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TN:Controversial gun activist arrested with 'silencer' (Video)
Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 30 July, 2013 | David Codrea

Posted on 07/31/2013 4:59:39 PM PDT by marktwain

Leonard Embody, a gun activist whose open carrying and self-representation in the past have produced legal responses as well as no small amount of criticism from some “pro-gun” advocates, was arrested yesterday in Nashville and charged with possession of a prohibited weapon, WKRN News 2 reported this morning.

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UPDATE Per Leonard Embody, via email:

The Form 3 paperwork for the silencer was in the sealed and locked rifle case. Tenn. law only requires the possessor "retain" the paperwork, not present it to the law enforcement officer upon demand. The NFA documents are federal tax forms.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: banglist; constitution; fourthamendmant; guncontrol; secondamendment; tn
We need people who exercise their rights. This looks like an overreach to me, because the police did not like the way he looked. I am sure we will find more in the future.

I prefer a more incremental approach, myself.

1 posted on 07/31/2013 4:59:40 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

I wonder if he is a FReeper. lol


2 posted on 07/31/2013 5:02:13 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: marktwain

Faggots flaunt their sexual depravity and expect us to consider it “normal.” Carrying a firearm openly should be so commonplace as to evince a friendly conversation, not disgust. This nation is upside down.

Florida has very specific open carry rules and I carry openly any chance I get.


3 posted on 07/31/2013 5:03:49 PM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: marktwain

he has the paperwork for it, it is not illegal for him to have it or use it.


4 posted on 07/31/2013 5:03:54 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: marktwain
he was arrested for not paying a $200 TAX...
5 posted on 07/31/2013 5:06:50 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode
never mind... should have read farther
6 posted on 07/31/2013 5:07:52 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: marktwain

The guy taunts police. Right?


7 posted on 07/31/2013 5:20:50 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (If the government told us to expect rain, I'd schedule an outdoor wedding.)
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To: Tenacious 1; All

He exercises his rights. I would not say that he taunts police. They could easily just allow him to go about his business. He is a known quantity.

They do not want to be bound by the law, so they arrest him.

He is trying to make our rights real rather than only words on paper.

If you look on the video, it is clear that the police officer is simply lying when he says that he is “terrified”.

I suspect that the courts will side with the police, but I also think that Leonard scrupulously documented everything so that the police had better play by the rules. If they “lose” the NFA paperwork, for example, they may regret it.


8 posted on 07/31/2013 5:41:23 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: Tenacious 1; All
You say that like it is some manner of crime, or some such. I was a Biker for many years, highly customized Sportster, dual stacked chrome headlights, lots of chrome on lots of things... and apparently just the scoot was enough to garner lots of attention. Cops are supposed to keep the peace and are paid to enforce the laws -by US, THE PEOPLE!

NOT arbitrarily stop and interrogate citizens because they are exercising their natural rights and not disturbing the peace in any way. From what I experienced, they did not care. Just stop you, License-Registration-Proof_of_Insurance -and they had a quick new ticket/citation to present at the end of shift and new fines flowing into the government coffers.

Which IS, after all, the real reason why they write them...

9 posted on 07/31/2013 5:53:23 PM PDT by Utilizer (what does not kill you... -can sometimes damage you QUITE severely!)
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To: marktwain

I side with the officers on this one. All else is BS and nobody is going to change my mind.

If he was walking downtown with a rifle slung over his shoulder and a bullet proof vest, I would hope a police officer would stop and at least question and investigate the individual. Had he cooperated, answered some simple questions and said he was exercising his rights. Then they should have let him on his way.

This was a stunt and he got exactly what he wanted. He wanted to put police in a bad situation.


10 posted on 07/31/2013 5:57:18 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (If the government told us to expect rain, I'd schedule an outdoor wedding.)
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The rifle was in a case and inaccessible.

Maybe it was wrapped in multiple layers of tinfoil, with plastic wraps. I did not see a picture of the case, which was said to be locked.

11 posted on 07/31/2013 6:02:37 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: Tenacious 1
If he was walking downtown with a rifle slung over his shoulder and a bullet proof vest...

Good grief, read the damn story! Watch and listen to the video! He had nothing over his shoulder. The gun was in a case wrapped with tape. They could not see even a rifle! The paperwork for the suppressor was in the case with the gun.

