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John McCain: We Might Drop Those 20,000 New Border Patrol Agents We Promised
Townhall ^ | 07/31/2013 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 07/31/2013 12:23:57 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

As the House of Representatives prepares to take up the issue of illegal immigration, the Senate is already prepping for conference negotiations with John McCain taking the lead.

It turns out, some of the most crucial aspects of border enforcement already passed by the Senate, including the addition of 20,000 new Border Patrol agents, are likely to be negotiated away, proving once again that the Gang of 8 was a complete sham.

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) signaled Tuesday that the dramatic boost in border-security in the Senate’s comprehensive immigration bill could be one of the provisions that may be changed in a potential House-Senate compromise.
During an immigration forum hosted by the AFL-CIO Tuesday, McCain – a key Senate Gang of Eight negotiator – said while a pathway to citizenship for the nation’s undocumented immigrants is a “fundamental element” of the bill, the “rest of it could be adjusted.” He singled out the border security parts as an example.

“We don’t need 20,000 additional border patrol agents,” McCain said Tuesday. “But what we do need is use of technology that has been developed where we can survey the border more effectively.”

The border-security provisions in the Gang of Eight bill, written by Republican Sens. Bob Corker of Tennessee and John Hoeven of North Dakota, would set aside more than $46 billion to double the number of border patrol agents along the southwestern U.S. boundary, add new surveillance technology and to complete the 700-mile border fence.

In case you missed it, Breitbart News recently proved why we in fact do need more Border Patrol agents and better security along the southern border with Mexico.

CLICK ABOVE LINK FOR THE VIDEO

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Currently, a bipartisan "Gang of 7" is working to present an immigration plan. Details of what they're working on a thin, but many fear border security provisions will be far from sufficient, resulting in amnesty with little enforcement for more than 11 million illegal immigrants.

Broadly, going to conference means losing control of the legislation – meaning pro-amnesty lawmakers will gain control.  Even under the best case scenario, House conservatives trying to steer away from amnesty will be a distinct minority on any conference committee. They’d be pared with pro-amnesty Democrats from the House and Senate and pro-amnesty Republicans in the Senate.  The deck would be stacked to deliver an amnesty plan that closely resembles the Senate’s Gang of Eight bill. 
Congress heads into August recess on Friday and will hear from constituents back at home about this very issue. Debate and details about a plan will most likely emerge in September when lawmakers return to Capitol Hill.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderpatrol; borderwars; collaborator; immigration; johnmccain; mccain; security

1 posted on 07/31/2013 12:23:57 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
John left his soul at the Hanoi Hilton.
2 posted on 07/31/2013 12:26:00 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: SeekAndFind

A fool believes the promise of a politician.


3 posted on 07/31/2013 12:26:31 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Steely Tom

Sarah Palin’s biggest political problem now may be that she campaigned to re-elect this guy.


4 posted on 07/31/2013 12:29:53 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind

Voters of Arizona, you got some splainin' to do.

5 posted on 07/31/2013 12:29:55 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: SeekAndFind
We're on to the game Johnny boy. Once our side delivers the goods, your side withholds payment. This is way anybody with any sense will make YOU deliver first.

Let's see if you will agree to legalize one high school valedictorian for every gang banger permanently deported. My guess is that you'll run out of valedictorians to legalize long before we run out of gang bangers.

6 posted on 07/31/2013 12:30:10 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think it is beyond time we tell el heffe here, he is no longer in the GOP. He is free to caucus with the dems.


7 posted on 07/31/2013 12:30:22 PM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: SeekAndFind

Does this surprise anyone? Why can’t this oxygen thief be decompensated?


8 posted on 07/31/2013 12:30:27 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: SeekAndFind

Drop McLame!


9 posted on 07/31/2013 12:32:27 PM PDT by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: SeekAndFind

http://www.johnspeedie.com/healy/chicken.wav


10 posted on 07/31/2013 12:33:22 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: SeekAndFind

How ‘bout we drop McCain instead?!?!


11 posted on 07/31/2013 12:34:35 PM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: SeekAndFind
John, you're getting senile. The plan is get the House Republicans to vote for it and then stab them in the back by removing the border guards. If you stab them before the vote they might take it personally and not vote with you.

