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Obama: The Keystone pipeline is “not a jobs plan,” you know (Says it creates just 50 permanent jobs)
Hotair ^ | 07/30/2013 | Erika Johnsen

Posted on 07/30/2013 7:54:56 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

So… is that kind of like how aggressively pushing for federal, i.e. taxpayer “investment” in public-sector infrastructure projects but actively blocking private-sector ones is “not a jobs plan”? Or, maybe it’s more along the basic lines of how more Keynesian stimulus, deficit spending, increased regulation, and top-down market interference is “not a jobs plan”? Yeah, I think that’s the one.

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If they’ve got a better plan to bring back more manufacturing jobs here to Tennessee and around the country, then let them know — let me know. I want to hear them. If they’ve got a better plan to create jobs rebuilding our infrastructure or to help workers earn the high-tech skills that they need, then they should offer up these ideas. But I’ve got to tell you, just gutting our environmental protection, that’s not a jobs plan. Gutting investments in education, that’s not a jobs plan. They keep on talking about this — an oil pipeline coming down from Canada that’s estimated to create about 50 permanent jobs — that’s not a jobs plan. Wasting the country’s time by taking something like 40 meaningless votes to repeal Obamacare is not a jobs plan. That’s not a jobs plan.

Ah, yes — the oh-so-typical refrains of how Republicans just hate the environment and their only proffered solution is to simply slash at the government spending that our economy so obviously needs at its current and preferably an even higher level. The biggest takeaway from that perfidious little moment, however, was that the president doubled down on his claim that the Keystone XL pipeline will only create a handful of jobs — a claim that he knows full well takes some mighty conspicuous liberties with the truth.

In citing the 50-jobs number, though, the president was using the smallest possible number attached to the pipeline project. The estimate he used likely refers to a State Department finding that — after the pipeline is built — it would take roughly 50 people to maintain it.

But the comment ignores the rest of the State Department report that estimates the project would create nearly 4,000 annual construction jobs — and potentially “support” an annual 42,000 jobs.

Obama similarly ignored those findings during an interview he gave recently to The New York Times. In the interview, Obama said the project would create roughly 2,000 construction jobs and maybe 100 additional jobs after that — calling it a “blip relative to the need.”

Glenn Kessler at the Washington Post took President Obama to task for the claim as well, and I just can’t manage to get over the fact that not only has the Obama administration approved similar projects for oil-and-gas-pipelines elsewhere in the United States, but also that the president took the opportunity during his speech to also talk up natural gas as the great and cleaner-burning fuel that it is. If the president does indeed want to continue to foster the shale-gas boom and the jobs that come from domestic energy production, we’re going to need a lot more pipeline infrastructure — stat.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Canada; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: carbontax; energy; jobs; kenyanbornmuzzie; keystone; obama; opec; pipeline

1 posted on 07/30/2013 7:54:56 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: All

Who cares? That’s fifty more (non-government) jobs than you’ve created!


2 posted on 07/30/2013 7:56:27 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Uh, huh. How many “permanent” jobs did the $787B stimulus bill create?


3 posted on 07/30/2013 7:56:37 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: SeekAndFind

does anyone still take this clown seriously?


4 posted on 07/30/2013 7:58:07 PM PDT by RC one
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To: SeekAndFind

40,000 Direct jobs & 100,000 indirect jobs, Mr. anti-capitalist, anti-energy, anti-American, economic illiterate.


5 posted on 07/30/2013 7:58:18 PM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: thackney

Ping.


6 posted on 07/30/2013 7:58:19 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: SeekAndFind

So, 50 more than Solandra?


7 posted on 07/30/2013 7:58:20 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: SeekAndFind

He got the Prince Allweedy memo.


8 posted on 07/30/2013 7:59:15 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks SeekAndFind.

The Obama Tax Hikes

to go with

The Obama Recession


9 posted on 07/30/2013 7:59:39 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

10 posted on 07/30/2013 8:00:36 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind; All


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11 posted on 07/30/2013 8:02:32 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: SeekAndFind

Okay. Let me get this straight. The Keystone Pipeline is not a “jobs plan” but ObamaCare is. Doh! Pelosi and Reid keep telling us about all the jobs ObamaCare is going to “create”. Lots of shovel-ready undertaker jobs will be created.