What is "BS" is when someone does not read and pay attention to things!!!!!

12 posted on 07/31/2013 6:03:04 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (NO MORE IRS!)
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To: Utilizer

You are a FReeper. I doubt you intentionally set out to make a scene that would arouse suspicion and worry. I know there are Jacka$$ cops out there looking to cause trouble, likely the same ones that stop blacks for driving in the wrong neighborhood.

You shouldn’t be harassed for driving around in biker gear even while open carrying. I live in a big city in the Midwest. I see bikers (and others) open carrying about once or twice a month. It’s not commonplace but it’s not unusual either. I haven’t seen anyone harassed even when cops are around.

All that said, this guy was wearing a bullet proof vest and carrying a rifle downtown. He was inviting a confrontation by police. I think police should be able to simply ask questions and get some reassuring answers so they can send him on his way. Had someone stopped any number of mass shooters on their way into a theater or college campus, they likely would have changed the outcome.

I am VERY pro 2A and do carry concealed daily. I don’t open carry but don’t disparage those that choose to. This is blatant to point out the conflict of having LEO in a “public protection” capacity at all. They can’t legally protect anything and must wait for a crime to be committed to do anything. This guy is pointing that out.

He doesn’t do anything positive for our cause of making guns in public more sociably acceptable. He makes us look like nuts. The lay person would assume there can’t be very many of us because they don’t see nuts like that every day.

I don’t support what he did.


13 posted on 07/31/2013 6:08:13 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (If the government told us to expect rain, I'd schedule an outdoor wedding.)
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To: isthisnickcool

I did watch the entire video. He had his wrist medically fused.

He taunted the police to confront him so he could refuse to answer questions.


14 posted on 07/31/2013 6:09:16 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (If the government told us to expect rain, I'd schedule an outdoor wedding.)
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To: Tenacious 1
He taunted the police to confront him so he could refuse to answer questions.

He was walking down the sidewalk and was approached by the PD. He does not have to speak to them or answer any questions if he does not want to. But he did, he asserted his rights. Besides, they already know who the guy was. He had been handing out flyers.

He was not brandishing a firearm. He was not breaking any law. If he was please point out to me what law he was breaking and why they had the right to stop and detain him, much less arrest him.

15 posted on 07/31/2013 6:21:39 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (NO MORE IRS!)
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To: marktwain

NC is moving in the right direction with a law allowing hunters to use suppressors on guns.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/N/NC_HUNTERS_SUPPRESSORS_NCOL-?SITE=NCWIN&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT


16 posted on 07/31/2013 6:23:50 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Tagline: (optional, printed after your name on post))
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To: Tenacious 1

Then you are on the wrong website.

We like RKBA here.

If he’s acting suspicious, fine. There was no probable cause here for a Terry Stop.

Period.


17 posted on 07/31/2013 6:30:45 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Tenacious 1
All that said, this guy was wearing a bullet proof vest and carrying a rifle downtown.

No he was not. I mean really, you are not stupid. The guy was carrying a GUN CASE that was taped closed. It could have had bricks in it or a gun. What it should have had is a copy of the US Constitution.

Just because you would not do a particular thing that happens to be perfectly legal does not mean that you have the right to tell others they have to follow whatever notions you have. You simply do not have that right. Period. He is not you and he is not making "you" look "nuts" by the way. What is nuts is not seeing that he was within his right and the law and because of that he should not have been stopped and certainly not arrested. By the way, why would you give a damn what boneheaded libtards think? These "lay persons" have no right to dictate what rights any of us do or do not have under the United States Constitution no matter what they think or "assume".

I don't support what the police did!

18 posted on 07/31/2013 6:31:03 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (NO MORE IRS!)
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To: Tenacious 1

You aren’t nearly as pro-RKBA as you think you are.


19 posted on 07/31/2013 6:32:36 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Tenacious 1
I side with the officers on this one. All else is BS and nobody is going to change my mind.

OK. Goodbye.

20 posted on 07/31/2013 9:06:09 PM PDT by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU*ou)
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To: Tenacious 1
Had someone stopped any number of mass shooters on their way into a theater or college campus, they likely would have changed the outcome.

