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Benghazi Leads to Iran, Not Al Qaeda
Arutz Sheva ^ | 8-3-2013 | Mark Langfan

Posted on 08/03/2013 1:24:47 PM PDT by smoothsailing

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1 posted on 08/03/2013 1:24:47 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

No, it leads to the Muslim Brotherhood...


2 posted on 08/03/2013 1:26:37 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: smoothsailing
"What difference does it make?"


3 posted on 08/03/2013 1:28:32 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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4 posted on 08/03/2013 1:31:48 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: MestaMachine

ping


5 posted on 08/03/2013 1:32:05 PM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil.)
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To: piytar
Yep, it leads to Hillary's friend Morsi. There is a man in a video from the night of the attack saying "Don't shoot.. We were sent by Morsi"

What a dilemma.. Hillary backs Morsi and Morsi attacks the Embassy to get Stevens as hostage to get the Blind Sheik released.

Kind of difficult for 0bama/Hillary to announce that the people who did it are the ones they back, and the ones the U.S. taxpayers were funding in Egypt. Now 0bama is paying ANYONE in Egypt with knowledge to keep their mouths shut. 0bama is BIG on hush money. Lots of lies to keep secret.

6 posted on 08/03/2013 1:39:33 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: smoothsailing
So, Obama's real fear is not that he ran guns to al Qaeda, but that if this were known, al Qaeda would be removed as the possible suspect in the murder of Ambassador Stevens and three Americans.

Plausible. But, certainly something big is being covered up.

7 posted on 08/03/2013 1:40:58 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (The Lefties can drink Kool-Aid; I will drink Tea.)
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To: piytar

Why? What was in it for them?


8 posted on 08/03/2013 1:44:11 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing
Why is Obama administering lie detector exams every few days to all the CIA operatives who were in Benghazi?

If that is really happening then why would any of those people think there life will go on much longer?

9 posted on 08/03/2013 1:44:29 PM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: piytar; elpadre; edpc
No, it leads to the Muslim Brotherhood...

The article address that possibility albeit indirectly. I make this connection: The Muslim Brotherhood supports al Qaeda and to a lesser extent the other Syrian rebels, the current beneficiaries of the arms that move from Libya to Turkey to Syria.

Why on earth would the Muslim Brotherhood want to interfere with that flow?

The answer is they wouldn't. The article speculates that it is the Iranians who would want to put the crunch on such an operation. Not a bad theory.

I speculated in an earlier thread that the Libya to Turkey to Syria operation might somehow be bypassing the al-Qaeda rebels. Although that seems unlikely it is a possible motive that would give some credence to your Muslim Brotherhood theory. Particularly if al-Qaeda has independent means to secure Libyan weapons and view the CIA operation as a competitor.

10 posted on 08/03/2013 1:44:56 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Rocky; annieokie; penelopesire; maggief; Protect the Bill of Rights; thouworm; SE Mom; Nachum; ...
So now, my oft repeated statement that 0baba sides with Iran doesn't sound so silly? Hmmmm. Or that formal and friendly relations between Iran and the mb was achieved when morsi went to Iran and got the hug?

Imagine that.

Anyone wanting on or off this ping list, please advise.


11 posted on 08/03/2013 1:45:48 PM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work, You gotta earn them.)
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To: VRW Conspirator
Plausible. But, certainly something big is being covered up. <<

IMHO...It was a hit!..Stevens had to go...he knew too much and was balking!

12 posted on 08/03/2013 1:48:34 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: smoothsailing

I can’t believe this could happen. Didn’t Obama push the Reset button? Wasn’t that supposed to repair our relations with Iran, Russia, all Islamic nations?


13 posted on 08/03/2013 1:50:39 PM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil.)
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To: M-cubed
IMHO...It was a hit!..Stevens had to go...he knew too much and was balking!

We can add you to the list:

1. Scheme to make a trade for the Blind Sheik that went bad.

2. Iranian operation to stop the flow of arms to the Syrian rebels.

3. Egyptian/MB operation to stop the flow of arms to the Syrian rebels because al Qaeda was being cut out.

4. Obama needed to hit Stevens. The MB stepped in and did the job for him.

I'm sure I missed a couple at least.

14 posted on 08/03/2013 1:53:23 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: InterceptPoint

Morsi needed a high-profile American hostage that he knew 0bama would trade the Blind Sheik for because 0bama would NEVER allow an Ambassador being held hostage looming over his head right before the election.. No way, no how. Hillary might have opened the door for Morsi by reducing/refusing security for Stevens.. Perhaps she didn’t want 0bama to get re-elected, either. She’s running in 2016 and he’d be a hard act for the Democrats to want to follow (if there’s a country left by then).


