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Congress spars with Puerto Rican governor opposed to statehood
The Hill ^ | 8/01/2013 | Julian Pecquet

Posted on 08/01/2013 11:23:35 AM PDT by cll

Key lawmakers told Puerto Rico's governor on Thursday that it's time for the island to choose between statehood and independence.

Gov. Alejandro García Padilla has been fighting to retain the island's status as a U.S. territory without voting rights, arguing that it provides the economically troubled island with an advantageous tax status. Leaders of the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee, which has jurisdiction over U.S. territories and insular possessions, said that's unacceptable.

“After 115 years, it is clearly time for Puerto Rico to determine what political path it will take,” said committee Chairman Ron Wyden (D-Ore.). “The current status undermines our nation's moral standing around the world.”

The top Republican on the panel agreed change is in the air.

“It's clear to me the majority of Puerto Ricans don't favor the current status,” said Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska), who says she's the only sitting senator born in a U.S. territory.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; US: Alaska; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: alaska; garciapadilla; lisamurkowski; oregon; puertorico; ronwyden; statehood
In a November 2012 plebiscite, a majority of voters in Puerto Rico rejected the current Commonwealth status and selected admission to the U.S. as a State as an alternative for the first time. Puerto Rico Congressman (Resident Commissioner) Pedro Pierluisi has filed an Admission Act in Congress which is currently being discussed.
1 posted on 08/01/2013 11:23:35 AM PDT by cll
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To: cll

A Puerto Rican plebiscite back in the ‘60’s only gave the independistas 5% of the vote.


2 posted on 08/01/2013 11:27:25 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: cll

After that only 6 more to go.


3 posted on 08/01/2013 11:27:48 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: cll

Can we let them go free, the only thing they produce is the occasional baseball player.


4 posted on 08/01/2013 11:28:20 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: cll
Key lawmakers told Puerto Rico's governor on Thursday that it's time for the island to choose between statehood and independence. Gov. Alejandro García Padilla has been fighting to retain the island's status as a U.S. territory without voting rights, arguing that it provides the economically troubled island with an advantageous tax status.

It's way past time for Puerto Rico to s__t or get off the pot. They've had the benefits of statehood with none of the obligations for about a century. That's too long.

5 posted on 08/01/2013 11:28:30 AM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for the American politburo!!)
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To: rrstar96; AuH2ORepublican; livius; adorno; wtc911; Willie Green; CGVet58; Clemenza; Narcoleptic; ...
Puerto Rico Ping! Please Freepmail me if you want on or off the list.


6 posted on 08/01/2013 11:28:37 AM PDT by cll (Serviam!)
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To: cll
Don't they send their own delegation to the Olympics, World Cup Soccer, etc?

They act like a country, but still want to suck on the Teet of the US.

Where have i seen that before?

7 posted on 08/01/2013 11:30:20 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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To: cll

What do they bring to the table if they want statehood?

I say we should cut them loose.


8 posted on 08/01/2013 11:31:50 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Democrats: Robbing Peter to buy Paul's vote.)
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To: Resolute Conservative

“Can we let them go free, the only thing they produce is the occasional baseball player”

Really? Tell that to the families of these guys and that of the over 200,000 veterans that currently live on the island:

List – Killed in Action, Global War on Terror, Operation Enduring Freedom, Operation Iraqi Freedom, Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen and Marines, Puerto Rico born or Puerto Rico HOR

