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ObamaCare Dropping Full-Timers at Schools, Local Governments
Fox Business ^ | July 31, 2013 | By Elizabeth MacDonald

Posted on 07/31/2013 4:45:55 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: Jim Robinson

Businesses with 50+ employees in Californicator land have been doing this since the first of the year.

Some businesses with a little less than 50 have been doing the same because they feel that ObozoCare would mandate coverage down to a few employees.

Also, more and more healthy young couples and singles have seen their yearly deductibles or the total monthly medical insurance costs soar beyond their budgets. So they are opting to paying doctors cash only for a visit.

ObozoCare needs the young healthy people paying a lot of money for care they don’t need to care for the illegals and others who don’t work. These trends put ObozoCare on even more shaky financial ground.


51 posted on 08/01/2013 8:33:29 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Having a discussion with liberals is like shearing pigs. Lots of squealing & little fleece!)
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Only the deranged twisted mind of a progressive could have dreamed up the h'care mess.

As FReeper Lou L wrote: Shows the mess Ohaha created, and why the WH apparatchiks cannot make it work more than three years after its passage.

Each "box" represents huge organizational beauracracies with people stumbling over themselves; each "arrow" represents hundreds and thousands of information requests and transfers. Those interfaces will have some common calls, but they'll have to be customized to fit each carrier's system and customizations. It seems as though a lot is being left off the "health plan" -- all the costs, all the restrictions, have to be passed along as well.

The thousands of "Navigators"---govt-issue clerks--will offer you "guidance/" And that online calculator...does it tell you how much you're being soaked now, rather than before the saving grace of O'care?=======================================================

Amazingly the lower Rube Goldberg chart is supposed to "simplify and explain" O'care......designed by a consultant group paid to assist in the process of getting states to create exchanges (the ones that interface with 60,000 IRS agents, the strongarm HHS, and an assortment of know-nothing snoopy federal agencies).

52 posted on 08/01/2013 8:56:43 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Jim Robinson

It just fascinating to watch radical socialist/fascist ideology meet the hard, harsh facts of reality. The “walking dead” (liberals) know no difference. The just follow and gobble up anything that might still be living within the unwashed masses.


53 posted on 08/01/2013 9:31:27 AM PDT by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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Just put them all on salary like me. I don’t know what a 20 hour week is, much less a 40 hour week.


54 posted on 08/01/2013 11:31:56 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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Are people who work less than 30 hours a week required to buy insurance or get fined?

How does medicare and VA work in obamacare? Is medicare considered the required insurance? Do the vets have “affordable insurance” at the VA?


55 posted on 08/01/2013 11:40:32 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (If you vote for evil because you can't see evil, you ARE evil!)
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“Are people who work less than 30 hours a week required to buy insurance or get fined? How does Medicare and VA work in obamacare? Is Medicare considered the required insurance? Do the vets have “affordable insurance” at the VA?”

My understanding is that EVERYBODY is required to buy insurance. If you can’t afford it you’ll get taxpayer assistance. The IRS example for a family of four on the lowest plan is that the plan will cost them $20,000. I find that estimate breathtaking. I suspect that it’s also low. But a family earning up to $88,000/year will get something on the order of $3,000 assistance. But if they make (estimating) $88,001 they get no assistance.

I can’t answer the other questions. But the plan is to hire thousands upon thousands of helpers who will assist you and answer your questions. The irony is that those helper will not be covered by insurance.

If Obamacare is not defunded by January (unlikely) it will start giving money to probably 80% of the public to buy insurance. At that point defunding or getting rid of the law may be impossible.


56 posted on 08/01/2013 11:52:36 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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The short term fix here for companys that actually want to stay in business and have something to sell is to incorporate a second company and rent the facility to it every afternoon. The old company works until noon then everyone punches in to the new company and finishes the day. That would technically produce twice as many jobs, all half time, and Obamuzzie could lie thru his teeth some more about how many jobs he created.


57 posted on 08/01/2013 1:14:09 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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“The short term fix here for companys that actually want to stay in business and have something to sell is to incorporate a second company and rent the facility to it every afternoon.”

A few months ago they announced that the 50-worker limit applies to *all* businesses owned by the same individuals. They are going to total all the workers of all the businesses together. So if a business owner owns two companies, and both companies have 25 workers, then he has 50 total employees under O-care. No joke.

The rule will include any business owned by a “few” people. The nightmare will be if there is a partnership where one of the partners owns different businesses than the other co-owners. All of their respective employees will be added together.


58 posted on 08/01/2013 2:49:54 PM PDT by PastorBooks
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