15 posted on 08/03/2013 2:05:09 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: smoothsailing
In that case, Obama's "unprecedented" lie detector exams tazing CIA Benghazi operatives into silence is really an attempt to protect Iran from being exposed as the likely murderer of an American Ambassador and 3 of his valiant protectors. And that begs an even bigger questions.

Russia has deep interests in Syria and Assad.

16 posted on 08/03/2013 2:07:48 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: smoothsailing

Iteresting speculation.


17 posted on 08/03/2013 2:15:23 PM PDT by VietVet (I am old enough to know who I am and what I believe, and I 'm not inclined to apologize for any of)
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To: CivilWarBrewing
Morsi, Blind Sheik, American Ambassador, exchange just before an election.

I just can't buy into that. Yes Morsi is crazy enough to do it but this couldn't have been a planned deal with Obama. No chance.

The odd thing in all of this is that it seems clear that Obama just washed his hands of it so quickly. He was AWOL that night. Yes he was off to service his highest priority the following day (fundraising, of course) but I'm still waiting for an explanation of what he was doing on the night of the Benghazi strike.

18 posted on 08/03/2013 2:16:23 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Bingo... I’d bet money on the Russians being the ones who coordinated this attack. And, THAT is the reason Obama didn’t respond... he was afraid.


19 posted on 08/03/2013 2:18:02 PM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in governm<p>ent. If any were, business would hire them f)
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To: smoothsailing

bttt


20 posted on 08/03/2013 2:18:38 PM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: smoothsailing

Mere speculation not yet based on facts. I’m wary of removing blame from al-Qaeda which has killed American citizens on American soil and placing it on Iran which hasn’t.


21 posted on 08/03/2013 2:19:01 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

My thought as well.


22 posted on 08/03/2013 2:26:21 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: smoothsailing
AQ is on the RUN!!!!!

WE WON, WE ONE, WE ONE!!!

Osama is dead, Osama is dead!!!

Now back to the real life world of REALITY!

Obama is the biggest threat to our security...ever.

23 posted on 08/03/2013 2:28:48 PM PDT by R0CK3T
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

I have a theory. Blackmail. From the Bruthas; Arm us or we blow up every one of your embassies in the middle east.

Obama decided he wanted to shut the program down before it got out of control. Morsi owed Obama for putting him in power. Morsi took care of shutting down the program.

Problem was, Morsi couldn’t close the deal. Now Obama is in the crapper and for some strange reason, Morsi is still alive. I believe Morsi is still alive because that is leverage for the Israelis.

Something every one seems to forget is Israeli and Egyptian generals have been talking for 30 years. Warriors talk and they hate the politicians. And Obama has screwed the both. Which of course explains why Obama came out day one condemning this then hasn’t said a word since.

So how does Obama save some face? Israel releases 100 terrorists who will either be killed in air strikes or the Egyptian military will make them disappear. And Israel agrees to come back to the negotiating table with the Palestinians who are anti Hamas, or anti Bruthas.

But one thing had to tie it all together into a nice tight package. It’s the Mediacrats job to keep this from the American people. We need a squirrel... Hello George Zimmerman and Eric Snowden.


24 posted on 08/03/2013 2:32:10 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: smoothsailing
Reduced security at Benghazi.. Hint Hint
Morsi's main mission in life was to free the Blind Sheik! Hint hint

Mohamed Morsi, Egypt's New President, Vows To Free Blind Sheikh Tied To WTC Bombing

Morsi: I want the US to free the Blind Sheikh

Egypt's new president vows to free blind sheikh tied to 1993 WTC bombing

SEPT. 24, 2012:

Egypt’s President Morsi: ‘I Will Do Everything in My Power to Secure Freedom’ For the Blind Sheikh

SEPT. 17, 2012:

Source: State Department Considering Talks to Transfer ‘Blind Sheikh’ to Egypt

25 posted on 08/03/2013 2:33:57 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: InterceptPoint
Probably not planned by 0bama (more likely Hillary with reduced security), but wouldn't he be embarrassed to disclose to America that the people who did it was the very group he and Hillary told us were so wonderful for Egypt, the Muslim Brotherhood? Our tax dollars and all?

Embarrassing as HELL.

26 posted on 08/03/2013 2:36:34 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: musicman

MOOOOOSADD misdirection or not?


27 posted on 08/03/2013 2:44:10 PM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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Thanks smoothsailing.

And about time.