Even for a RINO he's gone maverick.

12 posted on 07/31/2013 12:36:28 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (This message has been recorded but not approved by Obama's StasiNet. Read it at your peril.)
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To: FReepers; Patriots; FRiends






Purple Union tie, no less.

Call him home, Cindy, then put him in a rest home.

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13 posted on 07/31/2013 12:38:02 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: SeekAndFind

When it comes to the vital issues... there really isn’t a whit’s worth of difference between McCain and Obama.

I’m glad to see Sarah Palin didn’t have to chafe through four years of this demented old POS.


14 posted on 07/31/2013 12:38:10 PM PDT by ScottinVA (If you don't care about Antonio Santiago, sure as hell don't whine about Trayvon Martin.)
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To: SeekAndFind
We already knew that, Johnny.

You've been screwing us over for a long, long time.

15 posted on 07/31/2013 12:38:43 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: SeekAndFind
"You can't hide, Marco. We can still see you."

"No you can't."

"I'm pretty sure that we can."


16 posted on 07/31/2013 12:40:06 PM PDT by Iron Munro (They Old. That's Old School People. We In A New School, Our Generation)
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To: SeekAndFind

After all they’re just moving targets for our Criminal Monopoly Cartel Drug Syndicate!


17 posted on 07/31/2013 12:40:53 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall With no one to raise him up; And I will set)
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To: SeekAndFind


And then McCain said...


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18 posted on 07/31/2013 12:41:59 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Kill the bill... Begin enforcing our current laws, signed by President Ronald Reagan.)
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To: SeekAndFind

John, it is not a threat if you were never going to use them as intended in any event.

You and your ilk are a bunch of untruthful individuals only valuing power above the good of the country, and I, for one, am sick and tired of your bullshit.

You are not a representative of the people of Mexico who seek entry into the country, you are a representative of the citizens of this nation, and its time you started doing your job and fulfilling your Constitutional responsibilities.


19 posted on 07/31/2013 12:42:11 PM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I’m waiting for her to denounce this disgraceful POS, or at least to denounce his positions on immigration, budget, foreign interventions, etc. But she won’t.


20 posted on 07/31/2013 12:42:16 PM PDT by clintonh8r (white Caucasian)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

She owed a debt. She was honorable to pay back that debt to a dishonorable man.


21 posted on 07/31/2013 12:48:29 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: SeekAndFind

So much for making the Southern border of the United States the most secure border since the Berlin Wall...

You know the big difference between the US/Mexican Border and the Berlin Wall? The guards at the Berlin Wall would shoot anybody trying to cross. Now, if we authorized the use of deadly force against anybody invading our country from the South, we could secure the US/Mexican border by the end of the week. Illegal crossings would drop to zero overnight.

The funny thing is, enforcing the border with deadly force would probably reduce the number of border-related deaths, because there would not be so many immigrants wandering around in the desert or putting themselves at the mercy of smugglers.


22 posted on 07/31/2013 12:50:03 PM PDT by Haiku Guy (Gun Control Haiku: Say "Registration" / And they call you paranoid / So say "Privacy")
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To: SeekAndFind

McCain may be the first and only soldier to fight for the country, so he could later destroy it.


23 posted on 07/31/2013 12:50:54 PM PDT by Mich Patriot (PITCH BLACK is the new "transparent")
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To: SeekAndFind

Any question as to why we want a fence?


24 posted on 07/31/2013 12:57:23 PM PDT by gogeo (I didn't leave the Republcan Party, it left me.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What we need is a systematic program that discourages illegals from coming here and employeers from hiring them.

1) Tax law - Impose a tax penalty for anyone or any business that hires illegals. Allow the use of E-verify as reasonable effort to verify legal employment.

2) Require the IRS to notify anyone who’s SSN numbers are attached to more than one job or address.

3) Require e-verify to purchase a house or rent within the US. Also require e-verify to receive ANY welfare, un-employment, food stamps or any other program in the United States.

4) Require HS level proficiency with English prior to granting any legal status in the US. Exceptions for asylum seekers.

