L.A., Chicago Rank 1 and 2 for Gun Murders; N.O. Has Highest Rate

Cybercast News Service ^ | August 2, 2013 - 12:14 PM | Terence P. Jeffrey

[Olog-hai]

The Los Angeles and Chicago metropolitan areas had the most gun murders among the nation’s fifty most-populous metropolitan areas in 2009 and 2010 (the latest years for which data is available), according to a report released today by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. …

The New Orleans metropolitan area, however, had the highest rate of gun murders, with 19 out of every 100,000 people in the area being gunned to death in 2009-2010. …

[null and void]

But but but doesn’t Chicago have Total Gun Control???

[pallis]

This must be all that white on black crime Jesse and the race-baiters talk about.

[DonaldC]

I’m sure there is a trend here...just what could it be.

[SeekAndFind]

Not sure how New York got on that list, but according to this site , These are New York City's numbers:

The city's press release was full of bragging:

With the decrease in murder, New York’s murder rate has fallen to 3.8 homicides per 100,000 residents. New York City has a far lower murder rate than other major American cities. For example:

· If New York City had the same murder rate as Washington DC, New York City would have a total of 1,100 murdered this year.
· If New York City had Chicago’s murder rate, New York City would have a total of more than 1,400 murders this year.
· If New York City had Philadelphia’s murder rate, New York City would have a total of more than 1,700 murders this year.
· If New York City had Baltimore’s murder rate, New York City would have a total of more than 2,870 murders this year.
· If New York City had Detroit’s murder rate, New York City would have a total of nearly 4,400 murders this year.

While NYC is definitely much safer now than in the past (2,245 murders in 1990!) and does better than other major U.S. cities, the NYC murder rate lags behind other countries like France and Japan.

More stats: "Guns remained the leading cause of murder in New York City again this year. Of the 414 homicides so far this year, 237 were by firearms. This is 61 fewer gun related murders than last year, a decrease of 20 percent. In 2001, there were 371 gun related murders, 36 percent more than this year."

[Resolute Conservative]

Notice the immediate rise in mid 60’s, about the time of the rabid hippie movements and racial equality. ???

[DoughtyOne]

		Murder Stats
		Overall No of Gun Murders				Gun Murders of 10-19 Year Olds
	1	Los Angeles	1141		1	Los Angeles	251
	2	Chicago	1139		2	Chicago	213
	3	New York	1101		3	New York	203
	4	Philadelphia	729		4	Philadelphia	124
	5	Houston	701		5	Detroit	119
	6	Detroit	686		6	San Francisco	101
	7	Miami	594		7	Houston	83
	8	Dallas	469		8	Saint Louis	82
	9	Washington	440		9	Miami	81
	10	San Francisco	439		10	Washington, D. C.	76
		Gun Murders per 100,000				Gun Murders Per 100k 10-19 Year Olds
	1	New Orleans	19.0		1	New Orleans	25.6
	2	Memphis	9.4		2	Kansas City	11.3
	3	Detroit	8.6		3	Memphis	10.7
	4	Birmingham	8.4		4	Saint Louis	10.6
	5	Saint Louis	8.1		5	San Francisco	9.9
	6	Baltimore	7.7		6	Detroit	9.5
	7	Jacksonville	7.4		7	Chicago	7.9
	8	Kansas City	6.8		8	Philadelphia	7.5
	9	Philadelphia	6.2		9	Jacksonville	7.1
	10	no data provided	0.0		10	Los Angeles	6.7
		as reported: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/la-chicago-rank-1-and-2-gun-murders-no-has-highest-rate

Reports get a little shakey for me when something is made out of the most of anything happening
in the largest of cities.  Most murders took place in our biggest cities.  Go figure...

In other reports based on per 100,000, these cities drop way down or off the chart.



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[DoughtyOne]

I think the driver there was not so much these movements, but the Great Society programs, whose immediate effect was to drive family conditions in the direction that would create what has taken place.

[Buffalo Head]

Thanks for the post.

[DoughtyOne]

My pleasure. The charts were over at the link. I just modified the format a bit and brought them over.

[Resolute Conservative]

Yes I agree.

[WayneS]

And the rise of more restrictive gun laws in the aftermath of the Kennedys’ and MLK assassinations.

[GOPJ]

If New York City had Detroit’s murder rate, New York City would have a total of nearly 4,400 murders this year.

Black cities are dangerous places.

[DoughtyOne]

Thanks. I’m glad...

[Blood of Tyrants]

I’ll bite. They are all conservative strongholds with white people white people who hate Obama.

[Standing Wolf]

Why, those mean nasty dangerous murderous scary white racist Tea partiers!

[Jeff Chandler]

Phoenix – Mesa – Scottsdale, AZ

All Ages
Years 2009–2010
Firearm homicides 331
Rate 4.0

Aged 10–19 yrs
Firearm homicides 39
Rate 3.2

[Jeff Chandler]

Guns remained the leading cause of murder in New York City again this year.

Guns don't cause murders. Murderous use of guns cause murders.

[VanShuyten]

That list looks suspiciously like the list of financially failing cities recently posted here.

Hmmmmm....

[marktwain]

Any statistic that looks at “gun murders” instead of total murders is misleading, essentially propaganda.

Only total murders count. If you reduce “gun murders” but total murders go up, you have done harm, not good.

Consider “Hospital Deaths”. You can eliminate all “hospital deaths” by eliminating hospitals, but the total number of deaths will rise considerably.