28 posted on 08/03/2013 2:44:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Pro-Putin = Pro-Iran = Pro-Jihad = Pro-Muslim Brotherhood)
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A map of the Sahel region showing where Al Qaeda operates (AFP/Graphic)

A map of the Sahel region showing where Al Qaeda operates (AFP/Graphic)


29 posted on 08/03/2013 2:46:31 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Pro-Putin = Pro-Iran = Pro-Jihad = Pro-Muslim Brotherhood)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

My theory is aviation blackmail. Want to keep that route? It’ll costya 1K every time you run it.

‘They’ fired two missiles at a Russian airliner that exploded just below the craft.

They’d only need a thousand missiles to keep the threat permanent.


30 posted on 08/03/2013 2:46:43 PM PDT by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework. OK?' - POSHITUS)
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To: smoothsailing
Actually, this article make some sense. Some of us underestimate the hatred Shiites have for Sunni, and vice versa.

Reminds me of Berlin, before 1933, when, for a time, it was not at all certain Hitler would end up head Nazi.


31 posted on 08/03/2013 2:58:28 PM PDT by Prospero (Si Deus trucido mihi, ego etiam fides Deus.)
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To: smoothsailing
Libya's prime minister went to Benghazi a few days after the consulate attack. He wanted to investigate Obama’s claims that rioters protesting a video were responsible. He said that the attack was conducted by a Libyan group who were paid and led by “foreigners.” These foreigners could have been from Syria, Iran or even Russia.
32 posted on 08/03/2013 3:02:15 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: smoothsailing
Is it to cover-up the fact that Obama was running guns to the Syrian rebels?

It wasn't just guns given to Al Qaeda. It was thousands of shoulder launched SAM's which WILL be someday used against American and European civilian airliners. The Al Qaeda arms pipeline was not well known back then. The Al Qaeda "security" forces in Benghazi were being run by the CIA. The SAMs had all been delivered and the CIA was burning down the pipeline, eliminating the witnesses and the evidence.

Unfortunately, a couple of SEALs refused to follow orders and threw a monkey wrench into the plot and now the whole world knows about what went on there. Don't look for anything to come of it though because the Republicrats and Dumbocans and all of Mordor on the Potomac think that arming Al Qaeda is a great idea. Hyping up the threat of scary A-rab terrorists is still the best way to scare the rubes in fly over country into giving up their freedom and money.

33 posted on 08/03/2013 3:08:03 PM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto
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To: CivilWarBrewing

is the blind sheik free?


34 posted on 08/03/2013 3:14:36 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: CivilWarBrewing

My problem with the Morsi theory is that it would have been insane. Don’t forget those F-16s that we hand over to Egypt. Would you risk sacrificing all that Foreign Aid to free an old, blind sheik rotting in a American jail.

Yes, Morsi could have. But it just seems too high risk for him to actually do it.

Despite all of this I somehow think the truth will come out and possibly soon. And maybe we I’ll find that Morsi is as crazy as you must think he is. And I have to admit that he didn’t read the Egyptian tea leaves very accurately.


35 posted on 08/03/2013 3:20:52 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: smoothsailing

It is possible that Putin slapped Obama’s face at Benghazi.


36 posted on 08/03/2013 3:23:39 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: smoothsailing
Why is Obama administering lie detector exams every few days to all the CIA operatives who were in Benghazi?

Maybe Obama asked these men - men who swore they would give up their lives to defend this country - to do something that verged on treason. And now he's afraid one of them might talk.

37 posted on 08/03/2013 3:24:13 PM PDT by GOPJ (Sob stories make bad law...)
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Squirrel + Squirrel =. Nuts


38 posted on 08/03/2013 3:30:47 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then)
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To: CivilWarBrewing
"Don't shoot.. We were sent by Morsi" What a dilemma.. Hillary backs Morsi and Morsi attacks the Embassy to get Stevens as hostage to get the Blind Sheik released.

That has all the brilliance and believability of "my dog ate my homework'...

39 posted on 08/03/2013 3:30:52 PM PDT by GOPJ (Sob stories make bad law...)
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To: smoothsailing

Look at the people involved in Benghazi. The people on the ground - hidden from the public. Our CIA Director - discredited and gone. Our Secretary of State - gone. Our Secretary of Defense - gone. This makes Watergate look like a kids birthday party.


40 posted on 08/03/2013 3:33:37 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Libya’s prime minister went to Benghazi a few days after the consulate attack. He wanted to investigate Obama’s claims that rioters protesting a video were responsible. He said that the attack was conducted by a Libyan group who were paid and led by “foreigners.” These foreigners could have been from Syria, Iran or even Russia.
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So who benefits from the attack? That is the key to figuring this out. Who were those foreigners?


