I coulda been a contender.
Posted on 08/01/2013 12:01:26 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Via Mediaite, he’s making a point about inexperience. I’m … just not sure which point. It’s true, Obama had little experience as a federal legislator (and zippo as an executive) before running for president, and look how little he’s accomplished. But is that a function of “inexperience” or a function of other variables, like greater partisan polarization and Obama’s disdain for doing the sort of congressional outreach needed to pass bills? Rubio and Paul will each have served a few years more than Obama did in the Senate by election day 2016. They each also have some cred in working with people across the aisle, Rubio famously with the Gang of Eight and Paul on civil liberties. What is it that the two of them are going to learn by serving another six years in the Senate? Building friendships with colleagues is valuable, but it’s hard for me to believe the lefty base will be willing to tolerate Democrats partnering with President Rubio on major bills in 2025 any more than they would circa 2017. Knocking a candidate for inexperience is effective viscerally — “why should I trust a newbie with the most important job in the world?” — but the specific concerns related to it are rarely articulated. What are they?
Speaking of 2016, though, Ramesh Ponnuru makes a smart point about Rubio’s predicament:
If Marco Rubio is planning to seek the presidency in 2016, he is doing it in an unusual way. In office he has allied with the most conservative elements of the party on almost every issue — but has split with the base on one important issue, immigration. His boosters say that this issue will not doom his campaign, noting that John McCain won the nomination in 2008 even though conservative activists had vocally opposed him on immigration in 2006 and 2007. The difference is that McCain’s overall record was well to the left of Rubio’s, giving him a base of support among moderate Republicans. Rubio could — repeat: could — end up in a no-man’s-land, too far right to win those voters who identify as “moderately conservative” but too heterodox to win those who consider themselves “very conservative.”
If you want a staunch conservative, you go with Paul or Cruz. If you want a centrist with electability cred, you go with Christie. What’s the argument for Rubio? The answer, I’d say, is that he’s a potential compromise candidate. The Christie fans won’t accept Paul or Cruz; the Paul and Cruz fans won’t accept Christie. Rubio’s the not-too-hot-not-too-cold bowl of porridge on whom some centrists and righties will settle as a guy who can potentially unite the two wings of the party in a way that the other three can’t. Walker might play the same role; Ponnuru names him as a guy in the mold of Tim Pawlenty who’s kinda conservative but also kinda establishment and therefore deeply appealing to no one. I think, though, that Republicans might tolerate a nominee like that in 2016 in a way that they didn’t in 2012. The risk of a self-destructive party split between centrists and conservatives in the next cycle seems considerably higher than it did in the past two cycles. If the Christie/Paul bitterness between hawks and doves deepens, you may see Beltway GOPers start looking around for a more conservative establishment champion whose nomination will reduce the risk of people staying home in the general election. That’s Rubio or Walker, provided that they do something to reach out to libertarians before 2016 the same way that Paul will need to do something to reach out to hawks.
And this, needless to say, is the value of Rubio’s immigration play to his chances. He can basically be as conservative as he wants from here on out; he’s already proved to Republican donors that he’s not afraid to take their side against the base on a top-flight policy issue. They can fund him in the assumption that he’ll do that again as president, and the base can vote for him in the assumption that he’s learned his lesson after taking a beating for his amnesty shilling and won’t cross them again. Not too hot, not too cold. Someone’s going to end up being disappointed.
“They haven’t even killed one intern yet!”
and zero was SO qualified ????
Personally, I’m wondering how this crazy Japanese guy named Joe Scarborough was ever elected to the US House of Representatives.
I guess we have proven definitively that junior senators make really terrible presidents.
How many interns does a guy have to kill to be president around here?
I coulda been a contender.
Obama did NOTHING absolutely NOTHING to qualify to be President...INCLUDING BEING a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!!!
Hmmmm, well Joe, those that can do and those that do not pack the gear to serve work for PMSNBC...
