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Gay couple to sue church over gay marriage opt-out (England)
christian.org.uk ^ | 08/01/2013 | n/a

Posted on 08/01/2013 7:00:11 AM PDT by massmike

Wealthy gay dad, Barrie Drewitt-Barlow, says he and his civil partner Tony will go to court to force churches to host gay weddings.

He told the Essex Chronicle that he will take legal action because “I am still not getting what I want”.

A Government Bill legalising gay marriage passed Parliament recently but it included measures to protect churches from being forced to perform same-sex weddings.

Challenge

Mr Drewitt-Barlow said: “The only way forward for us now is to make a challenge in the courts against the church.

“It is a shame that we are forced to take Christians into a court to get them to recognise us.”

He added: “It upsets me because I want it so much – a big lavish ceremony, the whole works.....

The gay couple shot to fame in 1999 when they became the first British same-sex couple to be named on their children’s birth certificates.

Last year the Church of England warned that the Government’s plans to redefine marriage could trigger legal problems and end the 500-year link between church and state.

(Excerpt) Read more at christian.org.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: formerlygreatbritain; gaychurchweddings; gaymarriage; gaystapo; homonaziagenda; homonazimarriage; homosexualagenda; homotyranny; lavendermafia; religiousfreedom; religiousliberty; religiouspersecution

1 posted on 08/01/2013 7:00:11 AM PDT by massmike
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To: massmike; little jeremiah

homosexual agenda ping


2 posted on 08/01/2013 7:01:00 AM PDT by massmike (At the heart of every Paul-bot argument is the fear that someone will keep them from their weed!)
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To: massmike

lol, I didn’t see that coming.../sarc


3 posted on 08/01/2013 7:03:03 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: massmike
“I am still not getting what I want”.

Because, of course, what he wants is more important than centuries of theology, tradition, and history.
4 posted on 08/01/2013 7:03:06 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Truth/Lies; Liberty/Tyranny--WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE??)
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To: massmike

“OK OK we’ll accept a new law that allows churches to opt out... we’ll just sue them afterwards to force them to ‘opt-in’”


5 posted on 08/01/2013 7:03:20 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: massmike

lol, I didn’t see that coming.../sarc


6 posted on 08/01/2013 7:04:35 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: massmike
“I am still not getting what I want”.

Welcome to the real world. If I was getting what I wanted, Ronald Reagan would still be President.

7 posted on 08/01/2013 7:13:23 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo ( Walker 2016)
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To: massmike

I will never recognize your perversion as anything but a vile perversion and you cannot make me. Go suck eggs.


8 posted on 08/01/2013 7:14:47 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Thane_Banquo

If I was getting what I wanted, well, let’s not go there.


9 posted on 08/01/2013 7:17:41 AM PDT by jboot (It can happen here because it IS happening here.)
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To: Mr. K
“OK OK we’ll accept a new law that allows churches to opt out... we’ll just sue them afterwards to force them to ‘opt-in’”

Coming here the day after SCOTUS declares SSM the law of the land.

10 posted on 08/01/2013 7:18:47 AM PDT by jboot (It can happen here because it IS happening here.)
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To: massmike

“Barrie Drewitt-Barlow”

With a moniker like that I think he was doomed from the get go.

Seriously, I’d like to see the complaint.

Will the Almighty be named as a co-defendant?

Drewitt-Barlow et al

VS

God et al


11 posted on 08/01/2013 7:18:56 AM PDT by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: massmike

why don’t these people ever sue mosques?


12 posted on 08/01/2013 7:19:16 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: silverleaf

“why don’t these people ever sue mosques?”

Because they’re afraid their case will “blow up” so to speak.


13 posted on 08/01/2013 7:22:16 AM PDT by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: massmike

If you read the book of Maccabees, the Greeks were forcing the Jews to eat pork and wouldn’t allow them to circumcise their boys.

Forcing the religious to commit actions against their conscious has always been a form of persecution.