41 posted on 08/03/2013 3:34:53 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: M-cubed
And that begs an even bigger questions. Why would Obama protect Iran from being exposed as a possible suspect? If Benghazi was a live CIA operation center, then Obama had to have known when it was being attacked that it was a live CIA operation center. Why, then, did Obama fail to take any particular interest in its immediate defense? In fact, if it was a live CIA operation, extraordinary measures should have been taken in its defense.

Maybe they were all suppose to die (CIA, SEALS, the whole bunch) and the center overrun and 'cleaned like a clock'... Obama stopped the FBI from going over there until after the place had been picked over by everyone INCLUDING CNN...

42 posted on 08/03/2013 3:35:39 PM PDT by GOPJ (Sob stories make bad law...)
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That has all the brilliance and believability of “my dog ate my homework’...
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I’m having a similar discussion with CWB.. Morsi is crazy but I don’t think he is that crazy.


43 posted on 08/03/2013 3:38:10 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: smoothsailing
(1) What was in this operation that would benefit Obama? IOW, how involved was he?
Remember the guy has not been attending nor read his PDBs on economy nor natl security. (Look, not finding excuses for Obama, but he's fully engaged in his re-election bid, he could be hands-off on the daily running of the national affairs) How literate is he on AQ, Muslim Brotherhood, Hezbollah, and other players, etc etc?

(2) They (Obama Gang) miscalculated the attack or the deaths of four Americans would be such a big deal, since media was completely in their pockets.

(3) Hilderbeast blackmailing,
she had the goods on Obama but didn't think him a serious threat to her 2012 bid. Now she's determined to have the 2016 seat.

44 posted on 08/03/2013 4:05:52 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: InterceptPoint
Who were those foreigners?

Who would have the greatest motive to stop arms flow to the Syrian rebels ? Number one would be Assad. Number two would be Iran/Hezbollha. Number three would be Russia. Either way the US government is never going to admit that its bumbling and stumbling has started WWIII and has caused Civil War within the middle East region. People that always lean forward never have to answer for their past. Have a nice and safe Sunday !

45 posted on 08/03/2013 4:15:05 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: InterceptPoint
Morsi is crazy but I don’t think he is that crazy.

More likely the Morsi people were extra security hired by the State Department/CIA under the radar or sent by Morsi to protect the arms pipeline. And as usual they would play all sides and request that their Muslim brethren not shoot them.

46 posted on 08/03/2013 4:20:12 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: smoothsailing
leads to the likely conclusion that Iran, and only Iran, had the motive to attack our Benghazi consulate and murder Ambassador Stevens.

Meh.

Iran's not a bad candidate, but why not RUSSIA? After all, Syria is their client since forever and the location of Russia's ONLY navy base in the Med.

The reason Russia isn't named is cuz Israel probably couldn't get the USA to attack Russia on behalf of Israel, but miiiight just prove able to get Iran.

Still, Iran is not a bad guess.

Brennan started out with the major Libyan/Turk/Syrian smuggling, but soon took to pink-misting the gents whom he didn't like out there, and their comrades had some fairly major complaints about that.

Those guys had foreign sponsorship in their attack, and it was either Russia or Iran.

Still, who in their right minds would wonder WHY Israel would prefer that America think the culprit was Iran...?

47 posted on 08/03/2013 4:24:00 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: justa-hairyape
Who would have the greatest motive to stop arms flow to the Syrian rebels ? Number one would be Assad. Number two would be Iran/Hezbollha. Number three would be Russia.

I agree with you. But I consider Russia a very, very long shot. Assad or Iran for sure.

So maybe the big secret is that we were attacked by some third rate country or countries and don't want to admit that we got caught with our pants down due to the incompetence of our President and Secretary of State.

I like it.

48 posted on 08/03/2013 4:35:56 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: piytar

I appreciate the comments, but I’m not sure that holds water, using the logic in the article. And I’m not saying I totally believe the article’s logic, but it is an interesting thought.

My problem with your suggesting, is that I don’t think the Muslim Brotherhood registers as negatively as Al Qaeda does on the political Richter scale. It would be even less an affront to American sensitivities than supplying Al Qaeda would be.

I’d have to say the Iran angle carries a lot more water here, if you’re truly desperate to hide something.

Now, what I don’t get, is why you arm Iran? How does that play into Bathhouse Barry’s game plan? Does he want Iraq and Afghanistan to come unglued that bad?

Is there another angle I’m missing?


49 posted on 08/03/2013 4:36:07 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Kill the bill... Begin enforcing our current laws, signed by President Ronald Reagan.)
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To: InterceptPoint

Benghazi was an Iranian/Russian hit


50 posted on 08/03/2013 5:08:03 PM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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