No doubt if we stop every person on the street, we are likely to change the outcome. That is no reason to do so. We could also impose curfews, and set up road blocks. We could have police search people's houses randomly. These would all make crime less likely.

A person wears a bullet-proof vest. So far as I know, that is not a crime yet. He has a gun in a locked container with him. That is not a crime yet. Is doing two things that are not crimes enough to give "reasonable suspicion" for the police to require a search? Is it against the law to not cooperate with a police officer?

There was a time when being black and walking in the wrong neighborhood would get you harrassed, or maybe beaten by the police. And blacks were told "be respectful, do what the cops say" -- and it only helped osmetimes. And it was wrong. And some would argue that harassing blacks walking in the wrong neighborhoods might well prevent a crime. And that may be true -- but doing so is still wrong. And harassing people for wearing safety equipment or legally carrying weapons is also wrong.

21 posted on 07/31/2013 9:51:44 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Tenacious 1

No. If I were to “taunt” police I would find one and belittle him. I was confronted and detained by these cops, not the other way around.


22 posted on 08/01/2013 3:25:11 AM PDT by kwikrnu
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To: kwikrnu

I put up a couple more videos.

video 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRVgFQ4P1Sw
video 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QScD986-UZE
audio 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIPzMFH7To4

On 7-29-13 I decided to pass out leaflets in downtown Nashville. I openly carried a molded kydex rifle case on my back with a ballistic vest. I purchased the ballistic vest because Tennessee cops have repeatedly pointed guns at me. It would be foolish not to wear a ballistic vest. I was detained once for about 20 minutes and let go. I then proceeded to do an interview with news channel 5. I then continued to pass out leaflets and was walking back to my vehicle when I was stopped by a crazy cop. He detained me, while his henchmen removed my sealed locked rifle case and pried it open without permission. They saw a suppressor attached to an AR15 rifle inside the case. I was arrested for the silencer even though form 3 paperwork was inside the case. I am an FFL NFA dealer and pay the SOT. The cops said that since the case appeared to maybe have a rifle in it they were justified in opening it. I was arrested and bonded out at about 5am on 7-30-13.

I have broke no law and believe the DA has not dropped the charges for fear of a federal lawsuit.


23 posted on 08/01/2013 3:29:35 AM PDT by kwikrnu
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“The NFA documents are federal tax forms.”

This means he is under NO obligation EVER to show them to anyone not ATF and in court, as they’re just as private as your 1040.


24 posted on 08/01/2013 3:39:38 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: Tenacious 1

Be very careful of what you’re advocating. You are advocating pre factum apprehension of citizens without any evidence of a crime being committed, IOW the elimination of habeus corpus. Do you REALLY support proactive aprehension in the belief a person ~might~ commit a crime some time in the future? Do you believe in gassing people too? Wake up man!


25 posted on 08/01/2013 3:40:34 AM PDT by Justa
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To: Tenacious 1

Where I live, there is nothing wrong with carrying a rifle down the street if you aren’t doing anything threatening. Even the black activists have done it and had no problems.


26 posted on 08/01/2013 3:45:26 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: kwikrnu

Thank you for posting.


27 posted on 08/01/2013 5:38:08 AM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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“I have broke no law and believe the DA has not dropped the charges for fear of a federal lawsuit.”

This statement is confusing to me. Do you mean that the DA has *not* charged you due to fear of a federal lawsuit?

I would like to see a picture of the locked and sealed rifle case.

Thanks.


28 posted on 08/01/2013 5:46:02 AM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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I have been charged, but they want to give the impression they acted properly. This is why they will drop the charges, but not too soon after the charges were made. They are in possession of my form 3, as it was in the sealed and locked rifle case.

watch the first video and it shows the rifle case. The case was made from kydex. The kydex covered every part of the firearm and no part of the firearm was visible. A cable lock was placed on the kydex case so that the firearm could not be used. The sling was strapped in two places over the kydex case, preventing the case from being opened. As a final touch I placed tape around the case at six points to ensure cops did not attempt to open it.

here is a better picture of the case

http://www.kwikrnuarms.com/vacuum_form_rifle_cases.htm


29 posted on 08/01/2013 6:05:43 AM PDT by kwikrnu
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