12 posted on 07/30/2013 8:02:56 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Let's make it our turn in 2014. Vote early and VOTE OFTEN.)
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To: SeekAndFind

One of the selling points the Wind Farm proponents always tout, is the “hundred of local jobs” that involved when Big Wind comes to your little town.

A few hundred temporary jobs, most specialized and from out of state, and a grand total of 8 permanent jobs for 150 industrial turbines. Pay from $15.00 to $32.00/hr


13 posted on 07/30/2013 8:06:14 PM PDT by digger48
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To: rbg81
152 jobs when you count the union stewards who needed to be hire to protect the 51 teachers and local fireman workers. You need to remember that they planed on the 51 workers loosing their jobs after the stimulus money ran out.. then they would need the 100 stewards to file grievances for teachers and fireman loosing their jobs.....

The horror, the horror...
14 posted on 07/30/2013 8:07:22 PM PDT by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS... We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? The Dems care!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
From Forbes Magazine:

The Keystone XL Pipeline project is owned by TransCanada, a Canadian corporation which builds, maintains, and owns oil and gas pipelines, power plants, and natural gas storage facilities in North America.  TransCanada already owns the Keystone Pipeline which runs in two branches from Alberta to both Nebraska and Illinois.  The proposed Keystone XL Pipeline would follow a direct route from Alberta through Montana and South Dakota to Nebraska and then continue through Kansas and Oklahoma to the refineries in Texas along the Gulf Coast.  This new pipeline would ideally transport crude petroleum recovered from the Alberta tar sands and from North Dakota shale fields.  This petroleum contains more sulfur and requires additional refining which can be completed in Houston refineries.

The chart below compares some of the key facts of these two pipeline projects.

Trans-Alaska Pipeline (actual)

Keystone XL Pipeline

(proposal)

Length

800 miles

1,179 miles

Maximum capacity in barrels per day

2.1 million BPD

830,000 BDP

Pipe diameter

48 inch

36 inch

Estimated cost before construction

$900 million

$5.3 billion

Actual cost

$8 billion

Construction time

3 years 2 months

2 years

Starting point

Prudhoe Bay, Alaska

Hardisty, Alberta

Termination

Valdez, Alaska

Houston, Texas

Employment Estimates

Estimates for job creation statistics for the Trans-Alaska Pipeline’s construction continued to fluctuate from the time it was first planned until the labor was set.  In March of 1973, Alyeska estimated that the pipeline would employ 26,000 people in construction jobs.  These numbers were later dropped significantly to 18,000 construction jobs in October 1973.  By January of 1974, once union contracts for the labor had been negotiated, Alyeska estimated that “perhaps 13,000” jobs would be created, “at its peak.”  During the summer of 1974, when initial work on the pipeline was just getting started, the labor force was estimated to grow to more than 14,000 workers by the following spring, when the pipe-laying would begin.  When the company began hiring in earnest in March 1975, they estimated that between 14,000 and 18,000 workers would be required that summer.  The chart below shows the fluctuations in job predictions for construction workers preceding hiring.

 

In reality, Alyeska employed 21,000 workers during peak construction in the summers of 1975 and 1976.  Despite the fact that Alyeska kept dropping its estimated job numbers, the company employed more workers then all their prediction except for the first.  By numbers hired, the project was a huge success.  But, how do these estimates compare to the proposed Keystone XL Pipeline, and what does this teach us?

The table below illustrates the fluctuations in construction worker job predictions for three different sources: Trans-Canada, the U.S. federal government, and a study conducted by a the Global Labor Institute at Cornell University’s College of Industrial and Labor Relations.  Trans-Canada’s job predictions follow a generally similar path to Alyeska’s, in which the job estimates tend to decrease as the project approaches its start date.


15 posted on 07/30/2013 8:08:23 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Lyin’ just come natural to him.


16 posted on 07/30/2013 8:10:27 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ll be happy to take one of those “50 jobs”


17 posted on 07/30/2013 8:10:35 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (E)
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To: SeekAndFind

well Obama’s Saudi friends told him to kill it


18 posted on 07/30/2013 8:11:07 PM PDT by molson209 (Hillary Clinton)
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To: SeekAndFind

Impeachment File on Benghazi Coward “B. Hussein Obama,” formerly known as Barry Soetoro, currently a Legal Citizen of the Sovereign Nation of Indonesia.