SPC Wilbel A. Robles-Santa, USA, KIA April 6, 2013, Zabul, Afghanistan
SGT Luis A. Oliver Galbreath, USA, KIA August 16, 2012, Kandahar, Afg.
SGT Jose J. Reyes-Cruz, USA, KIA July 18, 2012, Afghanistan
SGT Louie Ramos-Velázquez, USA, KIA May 26, 2011, Kandahar, Afg.
SGT José M. Caraballo-Pietri, USA, KIA April 10, 2011, Badghis, Afghanistan
SGT José M. Cintrón-Rosado, USA, KIA January 2, 2011, Taji, Iraq
SPC José A. Delgado-Arroyo, USA, KIA January 2, 2011, Taji, Iraq
PVT Francheska Velez and her unborn child, USA, KIA, November 5, 2009, Fort Hood, Texas
SPC Israel Candelaria Mejías, USA, KIA April 5, 2009, Near Baghdad, Iraq
SrA Jonathan Vega Yelner, USAF, KIA April 29, 2008, Near Bagram AB, Afghanistan
CPT Ulises Burgos-Cruz, USA, KIA April 6, 2008, Balad, Iraq
SGT Ricardo X. Rodríguez, USA, KIA October 4, 2007, Bayji, Iraq
SSG Wilberto Suliveras, KIA July 29, 2007, Taji, Iraq
CPT Maria I. Ortiz, USA, KIA July 10, 2007, Baghdad, Iraq
CPT Anthony Palermo, USA, KIA April 6, 2007, Baghdad, Iraq
SGT David A. Mejías, USA, KIA April 1, 2007, Baghdad, Iraq
SPC Jason Nuñez, USA, KIA March 25, 2007, Baqubah, Iraq
SGT Eduardo Santini, USA, KIA March 17, 2007, Baghdad, Iraq
SSG Karl O. Soto-Pinedo, USA, KIA Feb. 27, 2007, Baghdad, Iraq
SSG Jesus M. Montalvo, USA, KIA Oct.18, 2006, Baghdad, Iraq
LCpl Yull Estrada Rodriguez, USMC, KIA Sept. 20, 2006, Al Anbar, Iraq SSG Irving Hernandez, Jr., USA, KIA Jun. 12, 2006, Mosul, Iraq
SGT Jose M. Velez, USA, KIA June 9, 2006, Kirkuk, Iraq
1SG Robert Mendez, USA, KIA April 27, 2006, Baghdad, Iraq
SSG Luis M. Melendez, USAF, KIA Feb. 17, 2006, Gulf of Aden
LCpl Orville Gerena, USMC, KIA Feb. 6, 2006, Hit, Iraq
SGT Radhames Camilo-Matos, USA, KIA Jan. 7, 2006, Taji, Iraq
SGT Jason Lopez-Reyes, USA, KIA Jan. 5, 2006, Baghdad, Iraq
CWO Isaias Santos, USA, KIA Dec. 26, 2005, Baghdad, Iraq
SPC William Lopez-Feliciano, USA, KIA Dec. 22, 2005, Baghdad, Iraq
SSG Milton Rivera-Vargas, USA, KIA Dec. 8, 2005, Kirkuk, Iraq
SPC Javier A. Villanueva, USA, KIA Nov. 24, 2005, Hit, Iraq
SPC Alexis Roman-Cruz, USA, KIA Nov. 16, 2005, Balad, Iraq
PFC Antonio Mendez-Sanchez, USA, KIA Nov. 11, 2005, Kirkut, Iraq
SFC Ramon A. Acevedo, USA, KIA Oct. 26, 2005, Rustamiyah, Iraq
1LT Carlos J. Diaz, USA, KIA Aug. 23, 2005, Baqubah, Iraq
SPC Miguel Carrasquillo, USA, KIA Aug. 9, 2005, Baghdad, Iraq
PFC Emmanuel Hernandez, USA, KIA June 8, 2005, Shkin, Afghanistan
SGT Miguel A. Ramos, USA, KIA May 31, 2005, Baghdad, Iraq
MAJ Ricardo A. Crocker-Garcia, USA, KIA May 26, 2005, Haditah, Iraq
SGT Angelo Lozada, Jr., USA, KIA Apr. 16, 2005, Ramadi, Iraq
SPC Alenia Ramirez-Gonzalez, USA, KIA Apr. 15, 2005, Tikrit, Iraq
MSG Edwin Matos-Colon, USA, KIA Apr. 6, 2005, Afghanistan
CWO David Ayala-Rodriguez, USA, KIA Apr. 6 2005, Afghanistan
SPC Francisco G. Martinez, USA, KIA March 20, 2005, Tamin, Iraq
SPC Lizbeth Robles, USA, KIA March 1, 2005, Bayji, Iraq
SGT Julio E. Negron, USA, KIA Feb. 28, 2005, Bayji, Iraq
SGT Carlos J. Gil, USA, KIA Feb. 18, 2005, Humaniyah, Iraq
SFC Pedro A. Muñoz, USA, KIA Jan. 2, 2005, Shindand, Afghanistan
SPC Jose Rivera-Serrano, USA, KIA Dec. 27, 2004, Baghdad, Iraq
SSG Henry E. Irizarry, USA, KIA Dec. 3, 2004, Taji, Iraq
SGT Carlos Camacho-Rivera, USA, KIA Nov. 5, 2004, Fallujah, Iraq
LCpl Ramon Mateo, USMC, KIA Sept. 24, 2004, Al Anbar, Iraq
SPC Michael A. Martinez, USA, KIA Sept. 8, 2004, Baqubah, Iraq
SSG Gary A. Vaillant, USA, KIA Sept. 5, 2004, Khalidiya, Iraq
SPC Jacob D. Martir, USA, KIA Aug. 18, 2004, Iraq
SGT Melvin Mora-Lopez, USA, KIA June 6, 2004, Camp Cooke, Iraq
PO3 Fernando Mendez-Aceves, USN, KIA Apr. 6, 2004, Al Anbar, Iraq
SFC Jose A. Rivera, USA, KIA Nov. 5, 2003, Mahmudiyah, Iraq
SGT Francisco Martinez, USA, Nov. 4, 2003, Baghdad, Iraq
SGT Joel Perez, USA, KIA Nov. 2, 2003, Fallujah, Iraq
SPC Frances M. Vega, USA, KIA Nov. 2, 2003, Fallujah, Iraq
SGT Juan M. Serrano, USA, KIA July 24, 2003, Baghdad, Iraq
SPC Ramon Reyes-Torres, USA, KIA July 16, 2003, Baghdad, Iraq
SPC Kelvin Feliciano-Gutierrez, USA, KIA June 28, 2003, Bagram AB, Afghanistan
SPC Richard P. Orengo, USA, KIA June 26, 2003, Najaf, Iraq
SPC Gil Mercado, USA, KIA April 13, 2003, Iraq
SGT Orlando Morales, USA, KIA March 29, 2003, Helmaud, Afghanistan
LCpl Robert M. Rodriguez, USMC, KIA March 27, 2003, Al Nasiriyah, Iraq


9 posted on 08/01/2013 11:32:24 AM PDT by cll (Serviam!)
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To: Cowboy Bob

See post number 9, to start with.


