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The danger of Clinton fatigue
CBS News ^ | July 30, 2013 | By JOHN DICKERSON

Posted on 07/31/2013 5:45:26 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

For Hillary Clinton, the problem with Anthony Weiner's candidacy is supposed to be that it conjures memories of her own marital troubles.

But, for Hillary Clinton, the problem with the Weiner fiasco may not be the memories but the mishigas. Though she and her husband have nothing to do with this campaign, the episode does bring to mind a familiar feeling about the Clinton enterprise--that it was always surrounded by some kind of drama. "That's what we were talking about with No Drama Obama," says a veteran of Obama's 2008 campaign reflecting on the Weiner episode. "That's how we ran against her."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: pantsuit

1 posted on 07/31/2013 5:45:27 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"No Drama" Obama?

There has never been a bigger drama queen in American politics.

2 posted on 07/31/2013 5:48:10 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Dodging Sniper Fire in Bosnia
Madison Guaranty Savings and Loan

Just a quick refresher course lest we forget what has happened to many “friends” of the Clintons .

1- James McDougal - Clintons convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr’s investigation.
2 - Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown .. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.
3 - Vince Foster - Former White House counselor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock ‘s Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.
4 - Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the air Traffic controller committed suicide.
5 - C. Victor Raiser, II - Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.
6 - Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton as a “dear friend and trusted advisor”.
7 - Ed Willey - Clinton fundraiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.
8 - Jerry Parks - Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock .. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.
9 - James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a “Black Book” of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas
10 - James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater..
11 - Kathy Ferguson - Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.
12 - Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancée of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancée, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancée.
13 - Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton ‘s friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.
14 - Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal, Mena, Arkansas , airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.
15 - Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.
16 - Paula Grober - Clinton ‘s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.
17 - Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.
18 - Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993, in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.
19 - Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington , Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.
20 - Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.
21 - Charles Meissner - Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.
22 - Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton ‘s advisory council personally treated Clinton ‘s mother, stepfather and brother.
23 - Barry Seal - Drug running TWA pilot out of Mena Arkansas , death was no accident.
24 - Johnny Lawhorn, Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.
25 - Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.
26 - Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fundraiser died March 1, 1994, when his plane exploded.
27 - Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as “The boys on the track” case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.


28 - Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.
29 - Keith McMaskle - Died, stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988
30 - Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.
31 - Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.
32 - James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to natural causes”.
33 - Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.
34 - Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.


36 - Major William S. Barkley, Jr.
37 - Captain Scott J . Reynolds
38 - Sgt. Brian Hanley
39 - Sgt. Tim Sabel
40 - Major General William Robertson
41 - Col. William Densberger
42 - Col. Robert Kelly
43 - Spec. Gary Rhodes
44 - Steve Willis
45 - Robert Williams
46 - Conway LeBleu
47 - Todd McKeehan
Quite an impressive list! Pass this on. Let the public become aware of what happens to friends of the Clintons !

3 posted on 07/31/2013 5:49:41 PM PDT by Ben Mugged (The number one enemy of liberalism is reality.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Whatever happened to the half white son Bill spawned while on a morning run in Arkansas? We have not heard of him since the first and second clinton campaign.

4 posted on 07/31/2013 5:52:25 PM PDT by tillacum
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To: Ben Mugged

I’d add the four dead American heroes at Benghazi to her list.

5 posted on 07/31/2013 5:52:36 PM PDT by 21st Century Crusader (August 26, 1191)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The only problem with the weener episode is that it keeps HIllary's name in the news for a few days. She has proved over and over that by staying quiet she can avoid any problems because her media allies will find another story to latch onto for her.

This is how Trayvon became more important than Benghazi.

The smartest the republicans could do is link her to Obama's statement about scandals being phony and force the media to ask her some questions:

Hypothetical Statement by Reince Priebus (or anyone in the party): "I have to say that I absolutely disagree with the position taken by Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton that oour ambassador and his security team being murdered in Benghazi is a phony scandal."

As this is published the Hilary media will go into protection mode and allow her an opportunity to make a statement saying the original quote was Obama's, not hers. THEN, the obvious follow up has to be, "do you agree with his statement?"

at that point she has no way out.

Of course, this is only a fantasy on my part. No one is going to dare put her on the spot for feat of being taken apart by her media.

6 posted on 07/31/2013 5:55:09 PM PDT by Baynative (Lord, keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.)
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To: Alamo-Girl

Ping, you are the Grand Master.

7 posted on 07/31/2013 5:57:47 PM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: BenLurkin

The Drama between he and Reggie Love.

The Drama of him leaving the Wookie at home and flying all over the country.

The drama of him going to bed while Americans were dying and he could have helped them.

8 posted on 07/31/2013 6:02:51 PM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The Clintons are liars. That should fatigue anyone who respects the truth.

9 posted on 07/31/2013 6:06:23 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The right to self-defense is older than the Constitution.)
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To: popdonnelly

“she and her husband (the clintons) have nothing to do with the Weiner campaign.”

Really? Hillary’s gal pal just accidentally became positioned to become first lady of New York City this fall?

Like that just happened by magic?

Hillary as president and directly in charge of the nation’s largest city at the same time. Kind of like the cattle futures and the appearance of the Rose law firm billing records and the photo of Bill and Hill dancing on the beach. Happenstance, I tell you. Just happenstance.

10 posted on 07/31/2013 6:17:46 PM PDT by duckworth (Perhaps instant karma's going to get you. Perhaps not.)
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To: BenLurkin
"No Drama" Obama? There has never been a bigger drama queen in American politics.

Except for one detail. There is zero risk that Obama would have a fling with a female intern or with any other woman. That is the one area in which he is an improvement over Bill Clinton. In all other respects Obama was a step down from corrupt sleaze to pure evil, but we know Obama is not going to be stirring up drama by chasing women.

11 posted on 07/31/2013 6:27:02 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Pollster1
but we know Obama is not going to be stirring up drama by chasing women.

That's fine as long as Reggie Love or his other special pals don't talk.

12 posted on 07/31/2013 6:28:46 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Sounds as if Hillary is stiffening against the Weiner, although we all know this is quite impossible.

13 posted on 07/31/2013 6:58:14 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If Clinton wins, most of my adult life will have been spent living under Bushes and Clintons. I may end up driving my car over the side of a cliff.

14 posted on 07/31/2013 7:30:53 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: bmwcyle

LOLOL! I certainly am Clinton fatigued Thanks for the ping!

15 posted on 07/31/2013 8:19:38 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Ben Mugged

Does anyone remember the SS Agent with the grey hair that looked just like Clinton? I’ve often wondered what his name was and what happened to him.

16 posted on 08/01/2013 2:26:50 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Baynative
Democrats are Law-Less

Republicans are Ball-Less.

17 posted on 08/01/2013 2:27:55 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: duckworth

The plan is for Huma to be the first MUSLIM first lady of NYC, then off to the Senate, then maybe the Presidency. All supported and pushed by the Clintons and the MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD!

18 posted on 08/01/2013 2:30:18 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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