14 posted on 08/01/2013 7:24:37 AM PDT by MNDude (The system worked!)
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To: massmike

Entire point of the gay agenda is to force Church’s to partake in and bless their agenda, make any utterance of negativity of their life style hate speech.


15 posted on 08/01/2013 7:24:56 AM PDT by crusadersoldier
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To: silverleaf

I noticed he singled out Christians.


16 posted on 08/01/2013 7:25:56 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: massmike
Signs/sins of the times, which is yet another sign of the End of Times (our era).

Introduction to the Messages

17 posted on 08/01/2013 7:34:35 AM PDT by GBA (Our obamanation: Romans 1:18-32)
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To: massmike

And so it starts...anyone with brains could’ve seen this coming from a mile away. And eventually governments across the world will start to outlaw religion because it will be deemed hate speech. It’s a brave new world.


18 posted on 08/01/2013 7:38:33 AM PDT by erod (I'm a Chicagoan till Chicago ends...)
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To: massgopguy

““It is a shame that we are forced to take Christians into a court to get them to recognise us.”

True. Do Muslims recognize them, or are they just unconcerned that the Muslims don’t recognize them?


19 posted on 08/01/2013 7:38:43 AM PDT by MNDude (The system worked!)
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To: massmike
..he will take legal action because “I am still not getting what I want”, he said while furiously stomping his feet and later threatening to hold his breath.
20 posted on 08/01/2013 7:42:04 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: massmike

Simple solution here....any clergyman,or church,that wishes not to perform marriages recognized by the state should officially and fully renounce their powers to perform such marriages and that,in future,he/she/they will only perform a purely religious ceremony to “bless” a union.All couples would then be advised to go elsewhere to arrange a ceremony that’s recognized by “man”.Of course pervert couples would be denied the religious ceremony by the church in question and there wouldn’t be a thing the government could do.


21 posted on 08/01/2013 7:44:22 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama Had A City It Would Look Like Detroit.)
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To: massmike

The loving couple.Can you imagine all the anti-retrovirals,creams and ointments they must have to use to counteract all the....well,I'll stop there.

22 posted on 08/01/2013 7:50:18 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama Had A City It Would Look Like Detroit.)
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To: massmike
He added: “It upsets me because I want it so much – a big lavish ceremony, the whole works.....

There is nothing preventing that other than his own desire to force others to celebrate his idiocy. He can have the big ol' ceremony with all the lavish pomp. He knows that. The real issue is that he wants to force his desires on others.
23 posted on 08/01/2013 7:51:05 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: massmike

These people are like two-year-olds throwing tantrums. “I didn’t get what I want!” What other people “want” just doesn’t matter.

Why do they even want Christians to recognize them, anyway? Christians’ Bible says homosexuality is wrong. So instead of forcing themselves where they’re not wanted, why don’t gays come up with their own ceremony? They can call it “garriage.” They can have their own version of “churches,” where they ordain people to perform their “weddings.”

But no, that won’t do because it’s all about forcing Christians to say, “You’re okay, you’re normal.”


24 posted on 08/01/2013 7:52:40 AM PDT by Nea Wood (When life gets too hard to stand, kneel.)
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Coming here next....And our lawless, unrepresentative judiciary is very likely to veto the First Amendment and close the churches that fail to comply. Keep your powder dry.....


25 posted on 08/01/2013 7:53:03 AM PDT by Godwin1
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To: Gay State Conservative

I agree. At most churches you can’t just walk in off the street and demand to be baptized, for instance. The church will make you take a class where they teach you what they believe, and you usually have to be a member of the church and give a testimony that you are a believer, etc. Well, the same could be true with marriage. They could call it “holy matrimony,” since the word “marriage” now includes gays. Churches could refuse to perform holy matrimony until a couple joins the church, takes the classes, and has a testimony.


26 posted on 08/01/2013 7:57:17 AM PDT by Nea Wood (When life gets too hard to stand, kneel.)
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To: massmike

Activist, open homosexuals are psychopatholigically selfish individuals. They will tear down the entire World to get their way, like a 3-year-old.