Damn near as ill-equipped as Obama. But at least they’re not 100% constitution-hating, America-hating, spread-the-wealth-around Marxists.
This from a guy who voted for Obama TWICE and had a dead intern found in his office
It’s funny ‘cuz Joe Scarborough is well qualified to be a liberal tool for MSNBC
Nobody could be more unqualified than that thing in the White House now.
Unlike some half caste communist demoncrats?
Kinda like the left being concerned about Michele Bachmann’s headaches disqualifying her for the presidency but Hillary Clinton is “uniquely qualified” despite being so brain damaged by a concussion that she had to skip out on Benghazi hearings.
Sorry Cup ‘O Joe, your guy Obama has already proven over the past five years that anybody, no matter how illiterate or incompetent they are, can be POTUS.
Let’s face it, new senators like BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA are ill-equipped to be president...............
Oh, I don't know. He's almost completely destroyed the American way of life. That's a hell of an accomplishment.
Electability cred? This is a small part of why we are doomed.
Tell us Joe....how qualified was / is Barack Hussein Obama?
We’re preaching to the choir here.
And what qualifies Scarborough to judge?????
Joe, so we can be more precise, I had more experience running a lemon aid stand, businesses, military and diplomatic, than both 0bama and Biden COMBINED as of Nov 2008.
So, anyone (whether Kenyan or Canadian) can be president Joe, right?
5.56mm
I think Scarborough’s got the “hots” for Hillary...*YECCCHHHH*
And Obama was qualified?
Rubio is not a viable candidate if we want to win. Like many voters, I will choose a third party if that liberal is the GOP nominee, and I hope the party leadership understands that it is time for a conservative. As for Rand Paul, he worries me because of his father’s quirks, but I would consider him.
Who would I like to see? Perhaps a former Governor of a particularly large state, such as Alaska, both because she is by far the best qualified person for the job and because I like watching liberal heads explode.
Hey...Barry the Boob was deemed qualified after serving in the Senate for about 17 minutes. Both Rubio and Cruz are way ahead of Barry the Boob in the experience department.
We may be, but you know there are lurkers on the left that monitor everything we post.............
and somebody who voted “present” more often than not was qualified?
” And what qualifies Scarborough to judge?????”
I guess you missed Forbes new annual magazine “ 400 Richest Whores in America”
Scarborough has am inorganic brain.
you and me both
They are certainly more experienced than Obama was - or is.
They couldn't be president?? What a load of BS...
Joe, you couldn't carry their water...please join the Dems.
If you want a centrist with electability cred, you go with Christie.
Hey Scabby, wasn’t Obama a new Senator?
My comment was for the period he “served” as an IL state senator. His US senate record is lower than dog crap on my shoe soles.
As opposed to the C student from Kenya/Indonesia sitting in the Oval Office right now?
Has anyone ever heard this guy criticize a Democrat? Ever?
He was Gary Condit's best friend in the House.
-PJ
RE: As opposed to the C student from Kenya/Indonesia sitting in the Oval Office right now?
So, you finally got hold of his student records everyone craves to see?
Let’s face it, anything Joe Scarborough has to say isn’t relevant.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, Scarborough claims Rubio and Rand Paul “ill-equipped” to be president and odumbo was? Odumbo hd the least of ANY experienced congressman or senator ever to get the be president, not to mention he isn’t even a citizen of our country.
Odumbo needs to be in prison.
But OBOZO was superbly equipped and prepared to be POTUS because he was a”Community Organizer”?So was Adolph Hitler!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey JOE!!!
Is is even possible for anybody to be less equipped to be President of these United States, than Barack Obama?
Let’s face it: ALL Senators are ill-equipped to be President. I have to go all the way back to Harry S Truman to find a Senator who made a decent President. There is a great difference between being a legislator and being a chief executive.
RE: . I have to go all the way back to Harry S Truman to find a Senator who made a decent President.
I gather you don’t like JFK...
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