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California Attorney General to Feds: No Handguns For You
calgunlaws.com ^ | 29 July, 2013 | cdmichel

Posted on 07/31/2013 10:59:25 AM PDT by marktwain

Apparently, Attorney General (AG) Kamala Harris has changed California State Department of Justice policy and is now limiting federal law enforcement agents’ ability to acquire handguns. The AG says the feds can only buy firearms listed on the Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale (like the rest of us).

Understandably, federal law enforcement officers aren’t happy about it. Welcome feds, to the California disarmament festival.

California law restricts the types of handguns people can acquire through licensed firearm dealers (PC 32000). As backwards as it sounds, before most Californians can acquire a handgun, that firearm must not be considered “unsafe.” To not be considered “unsafe,” handguns must pass performance tests and have certain features that (in theory only) make the firearms allegedly safer (PC 31910). Most problematic for the California public is the recent development that before any semiautomatic pistol can be added to the Roster of guns approved for sale they must be equipped with “microstamping” technology (PC 31910(b)(7)). Starting a couple months ago, this easily circumvented engraving technology is now required on new semiautomatic pistols before they can be added to the approved roster (pistols submitted for safety testing when “microstamping” was certified, on May 17, 2013, can still be added to the Roster).

California citizens are just as frustrated as federal law enforcement officers with the situation. When the roster of available pistols they can purchase dwindles down to a limited few – because manufacturers are refusing to implement “microstamping” – federal law enforcement’s objections will grow louder. And if pending legislation (SB 293) concerning “smart guns” passes and is signed by the Governor, federal law enforcement will also be forced to choose from an even more limited number of models … just like civilians.

Forgive us mere civilians if we aren’t completely sympathetic to the plight of the feds.

The Feds predicament stems from a recent (and correct) change in the Attorney General’s interpretation of existing California law. While California law restricts the sale of “unsafe handguns” by dealers, there are some exceptions to the restriction. The exception used by most law enforcement agencies and officers, and the one used until recently by federal law enforcement officers, was the following:

The sale or purchase of any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person, if the pistol, revolver, or other firearm is sold to, or purchased by, the Department of Justice, any police department, any sheriff’s official, any marshal’s office, the Youth and Adult Correctional Agency, the California Highway Patrol, any district attorney’s office, or the military or naval forces of this state or of the United States for use in the discharge of their official duties. Nor shall anything in this section prohibit the sale to, or purchase by, sworn members of these agencies of any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person.

Pen. Code, § 32000(b)(4)

You might notice, as did the California’s Attorney General, that federal law enforcement officers are not mentioned in this exception! The “Department of Justice” referred to in this section is the California Department of Justice, not a federal agency. So the AG’s analysis is correct: federal law enforcement is not exempt from the “unsafe handgun” restriction.

Welcome to the party guys! Don’t drop your soap.

Hey, maybe the feds can try to take advantage of a number of other exceptions to “unsafe handgun” sales restriction.The private party exception (PC 32110(a)) allows “unsafe handguns” to be transferred between two individuals who reside in California. That works sometimes. In fact, maybe federal law enforcement officers can convince their friends in the Sacramento Sheriff’s Office or Los Angeles Police Department to purchase firearms on their behalf, as a few officers from those agencies have been doing. But oops, turns out that’s illegal. (See the following links concerning the federal criminal case filed against members of the Sacramento Sheriff’s Department, and articles concerning the LAPD illegal transfers).

http://ow.ly/nkKjQ

http://ow.ly/nkKmv

http://ow.ly/nkKpw

Okay, if that won’t work maybe the federal officers can take advantage of the “single shot pistol” exception (PC 32100). Some civilians have tried this, by finding a single shot version of “unsafe handguns” they want to acquire, then modifying it after purchase. This voids the warranty, but we do suggest that feds buy these before the legislature closes this exception as well (AB 169 is currently in the appropriations “suspense file” but may be brought back at any time).

No doubt this screwing of federal agents will be “fixed” by the legislature when and if federal law enforcement agencies find a state politician with a compassionate ear. Despite the law’s potential change, the question remains: why is law enforcement allowed special privileges to acquire firearms to defend themselves and their families when the general public can’t acquire the same firearms? We are all at risk. So why limit anyone’s right to access the best tools to defend themselves and their families? Why the double-standard?

Barring those few exceptions we, the self-defense civil rights activists of California, welcome federal law enforcement officers to the State of California disarmament festival. We thank them for their service. We look forward to them joining us in the limited exercise of our Second Amendment rights, or fighting for its expansion … for all of us!


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; ca; federalagents; guncontrol; secondamendment
This is the inverse of nullification of federal gun laws. The California AG seems to be claiming that she has authority to determine what handguns federal agents are allowed to have. Note that there are no microstamped handguns yet. Should be a fun case.
1 posted on 07/31/2013 10:59:25 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

I think she’s from that infamous sanctuary state of San Francisco just like the former mayor is now Lt. Gov. Is there anyway Cal can increase the amount of caca we are already in?


2 posted on 07/31/2013 11:01:39 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: marktwain

The feds will simply claim federal supremacy and bring in guns from other states.


3 posted on 07/31/2013 11:07:02 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: marktwain

“Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry” -Thomas Jefferson

ALL law enforcement should be required to follow ALL crazy gun laws.


4 posted on 07/31/2013 11:08:31 AM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: marktwain

Other states should do this to federal agents, as well.

IRS, etc. need to be disarmed.


5 posted on 07/31/2013 11:11:49 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: thorvaldr

ALL law enforcement should be required to follow ALL crazy laws. All the crazy laws us peons have to.


6 posted on 07/31/2013 11:11:56 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

That’s my guess too, but if they live in CA they physically have to go outside of CA to get them.


7 posted on 07/31/2013 11:16:41 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: marktwain

Good. what’s sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.


8 posted on 07/31/2013 11:20:51 AM PDT by ZULU ((See: http://gatesofvienna.net/) Obama, do you hear me?)
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To: marktwain
Why doesn't someone in CA challenge the law in Federal court?

This clearly violates the 2nd amendment and the commerce clause.

9 posted on 07/31/2013 11:24:16 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Beagle8U

“Why doesn’t someone in CA challenge the law in Federal court?”

This would be someone who has half a million dollars to spend?


10 posted on 07/31/2013 11:32:38 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: marktwain

Sounds reasonable considering enforcement of federal laws is old school way of thinking; “we new school now”


11 posted on 07/31/2013 11:33:19 AM PDT by WinMod70
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To: marktwain

Cut off all federal spending to the state. Today.


12 posted on 07/31/2013 11:37:36 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
The feds will simply claim federal supremacy and bring in guns from other states.

That will work for Government Issue duty side arms only.

This article deals with personal firearms.

13 posted on 07/31/2013 11:39:13 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Gen.Blather

NRA and GOA should be able to provide defense council.


14 posted on 07/31/2013 11:40:10 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: marktwain

Wow..
Have to admit, I’d be for getting rid of all guns. Feds and Cops start first, of course..


15 posted on 07/31/2013 11:42:50 AM PDT by In Another Time... (..In another place...)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Originally for the Brits but it works just as well for California...


16 posted on 07/31/2013 12:11:05 PM PDT by skimbell
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To: HiTech RedNeck

It’s not like they can just jump on a government owned jet and fly to Las Vegas and buy them with a government credit card. Oh, wait, yes it is.


17 posted on 07/31/2013 12:35:50 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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