vote. Let the PAYERS decide how much they want to pay, let the moochers be damned.
Property taxes vs sales taxes:
Sales taxes favor the big box store, the Amazon warehouse, the auto dealership - and give poor year to year stability in how much taxes are raised. When your city, and your neighboring city are all seeking the same source of taxation, it becomes ‘whatever the business needs to succeed’. And ultimately, your city becomes dependent upon residents of other cities paying sales taxes in your town - which they won’t do because you charge more sales taxes than neighboring cities.
Property taxes favor the homeowner as housing prices rise with the maintenance of city infrastructure, schools, police and fire.
Of the two systems, property taxes are the way to go. Raising them can make homeowners irate, and they are much more likely to take action, vs raises in sales taxes, whereupon even city residents simply go to neighboring cities to make their purchases.
Hey but we weren't voting very smart anyway, so why waste the dollars on an education if they aren't going to use it. Besides they ain't your kids. Sure you want to live in a society where everyone can read the sign, but not if you have to pay for it. /s
Next is probably funding local municipalities. People who are robbed should pay for the police to investigate. And people whose houses burn down should pay for the fire trucks to keep it from spreading to their neighbors. If they can't pay, lock them up...oh well, someone would have to pay for that. so let's just shoot them, we can set up a voluntary deadbeat elimination ammo fund. There's probably people in your community that would shoot them for free. You can dump the bodies in the river to avoid burial costs. /s
You don't really need all those other city services. Who needs planning? If they build a bar next to my house, that's just more target practice. And building codes.... nobody needs to tell me how to build a house. If it burns down 10 times and takes the neighbor's houses with it, well that's their fault for building too close to me. /s
And some go to county services like sheriffs. But who needs them, that's why we moved out of the city in the first place so we could do what we like. /s
And orphans, well, they should sign a promissory note until they are old enough to work and then they should have to pay back every dime with interest. /s
By the way, property taxes are probably the oldest tax in America. Funny you should think they are un-American.
Tarring and feathering a few hundred tax collectors is an oldie but goodie.
Property tax is ok if:
Make all buildings by the sq. ft. all no farm land by the acre. People will be able to make home improvements without seeing their taxes go up. The ghetto property will still have to pay or sell to someone who will fix it up or demolish it. Quit punishing success and subsidizing failure.
Great idea! Maybe you could point out an American locale that DOESN'T have property taxes...
Abolish government schrools. That gets rid of half of property taxes.
Fixed it for you.
Stealing your property after several years because of unpaid property taxes is a VERY recent development - within the last several decades.
I don't like renting my paid-off property from the government. Do you?
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