27 posted on 08/01/2013 8:36:44 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: massmike

I’m sure they would have been very accommodating at the mosque.


28 posted on 08/01/2013 8:42:40 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: onedoug

Good pint. Knowing the Church of England, they will probably lose the suit on purpose.


29 posted on 08/01/2013 8:49:15 AM PDT by aimhigh (Guns do not kill people. Abortion kills people.)
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To: massmike

I believe our church already limits weddings to members.
What kind of recognition is it they want? Does he think we can be forced to say they are “normal”? So what if we do? He still knows he isn’t.
I look forward to the day some member of the gay community stands before God and attempts to tell Him He was wrong. That is going to be fun to watch.


30 posted on 08/01/2013 9:37:11 AM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Won’t keep the fire and brimstone away, ultimately.


31 posted on 08/01/2013 11:12:37 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: massmike

from 2006:

The wedding photograph of Barrie Drewitt and Tony Barlow on the internet web page, with the twins whose birth made them Britain’s first surrogate gay fathers, radiates affectionate pride.
Resplendent in matching outfits of cream silk, who could blame the multi-millionaire couple for showing off two of their three beautiful children, seven-year-olds Saffron and Aspen? After all, as Barrie told the Mail this week, ‘it’s a site used by many of our friends as a way to share information’.
No doubt it is, but a few moments trawling through the pages of Gaydar.com reveals that much of that ‘information’ and many of the accompanying images jar horribly with pictures of children. ‘Horny Fun Wanted’ proclaims one typical advertiser on the gay dating site, displaying a full frontal nude picture of himself for the delectation of passing browsers. Others express preferences for all kinds of unprintable activities.
Users are, disturbingly, asked to click a box to say whether they prefer safe sex. Every vital statistic is listed; often with eye-watering full-colour evidence. There is also a profusion of links to male escort agencies and hardcore gay porn sites.
Despite widespread condemnation from bodies such as children’s charity Kidscape, which described it as ‘asking for trouble’, the couple has insisted on keeping the children’s photographs posted.
Their own, relatively tame details on the site reveal a preference for ‘firemen, footballers, married men, military...and rugby players’, alongside a fetish for Speedo swimming trunks and suits.
Barrie, 37, and Tony, 42, are somewhat less open about their ages, which they claim to be 32. One suspects it is drama queen Barrie rather than the more taciturn Tony doing the talking when they inform potential new contacts: ‘Willing to try anything once!’ ‘Just looking for friends, no big deals, no tears, just loads of laughs and loads a fun!! Whatever, no camp guys, please. We don’t do camp guys well at all.’
The Drewitt-Barlows, as they style themselves, dismiss criticism as just another example of the homophobic media over-reacting.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-408666/Why-pictures-millionaire-gay-dads-children-dating-website.html


32 posted on 08/01/2013 2:39:27 PM PDT by montag813 (NO AMNESTY * ENFORCE THE LAW * http://StandWithArizona.com)
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To: massmike

“I want...” “I” “I” “I”


33 posted on 08/01/2013 4:21:30 PM PDT by Shimmer1 ("What a poor, ignorant, malicious, short-sighted, crapulous mass." John Adams)
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To: Shimmer1

The 2%-3% (at most) who are sodomites are a plague on the world.


34 posted on 08/01/2013 4:24:29 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: massmike

“It is a shame that we are forced to take Christians into a court to get them to recognise us.”

He added: “It upsets me because I want it so much – a big lavish ceremony, the whole works.....”


Try all they may.....but being FORCED into marrying sodomites does NOT equal “recognition”. Jesus calls them reprobates. And what they do, is MOCK God.

Galatians 6 7-8

7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.


35 posted on 08/01/2013 10:17:00 PM PDT by ourworldawry
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To: Wiser now

“I look forward to the day some member of the gay community stands before God and attempts to tell Him He was wrong. That is going to be fun to watch.”


Not going to happen. Even if you WERE able to witness such a thing, it would be far from fun to watch.


36 posted on 08/01/2013 10:23:45 PM PDT by ourworldawry
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