Skip to comments.23 Ways of Poking Fun at Libertarians
Posted on 08/03/2013 6:35:31 AM PDT by Kaslin
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Social conservatives created this nation, they would have been lynching libertarians in 1790.
The libertarian/left agenda has made it's fantastic replacement of social conservatism only within the last 50 years, and it has been a disaster.
What’s your position on dope, condoms, gay marriage and abortion? Do we hit a quartet?
“Dopertarians seem unaware that abortion, adultery, and pretty much all of their sexual immorality was strictly regulated in 1870. History is not their forte.”
Adultery was tolerated, and prostitution was legal a whole lot of places. I’m generally with you on the abortion thing, but willing to leave it to state law.
The downsides of oppressive government (particularly Federal government) regulation far outweigh the benefits. Government, in particular, should have nothing to do with marriage - it is a religious ceremony.
“No queer marriage, no abortion, school prayer, must be 21 to vote, no women voting, women couldnt own property, unrestricted gun ownership.”
I’m quite sure women could own property LOL!
As to women voting, I’m a bit conflicted on that one... ;-)
You got all wrong. I don’t hate social conservatives and their desire for a complete theological state. I hate the ones who can’t understand that there are issues that should be left up to the individual states instead of the fed.
“Liberaltarian = A liberal that likes guns but doesnt want to pay taxes.
Beyond that there is no difference!”
You forgot the “small, limited government” and “free market” parts. Of course there are plenty of “big government” “conservatives”. lol
So you think due process is a lefty agenda? That’s exactly what you are implying.
Every leftist I've ever known considers libertarians the radical right!
Oh for crying out loud, you take an opening quote of candidate Reagan in an 1975 interview for a libertarian audience in a tiny libertarian magazine, where he opens with a typical Reagan mention of common ground on economics before he gets around to explaining why he isn't a libertarian, and you think that makes the great CONSERVATIVE hero a libertarian, which he never was.
Reagan is a hero to conservatives, he rallied the religious right, the national defense right, and the economic right, not libertarians, in fact the libertarians best election in history, was running against Reagan in 1980.
“Theres a pretty easy way to differentiate between a conservative and a libertarian. Go through these issues with a person:”
As with anything, there’s a range of opinion among libertarians. That’s like saying all Republicans favor the death penalty - it just ain’t so, Joe.
Uppercase L versus lowercase L is drastic difference. Uppercase Libertarian Party types are basically 50% low empathy Hedonists... Anarchists, clinical or subclinical sociopaths.
Lowercase L liberatians believe in the rule of law, the original intent of the Constitution, the purpose and scope of federal government, and attest to the the Milton Friedman take on private enterprise and free market capitalism as being the best, most natural, economic model.
I look forward to a shift within the Republican Party away from the Rove douchebaggery... we have some good voices for the direction we should be taking here... run with it.
Rand is part of this process that I welcome... as a conservative leaning libertarian.
Flame away... "you are not a real conservative... blah blah DU Troll blah blah blah".
I'll be comforted in knowing I ain't alone here.
Depends on the topic doesn't it.
They agree on abortion, gays, open borders, drugs, porn, etc.
They both agree that conservatives are the problem that has to be overcome.
Libers also support full advertising and marketing of the crack and heroin and future concoctions and combinations.
These problems mostly solve themselves as tragedies become lessons for others. Sometimes that's a person's only purpose -- to serve as a warning to others. Libertarians see government interference in these things as a waste of time at best.
But while the government is trying to fight these problems, innocent people are being shot in drug gang conflicts. People have their heads cut off as the members of drug empires send a message to rivals. And a police force militarized to combat these gangs have SWAT teams breaking in doors and shooting innocent people and pets.
This declaration of war against drugs has turned some cities into war zones and entire nations into battlefields.
The problem with people that want to maintain the war on drugs is that they're too eager to protect people from drugs.
But if the choice is between people dying from drug abuse and people being killed in drug war cross-fire, I'll pick people dying from drug abuse. I can avoid drug abuse much more easily than I can the consequences of the drug war.
I'm selfish that way. If a person wants to kill themselves with drugs, that's tragic, but I'm not going to sacrifice myself and my city and reasonable police power to help them.
just like spousal visas is a state issue?
There is no difference.
Where is this little l agenda of social conservatism, of forbidding homosexuality in the military and gay marriage, drugs, etc that is viciously at war with the Libertarians stealing their name?
I’d rather poke fun at liberals.
I have much more in common with the Libertarians that I personally know than I EVER will have with liberals. There are some differences of opinion, sure. But by and large, we’re in the same fighting holes.
They support individual liberty and freedom; so do I.
They support capitalism; so do I.
They support gun rights: so do I.
They support sensible taxation: so do I.
They support less government intrusion: so do I.
They’re opposed to socialism, communism, fascism: So am I.
They’re opposed to “redistribution of wealth”: so am I.
They’re opposed to ANY form of “tyranny over the minds of man”: so am I.
I prefer not to alienate potential allies. Especially when the hour is as late as it is in the life of my Country, and we’re pressed on all sides by democrat barbarian hordes as it were.
To each their own, I guess.
Aside from your ridiculous but sick idea that death removes the problem of drug use which it clearly doesn’t, those people vote by the millions.
You don’t seem to realize that the ghetto social agenda of the libers, and open borders goal, produces liberal voters, not conservative voters.
The libertarian agenda listed in post 93 only creates a larger voter base for bigger government and more programs.
It all makes economic conservatism impossible.
I’ll make a diligent search for libertarians who support Obamacare and think that anyone should be forced to pay for anyones else’s condoms. I would love to debate such a person. Can you help me get started on that search, since you seem to know?
You mean they support abortion, homosexual marriage and adoption, gays in the military and so on, closing down the Border Patrol and INS to truly open the borders, etc.
Talk about bastardizing the language, they are part of the radical left, not of traditional America.
The liberal response to that is to increase government support. How and why would “conservative economics” disagree?