19 posted on 07/30/2013 8:12:59 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Let’s use our common sense shall we?

This megaproject will stretch 1,661 miles from Alberta to Texas’s Gulf Coast region. Immediately upon completion, the pipeline will have the capacity to carry 700,000 barrels per day (bpd) and ultimately the ability to transport 900,000 bpd.

The ability to move an additional 900,000 bpd to refineries won’t have the effect of lowering gas prices?

In fact, the Keystone XL pipeline will give our country a more stable and cheaper source of fuel and create thousands of quality American jobs. And taxpayers (think Solyndra) will not risk a dime.

Think of the public-policy benefits of the project, the sound private economics aside.

The United States currently consumes 25% of the world’s energy, but produces less than 5 percent. Heavily dependent on foreign oil, America imports 11 million barrels each day.

This need for foreign oil isn’t going to change anytime soon. The 2010 Annual Energy Outlook projects that over 40 percent of U.S. liquid fuel consumption will be supplied by imports through 2035. Global demand for oil will only rise too — 39% between 2005 and 2030.

Also note that oil imports to the United States from South America aren’t holding steady. Mexico and Venezuela, two historically large exporters of crude oil, have radically reduced production in the past few years, making imports from Canada that much more essential.

A new influx of up to 700,000 bpd from Canada will dramatically increase U.S supplies and in turn drive gas prices down. A study from Energy Policy Research Foundation found a greater supply of Canadian oil could save Gulf Coast refiners almost $500 million annually in transport costs, which, in turn, would mean lower prices for consumers at the pump.

Keystone XL’s impact on cost is simple: a supply of plentiful and easily accessible oil drives down prices for gasoline and other consumer staples.


20 posted on 07/30/2013 8:15:41 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: faithhopecharity

RE: I’ll be happy to take one of those “50 jobs”

What does America need more of? Jobs financed by the private sector? Or bubble jobs created by government subsidies? Jobs that generate tax revenue? Or jobs that cost $1.3 million in government loans each (see Solar energy projects funded by DOE).

According to the Canadian Energy Research Institute, by 2019 employment directly related to Keystone XL could grow from 80,000 jobs to 179,000. If the flow of Canadian oil through the United States remains unchanged, however, total employment from the Keystone line will peak at 94,000 in 2019.

The respected Perryman Group found that across the entire economy, an increase in stable oil supplies would create 250,348 permanent jobs from gains in U.S. economic activity. Personal income gains from these jobs would amount to $6.5 billion, stimulating $2.3 billion of retail sales.

So, Obama’s projections for employment are so low one wonders who gave him that number : “50 jobs”...


21 posted on 07/30/2013 8:18:37 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Says it creates just 50 permanent jobs


The same can be said for the 1-10 Freeway.


22 posted on 07/30/2013 8:19:36 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: SeekAndFind

Reggie Love got it for him.


23 posted on 07/30/2013 8:20:58 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: SeekAndFind

We’re going to need the oil, though.


24 posted on 07/30/2013 8:21:50 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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He’s just pissed because his namesake-care call centers got busted shafting people with no benefits.


25 posted on 07/30/2013 8:21:53 PM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: rbg81

Exactly my thought. Daughter visiting from another state. I was telling her about a main road in our community that a good amount of stimulus money was used to plant trees and shrubs. Those jobs redefined “short term” jobs. Maybe weeks if that!!! Keystone Pipeline will create good paying jobs for at least several years. Why is that so bad?


26 posted on 07/30/2013 8:22:32 PM PDT by Fran B (Love!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama is a very sick man rotten to the core. That project would create tens of thousands of solid jobs and bring billions into the economy.

And he pisses on it like the deranged leftist he is.

Your family doesn’t need that lousy job, Obama said so after shooting hoops and admiring himself in the mirror.

From the republicans: crickets.


27 posted on 07/30/2013 8:23:52 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: SeekAndFind
"If the president does indeed want to continue to foster the shale-gas boom..."

Writers have exaggerated much about that. Oil-bearing shale is a good thing, but the Bakken Formation could yield up to about 7.4 billion barrels of oil from oil-bearing shale (US Geological Survey, April, 2013). At 18 million barrels per day (little less than what our U.S. consumption has presently declined to), that would keep our USA going for about 411 days. We'll need all of the oil that we can get, including Canadian oil.


