Posted on 07/31/2013 10:56:43 AM PDT by nickcarraway
If the Senate immigration bill came up for a vote in the House, it would probably pass — some of the Republicans and almost all of the Democrats would combine for 218 votes. But conservatives have extracted promises from John Boehner not to let that happen, and the Speaker has dutifully pledged to keep the House from voting on any bill that lacks the support of most Republicans.
That would seem to make comprehensive reform pretty dead, right? Except Paul Ryan, who clearly wants to pass a bill, floated a way around this promise:
QUESTIONER: One of the biggest frustrations we’re seeing right now is hearing Speaker Boehner, that he’s going to follow the Hastert Rule. That he’s not going to bring any of these bills forward unless they have a majority support of the majority party. What’s your position, should you maintain that?
RYAN: [...] Bringing these bills to the floor, we’ll find out. It is not, “they don’t come to the floor unless we have a majority of the majority,” because we don’t know if we have a majority until we vote on it. So here’s where I see things going. I’ve spoken to John Boehner as recently as three days ago about this, which is, we all agree it is better to legislate in stages instead of one big thousand plus page bill that no one has read. [...] I’m trying to get to a consensus so a majority of us do support those component parts. I believe that’s achievable because when people really look at the details and they focus on what’s right, I believe what I’ve just laid out is something that a consensus of Republicans and Democrats can agree to.
Ryan is saying here that you can't know if Republicans support a bill until you actually hold the vote. I mean, you could ask them, but hey, who knows? Maybe they'll change their minds! Or maybe they'll try to vote against the bill but vote for it by accident. It happens. So the plan he's discussing here apparently would be to bring some bills to the floor and then find out if most Republicans support them. Of course, the likely outcome is that they discover that an overwhelming majority of Republicans really don't like the bill and vote against it, but it gets 200 Democratic votes and passes, by which point it's too late.
Are conservatives dumb enough to be fooled by this? I really doubt it. Is Ryan even going to try to fool them in such a ham-fisted way? I doubt that too. So why is he even floating this? Is he that desperate?
GOP is determined to commit suicide, and in so doing, doom the republic.
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oh,and:
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The GOP helped kill the Republic. This would be the final nail in the coffin.
Hey, Ryan, how about spending your time on coming up with another “Roadmap” that balances the budget in about 40 years and forget about amnesty. You’ll do less damage that way.
GOP is determined to commit suicide
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And THAT is their #1 priority.
I figure Ryan will net between 5-10 million for his trason. Could be more.
treason
They’re in recess.
Picket in front of their house.
False urgency - just like Obamacare.
If the (Obama controlled) FBI plays you a “visit” laying down the law.. WHO KNOWS how you might VOTE?..
Ryan going all John McLame on you.... or John McLame going all MAxine Waters on you can be explained..
Its might be the old “GODFATHER” ploy..
You know.. “An offer you cannot refuse”..
A visit from the IRS, or the EPA condemning some of your property.. OR a hidden “SIN” or two..
Or even suicide with a bullet to the back of your head.. i.e. Vince Foster.. or a relative you love..
The question is “from where?”
There’s no doubt there’s a payoff somewhere, via some anonymous Citizen’s United laundering scheme.
What’s the odds that Romney did a Vulcan Mind Meld on Ryan?
It seems that somewhere along the way he suddenly got stupid.
Why would one not think this, especially since we are more corrupt than any other so-called free country.
I've read the big Republican donors are demanding "immigration" be passed lest a Republican never be elected again. Immigration of course is DC code for amnesty.
Have lefties taken control of the Republicans in DC by way of campaign donations? With the overtness and magnitude of the scandals afoot, it seems like the left is going for the kill shot on the conservative right in this country. Once amnesty passes, I think they will have succeeded. We won't see a Republican President or Majority in either house (think Detroit) until blood is shed.
” I’ve read the big Republican donors are demanding “immigration” be passed lest a Republican never be elected again.”
Anyone who buys this LIE is probably too stupid to survive.
If anything, the opposite is true.
The Chamber of Commerce
Home builders
Banks(high interest loans to illiterate slobs)
Other companies who benefit from cheap labor.....are buying Republicans
I want you to know ryan... that I will back every Conservative that challenges you until we retire your traitorous liberal republican ass from Congress.
Why would one not think this, especially since we are more corrupt than any other so-called free country.
Correction; are becoming AS CORRUPT.. not more corrupt..
As the U.S. DEPORTS GOD(the generic one).. it slides down the slippery slope..
What slope?... The slippery slope of corruption..
Bribery has ALWAYS been culturally significant in other places.. NOT so in the U.S..
The Christian Work Ethic and... all that..
Workers are NOW bribed with a minimum wage..
And federal workers(and states) are bribed with a lavish lifestyle in retirement..
as Unions parasitize the economy..
There won’t be any blood shed.
When the peasants start feeling the next wave of economic bites, watch for a ramping-up in violent sports and things like animal-killing programs or dangerous wild animal shows. These are for the working-class as a dangling mobile is for an infant.
Football—basketball-hockey: noise, colorful movement, violence...
Dazzling them with sports! Sports!! SPORTS!!! has been working very well so far.
It’s official.
I want to be bought.
I’m taking bids.
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