Skip to comments.After Zimmerman: Lessons for a Citizen Carrier
Posted on 08/01/2013 12:18:23 AM PDT by neverdem
Shortly after the Sandy Hook one Elementary School massacre in December 2012, I took to these pages to gently chide the NRA's Wayne LaPierre for his proposal to install an armed policeman in every school. Instead I suggested it would be more effective to permit armed teachers and school personnel, carefully screened and trained, to fulfill this role. The article outlined three principles to optimize the deterrent value of a societal gun presence: pervasiveness, anonymity, and publicity.
The article also pointed out (hat-tip John Lott) that all citizens, not just those who are armed, benefit from the crime deterrence created by law-abiding gun owners. This got me thinking about my own status. There I was, benefiting from all my gun-owning neighbors who helped create the safe neighborhood where I'm fortunate to reside.
At that point I made a personal decision to cease being a parasite and become instead a producer. Thus began a very steep learning curve to train and equip myself over several months to become a responsible and competent hoplite for the benefit of myself and my family, yes, but also my friends and neighbors.
In March 2013 I participated in a CCW (Concealed Carry Weapon) class. In May I received my CCW permit. On that day this semi-retired septuagenarian (I, myself) became a citizen carrier.
My appetite for sound, reliable news and information about 2nd Amendment issues and the technology and skills of gunnery continues unabated. I've also made new friends and acquaintances who share my new passion. All this confirms for me what I knew at the outset: the propaganda of the gun-hating left about these issues and people is an unconscionable, ignorant pack of lies, every word of it.
In my CCW class there were no Rambos, just ordinary middle-class folks, mostly men but a...
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My lesson I got from the Zimmerman case is always have handy a throw down gun not registered to yourself...
It’s much cleaner and cheaper if you have a “throwdown” Combat folder knife.
Fingerprints? Just asking...
Good advice. I’m just glad the author of the article in the original post finally woke up to reality. I mean he’s 70, for Pete’s sake! What took him so long?!?!? Oh, my, he met some gun owners... and they were normal people! Sometimes these columnists are like the newly religious. They finally catch on and then preach all day from back of their high horse. Honestly, I’m glad to have you in the fold, old-timer, but where have you been all my life?!?
He thinks he’s arrived, but his education has just begun.
You’d have to wipe down a pistol too....no difference really. Then you’d have to clamp the perps hand around the pistol or the blade.
That’d be pretty obvious if any witnesses were in the immediate area, and especially with cellphone cams recording the incident (Rodney King).
It’d be a felony ‘tampering with evidence’ the LEOs would charge you with, wouldn’t it? I’ve thought long and hard about it, but can’t reach a valid conclusion.
Decisions, decisions, decisions...
Of course you’d have to quickly judge about witnesses and such. But if there aren’t any around and you don’t see CCTVs, I’d do it. No one can tell me that police don’t do it.
I know some do; I’ve seen the ankle .32/.38 snub-nosed holster, and asked a couple of LEO customers what they were for; got the “back-up piece” and a smile/wink from each. Knife throwaway makes more sense; you’re right.
The honest, law-abiding non-violent carrier is an asset to all.
The left wants to take guns away from honest, law-abiding non-violent citizens and deliberately leave them in the hands of violent criminals.
After Zimmerman: Lessons for a Citizen Carrier
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Decisions, decisions, decisions...
If the time ever comes, you take a look at the entire situation, and make the decision then if the circumstances warrant, and if the opportunity to execute is present. If not, you keep the knife in your pocket. Judgement matters
Moral issues aside, IMHO it's best not to tamper with evidence. As you noted earlier, you never know where a witness could be. A quick look around won't do the job. You could very easily miss someone looking out of a window from across the street.
Plus you'll be dealing with trained and experienced detectives at some point. Those folks have seen all the tricks. They are not stupid!
Get caught tampering with evidence, and it would be very easy for a jury to disbelieve anything else you might have to say.
That said, I've been robbed/shot once in 1974, and survived, and it won't happen again.
Turning to the article, the author has it right when he says GZ should have immediately returned to his truck, locked it, and placed his weapon on the seat, ready to be used. In any situation like that one's vehicle is his rolling fortress. By leaving the vehicle and not getting back into it immediately GZ exposed himself to Martin's almost successful attempt to murder him. He's alive today only due to pure luck and the fact that he had the pistol.
I've had a permit and carried since 1995 have never had to display, point, or (God forbid) discharge a weapon in anger against anyone. By its mere possession and carrying I do, however, use it in anger every day because of the deterrence power of my carrying and that of thousands of others. In short, that weapon is there for me to be able to deal with Fate if it comes after me, not for me to be able to chase it.
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