5) Any illegal caught who has not been arrested for any other crime may voluntarily self deport within 30 days and the record will be expunged

6) Illegals caught who have been charged with other NON-VIOLENT crimes, get assigned to a work camp (see below) and then deported.

7) Illegals who are charged with violent crimes serve their sentence at hard labor (and I mean breaking rocks hard labor) and then are deported. Double sentence time for repeat offenders.

Work Camps-
Build multiple POW like camps where illegals are housed. Some work in the kitchens, some work in the farms, many work making S-CEB (Stabilized Compressed Earth Blocks). These blocks are used to build a wall along the Southern border.

The wall to be located within 100’ of the border with the base of the wall to be 15’ high and 12’ wide. The top of the wall to have an additional fence on the southern side of the fence and a road on the north side of the top of the wall. Vehicle access ramps should be built on the north side every two to three miles.

Solar powered lights and video equipment (IR and low light as well) to monitor the wall. All data for a 50 mile section brought back to a Patrol Stations (also built with S-CEBs). Build the Patrol Stations similar to old western forts. Build them to house the border patrol agents, a jail for illegals caught, supply warehouses, ranges for practice, rail station to receive supplies, wall to protect the compound, Build a rail line interconnecting all of the stations and have regular supply and illegal pickup trains running.

An Air Mobile (helicopter) unit capable of SWAT level response if needed to respond to gunfire or other hostile actions, available to cover a 200 mile zone. With 2,000 miles to cover (just a tad under that) then it would require 10 Air mobile units.


25 posted on 07/31/2013 12:59:34 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: SeekAndFind

These people want America to be nothing but another impoverished backwater country


26 posted on 07/31/2013 1:00:01 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Resolute Conservative

When he makes stupid comments like that it makes you wonder if he has lost his marbles or if he wants to kill CIR in the House. That way he gets to straddle the fence like he always has.


27 posted on 07/31/2013 1:03:11 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: SeekAndFind

The heady gang of eight, or two, or whatever, are mad as he!! and stressed out at the young guns kicking doors down, blazing their own trail around the Duchess of Queensbury Rules imposed by the RINO’s. The Cruz types are generally refusing to sit down and shut up.

McCain in a pout posture for Hillary is telling us the base has CLOUT and he’s hot about it.

THAT’S the good news.


28 posted on 07/31/2013 1:07:43 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: lowbridge

The Manchurian Candidate strikes again.


29 posted on 07/31/2013 1:11:20 PM PDT by kempster
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To: USNBandit

McCain is just showing himself as a traitor to his base of support (in general elections). He loves the applause of the Dems and the elite media. Well, he always said he knew how to reach across the aisle.

He is sinking to new depths. Soon he’ll be proud that his fatty daughter is the new Michael Moore.


30 posted on 07/31/2013 1:11:45 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

So that means she keeps silent on his current positions? Is the “debt” ever repaid? If so, when?


31 posted on 07/31/2013 1:15:27 PM PDT by clintonh8r (white Caucasian)
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To: Mich Patriot

I don’t think he ever really fought “for” our country. He crashed his planes, and then went hostage. I firmly believe he sold out our country and gave away any information he could have.

I know he was not treated badly, his father was a high ranking officer. He was too valuable.

I would bet he did everything, including selling out his fellow POW’s to get preferential treatment.

When he came out on that film, he claimed he was coerced into talking good about his captivity. I claim Bravo Sierra. He WAS treated well, while the other POW’s were not.

Time has shown the McCains (starting with HIM, not his father) are spineless-self-serving cowards.

He is a disgrace. He gets no pass from me for serving in the armed forces. I have known many idiots who were with me in the Army, and not all were patriots. Many would have sold me off for a candy bar. It is nice to wax eternal about how loyal they all were and that we were brothers in arms, but some were just downright un-trustworthy. Fact Jack.


32 posted on 07/31/2013 1:23:44 PM PDT by esoxmagnum (The rats have been trained to pull the D voting lever to get their little food pellet)
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To: clintonh8r

Fortunately, Sarah Palin decides when to respond and what to say, not the rest of us.