10 posted on 08/01/2013 11:33:29 AM PDT by cll (Serviam!)
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To: cll

The probably dont want to pay the taxes it would involve...


11 posted on 08/01/2013 11:33:36 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: cll

Humor dude...


12 posted on 08/01/2013 11:38:03 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative

:-P


13 posted on 08/01/2013 11:40:51 AM PDT by cll (Serviam!)
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To: cll

You may bring in PR if We get to create a new state out of part of California or Colorado.


14 posted on 08/01/2013 11:43:48 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: cll

PR really has the best of both worlds today. I can understand the desire for independence, but statehood is out of the question por mi. Senator Murkowski, was the CZ a territory when John McCain was born there?


15 posted on 08/01/2013 11:45:39 AM PDT by Southern Partisan (In NYC you can be fined for spitting on the subway. You can, however, throw-up for free.)
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To: cll

Puerto Rican lawmakers Luis Gutiérrez (D-Ill.) and Nydia Velázquez (D-N.Y.)

I am confused, are these lawmakers American or Puerto Rican? When will this end? If you are American you do what is best for America, if they want to be Puerto Rican let them hit the next flight out!


16 posted on 08/01/2013 11:46:40 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: cll

bttt


17 posted on 08/01/2013 11:46:51 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Mastador1

Well, I am Puerto Rican and that makes me an American. Just like a Texan is an American.

In the case of Luis Gutierrez, he was born in Chicago of Puerto Rican parents. Nydia Velazquez was born in Puerto Rico but has resided in New York since she was a teenager, I believe.

But both are despicable, IMHO.


18 posted on 08/01/2013 11:51:39 AM PDT by cll (Serviam!)
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To: Cowboy Bob
What do they bring to the table if they want statehood?

Two guaranteed democratic senators and about 6 guaranteed democratic kongressmen.

19 posted on 08/01/2013 11:57:47 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: cll
I can't imagine why PR would want to be a state. What would they gain ?

PR citizens have the social service and other protections like mainland residents but less of a tax burden.

I'd estimate 95 percent of Puerto Ricans speak only Spanish.
Is English taught in PR schools ?

20 posted on 08/01/2013 12:03:52 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

“Is English taught in PR schools?”

Yes. Not very well in public schools, but yes, English is a mandatory language through 12th grade. In college, commercial English is a required subject for all business degrees. And both English and Spanish are the official languages of Puerto Rico.


21 posted on 08/01/2013 12:07:25 PM PDT by cll (Serviam!)
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To: cll
¡Independencia Hoy!
22 posted on 08/01/2013 12:43:10 PM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Is John's moustache long enough YET?)
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To: cll

We should let Puerto Rico have independence. They bring nothing to the table and they are a tremendous drain on social security and other entitlements. If we let PR go, we could probably pay entitlements for several states.


23 posted on 08/01/2013 12:48:43 PM PDT by JT Hatter (Who is Barack Obama? And What is He Really Up To?)
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To: cll

PR should never be a state. Independence, then.


24 posted on 08/01/2013 1:14:30 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: cll
There are no good choices. If Puerto Rico became independent, it would soon be governed by someone like Fidel Castro or Hugo Chavez, who would bring poverty through Socialism, blame the poverty on the US, and provide a haven for enemies of the US. If PR became a state, it would end up like Quebec, an unassimilatable thorn in the side of the rest of the US, with demands that the US officially become bilingual, all signs in both English & Spanish, etc.

Pick your poison.

25 posted on 08/01/2013 4:40:12 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney ( New book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. Buy from Amazon.)
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To: Southern Partisan

Senator Murkowski, was the CZ a territory when John McCain was born there?
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McCain’s parents were stationed in the PCZ, but he was actually born at a hospital in the country of Panama instead of at the base hospital.


26 posted on 08/01/2013 5:55:49 PM PDT by octex
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To: JoeFromSidney

If PR became a state, it would end up like Quebec, an unassimilatable thorn in the side of the rest of the US,...
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Yep. Sorta like Hawaii has been; they love the tourist dollars, but hate mainlanders.

No benefit to PR to become a State and have to pay taxes to the Feds. Only benefit would be to Dem Party.


27 posted on 08/01/2013 6:04:20 PM PDT by octex
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To: cll

NO, Republicans should not allow this unless the Democrats agree to the state of Northern Colorado and Eastern/Northern Califoria/The State of Jefferson)!!


28 posted on 08/01/2013 9:24:46 PM PDT by JSDude1 (Is John Boehner the Neville Chamberlain of American Politics?)
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