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Ohio Bills Would Permit 'Stand Your Ground' Guns in Church and Daycare (Good news, weird commentary)
Denis Campbell's UK Progressive ^ | August 1, 2013 | David A. Love

Posted on 08/01/2013 12:14:15 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

With the ink on the George Zimmerman ‘not guilty’ verdict barely dry, another state appears ready to consider a Florida-style “Stand Your Ground” law. Add to that legislation to ease restrictions on concealed handguns in the most unacceptable places, along with a bill which would allow gun silencers.

This time it is Ohio’s turn. And things are looking outrageous right now in the Buckeye State.

Three bills introduced in the Ohio legislature are at issue. The first is House Bill 203, which would bring “Stand Your Ground” or “Shoot First” to Ohio. If passed, the measure would allow a person to use lethal force without a duty to retreat. The legislation, which the Ohio Legislative Black Caucus opposes, is nearly identical to the Florida law implicated in the acquittal of George Zimmerman for the killing of Trayvon Martin.

Silencers to hunt birds?

Meanwhile, House Bill 234 would allow silencers—yes, silencers—“while hunting game birds and wild quadrupeds.” Another piece of legislation, HB 191, would change the definition of an automatic weapon from a gun that fires over 31 rounds without reloading to a weapon that fires multiple rounds with a single trigger pull. Gun control advocates such as Toby Hoover, Executive Director of the Ohio Coalition Against Gun Violence believe the motive for HB 191 is to ensure that there are unlimited rounds in a magazine.

But it gets worse. HB 210 would undermine public safety by prohibiting the police from destroying confiscated guns and bullets, and forcing law enforcement to sell the weapons and ammo to a federally licensed dealer. Alternatively, the police could sell the confiscated guns “for sporting use or as a museum piece or collectors’ item.”

And saving the best—or worst—for last, HB 231 is a particularly horrendous piece of legislation. Stand Your Ground is insidious enough, but this bill would lift the ban “against carrying a concealed handgun onto institutions of higher education, places of worship, day-care facilities, aircraft, certain government facilities, public areas of airport terminals and police stations, and school safety zones.”

Guns in daycare centers and churches? Feel safer?

“If the nut cases can get in with guns, then the good guys need to be able to defend themselves and shoot back,” said State Rep. John Becker, a sponsor of HB 191 and 210 and cosponsor of HB 231.

Rep. Becker has it all wrong. Perhaps the people we should really worry about are the lawmakers such as Rep. Becker who write bad laws that put our children in danger, enable more gun violence and sanction more senseless deaths.

“Given that Ohio is now losing jobs, and that the economic recovery has yet to impact most Ohioans, these bills just don’t make sense,” said State Senator Nina Turner (D-Cuyahoga and Lake Counties). “We should be working to find ways to invest in early childhood education or fund critical public services at the local level—some communities cannot even afford to keep the street lights on. These bills are just distractions at a time when our constituents are asking for real solutions,” she added.

Ohio is a gun conduit

According to federal data released in June, Ohio is a gun conduit. The state is a leading source of guns used in crimes in other states, which, of course, the criminals love. In 2012, 1,601 firearms were purchased in Ohio and then tied to crimes committed in 36 states, including 183 crimes committed in New York. Another 5,375 guns were linked to Ohio crimes.

“People know they can come to Ohio, get a gun, and take it someplace where there are tougher restrictions,” Columbus Deputy Police Chief Jeffrey Blackwell told the Columbus Dispatch. “It happens at gun shows in the sticks and through underground schemes on city streets.”

Meanwhile, gun control supporters believe that these ill-conceived laws will only create more Trayvon Martins. “It was about race and guns,” said Toby Hoover of Ohio Coalition Against Gun Violence concerning the George Zimmerman case. “If we want this to stop we will have to act to change these laws of violence.”

With over 1,000 people killed by gun violence in Ohio each year, some reasonable solutions include mandatory gun registration; banning assault weapons, “cop-killer” bullets and high-capacity clips; promoting safe gun storage with a childproof gun law; keeping guns out of the hands of children through a juvenile possession law, and closing loopholes allowing unlicensed dealers to sell 40% of the guns in Ohio.

Yet the Ohio gun bills coming down the pike are divorced from reality and common sense. They speak to the fringe extremism of the gun lobby, and the greed of the lawmakers under their control. But sensible people can stop this foolishness, and they must.

TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; ohio; secondamendment

1 posted on 08/01/2013 12:14:15 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Of course, this article would quote gun-grabbing Democrats. These people make me sick!

2 posted on 08/01/2013 12:35:31 AM PDT by Catsrus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's from a low level Leftist UK rag. It's the Internet equivalent of someone standing on a London street corner passing out mimeograph copies of his latest rant.
3 posted on 08/01/2013 1:14:16 AM PDT by MCF
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
A message to Mr. Campbell: As it happens each of our States still retains a degree of sovereignty over most of the laws within its boundaries that Scots within the embracing arms of Britain can only dream of. We are citizens, not quite yet subjects, of a country and of individual States. The laws we make to govern ourselves are none of your business and your opinion is neither sought for nor appreciated.

Of course, Mr. Campbell, I could just cut to the quick and tell you to go f*** yourself. But I'd prefer to save that pleasure for the off chance occurrence of someday meeting you in person so it could be spoken in the proper tone, the correct distance from your typical Bad-Teeth encasing face, and just the right quantity of righteous spittle.

Oh and by the way, without mentioning specific clan association, with ancestors murdered in cold blood by some of yours while they were carrying the King's coin in their pockets I've an impulse to reach for something rather sharp and pointy at the mention of the name Campbell. So consider yourself warned, Laddy.

4 posted on 08/01/2013 5:48:22 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: MCF; All

It is a good example of how the left “thinks”. Most of the assumptions about the nature of reality are wrong in the article, which leads to misinterpretation of important facts.

It is very difficult to come to correct conclusions when you start with false assumptions.

I decided not to go to the trouble of commenting on the article at the source. Not worth it in England, for this level of publication.

I would make a comment if it were the Daily Mail.

5 posted on 08/01/2013 5:56:50 AM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: katana

“something rather sharp and pointy at the mention of the name Campbell”

Love your post. Scots/Irish/native American, but you have the user’s name of “katana”???

6 posted on 08/01/2013 6:10:27 AM PDT by Rannug ("God has given it to me, let him who touches it beware.")
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To: Rannug

What can I say? Have eclectic tastes and interests. Used to be much into Samurai movies (and the name wasn’t already taken when I signed up here). I do make major exceptions for certain Campbell’s. Bruce Campbell (aka Ash Williams) is one of my favorite actors. But when I come across one that pisses me off like the author of this article did it throws a little gas on my fire.

7 posted on 08/01/2013 6:32:05 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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