28 posted on 07/30/2013 8:24:55 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: SeekAndFind
>...gutting our environmental protection

Lying ##$%^&&*&. It will do nothing of the sort. The environment will not even noticer the pipeline. He's doing this to help his buddy who is shipping oil by rail.

29 posted on 07/30/2013 8:26:50 PM PDT by Steve1789 (I miss having a president who loves this country.)
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To: SeekAndFind

He’s stalling on the Keystone XL pipeline, BTW, for very influential constituents who don’t want any more business competition or lower oil prices. As seen in many local government meetings here and there, the environmentalist thing is only a front.


30 posted on 07/30/2013 8:27:48 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama has not one clue about how the economy works, or how jobs are created. If it isn’t a wasteful government project, it doesn’t register on his little brain.


31 posted on 07/30/2013 8:27:51 PM PDT by pallis
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To: rockrr
Who cares? That’s fifty more (non-government) jobs than you’ve created!>

It couldn't be clearer that he has no interest in creating jobs.

32 posted on 07/30/2013 8:37:15 PM PDT by Steve1789 (I miss having a president who loves this country.)
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To: RC one

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


33 posted on 07/30/2013 8:41:22 PM PDT by funfan
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To: pallis
If it isn’t a wasteful government project, it doesn’t register on his little brain.

Worth repeating.

34 posted on 07/30/2013 8:44:04 PM PDT by Steve1789 (I miss having a president who loves this country.)
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To: RC one

Oh, can 0 really be this stupid?


35 posted on 07/30/2013 8:50:32 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Obama the bully who belittles success, in this case 50 full time jobs....

Made-by-Obama Cliff Debate Hides Jobless Toll ....

36 posted on 07/30/2013 8:52:16 PM PDT by yoe ("They Come To America" order it now: http://www.theycometoamerica.com/buy-dvd/)
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To: SeekAndFind; Clive; exg; Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; Byron_the_Aussie; ...
To all- please ping me to Canadian topics.

Canada Ping!

37 posted on 07/30/2013 8:52:50 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (I'd give up chocolate but I'm no quitter)
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To: SeekAndFind
As Obama dithers, Canada moves on other options
38 posted on 07/30/2013 8:54:35 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (I'd give up chocolate but I'm no quitter)
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To: SeekAndFind

Pathetic! A gone who believes that bilge is pathetic as well!


39 posted on 07/30/2013 8:54:41 PM PDT by vpintheak (We are the the God blessed chosen few! Be thankful for it!)
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To: SeekAndFind
First of all, the guy's astonishingly stupid, we all know that, and he -- and more importantly his handlers -- seem more and more obviously concerned about that.

Second, and most importantly, I have noticed that the Democrats/Liberals absolutely hate anything that will energize the traditional engineering and manufacturing segment of the economy. They love the solar/wind/ pie in the sky stuff, but they shake in their boots when good, solid, American muscle will be set loose.

They did the same thing after 9/11 when the country got behind its soldiers, firemen, policemen and other defenders. They could not stand a country with heroes, and worked to undermine it.

The obvious conclusion is they do not want a strong America, in any way, shape or form.

The next anti-liberal, anti-Democrat candidate for President needs to not only come out swinging, but keep swinging all the way through. COMPLETELY ignore the Leftist media -- which means do NOT, EVER, respond to them at all -- go to the people, keep it between you and the people, and you will win. No doubt.

40 posted on 07/30/2013 9:21:56 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: JennysCool

when have liberals worried about permanent jobs?


41 posted on 07/30/2013 9:26:27 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: SeekAndFind

If you can find out who owns the mineral rights to the wells named Stanley A and Stanley D in Kansas we might know why he is against the pipeline!!


42 posted on 07/31/2013 12:14:55 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then)
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To: SeekAndFind

43 posted on 07/31/2013 1:39:00 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: yoe

I can’t stand to even lay my eyes on this evil things face. I feel dirty.


44 posted on 07/31/2013 9:17:29 AM PDT by Sheapdog (Chew the meat, spit out the bones)
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To: combat_boots

LOL


45 posted on 07/31/2013 3:36:23 PM PDT by Yardstick
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