I know I have enough to decide what I should do, and would not relish the idea of dictating to others what they must do and say and when.

She is the master of her own fate, and should make the judgments she feels appropriate. I would hope that others would grant me the same latitude.

Of all the politicians in the market today, it seems everyone feels some sense of ownership of Sarah Palin, in that they are always giving advice as to what she she be doing and saying at any given time about any given subject. Why is she the only one that garners that kind of attention and efforts to control her?

I like her judgment the way it is, and if she became the marionette of the political chattering class, then she would not be who she is, she would be the marionettes of the political chattering class.

I for one am glad she did not have a successful election with this Manchurian asshat, as she would never have been heard from again as VP under the the first Republicrat administration.

I think McCain is doing a fine job of crapping in his own nest without any encouragement, and for others to interfere would only distract from what others are saying and thinking about him now.


33 posted on 07/31/2013 1:26:29 PM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: esoxmagnum

and btw, I think the best way to describe his captivity was the he was the “maverick” and he was the only non-patriot at the Hanoi Hilton.

F’in Maverick


34 posted on 07/31/2013 1:27:07 PM PDT by esoxmagnum (The rats have been trained to pull the D voting lever to get their little food pellet)
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To: LachlanMinnesota

Intersting response. Do you give the same latitude to all politicians?


35 posted on 07/31/2013 1:29:49 PM PDT by clintonh8r (white Caucasian)
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To: SeekAndFind
Screw building the fence...it will never get built...and probably a waste of money of the long run...

Simple solution: Get caught crossing the border...shot on sight and toss your dead carcass over on the Mexico side of the border...with a bill to the Mexican government for the bullet and labor hauling your dead illegal ass to the border...

Get caught in country as an illegal...get sent to hard labor camp build on the border in several popular crossing sites...

Minimum 10 years hard labor...

The issue will go away within months...

Ok. liberals head will explode, but that's just a extra benefit..

36 posted on 07/31/2013 1:30:23 PM PDT by Popman
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To: SeekAndFind

John McCain,

I appreciate your military service to this country and value the fact that you brought Sarah Palin to the spotlight. Now, retire and fade away.


37 posted on 07/31/2013 1:36:10 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (The Lefties can drink Kool-Aid; I will drink Tea.)
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To: clintonh8r

Most politicians are not subjected to as many micromanaged and scripted instructions for living as is Sarah Palin, so I can’t really say I would give them all a pass.

The only reason McCain gets a pass is that he condemns himself with his own words.

I’m trying to think of another politician for whom I tried to create an acceptable dialogue, but I haven’t been able to come up with any yet. Only Sarah seemed to be sent scripts for proper politicking.

Mind you, I have wanted many to shut up, but there is no point in saying that kind of thing I guess.


38 posted on 07/31/2013 1:36:42 PM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: SeekAndFind

They were never planning to enforce the border security parts of bills.
They are also not planning to do the promised screening (what little of it there is - I wonder how many Americans an illegal can kill before being disqualified for amnesty?) either.


39 posted on 07/31/2013 1:45:56 PM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

She campaigned for his reelection? When and where? If possible, please provide links.

Merely “endorsing” him does not count. You claimed she actively campaigned for him and I dispute that.


40 posted on 07/31/2013 1:47:06 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Justice for Trayvon: Dig up his body and shoot him again.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Mcnut turned on Palin after his meeting with mac daddy and became just another mac daddy sock puppet.

What a loser and way, way ,way past relevance.


41 posted on 07/31/2013 2:14:12 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: clintonh8r

Sarah keeps quiet about Juan for her own reasons, I cannot guess why.


42 posted on 07/31/2013 2:22:22 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: SeekAndFind

1986 déjà vu. Invest in guillotines.


43 posted on 07/31/2013 2:30:22 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: SeekAndFind
UNEXPECTED!

....not really

...It IS McCain after all

44 posted on 07/31/2013 2:46:34 PM PDT by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: SeekAndFind

He’s a real traitor do the cause. Traumatized into weakness from years of imprisonment and torture. Should never have run for office


45 posted on 07/31/2013 2:49:38 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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