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Republicans go on attack—against others in GOP
Associated Press ^
| Aug 3, 2013 11:01 PM EDT
| David Espo
Posted on 08/03/2013 8:32:25 PM PDT by Olog-hai
The barbs are personal, the differences are multiplying among Republicans, a party divided over spending, foreign policy, a willingness to risk a government shutdown in order to defund the health care law and more.
I didn't start this one and I dont plan on starting things by criticizing other Republicans, Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky said recently as he and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie likened one another to various cuts of a butchered pig.
But if they want to make me the target, they will get it back in spades.
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posted on 08/03/2013 8:32:25 PM PDT
While the media will revel in this GOP fight, now is the time to have it. If not now, when? It has to happen. Actually, I will wait for Karl Rove to say that now is not the time, before being certain that now IS the time. Go Whacko Birds!
posted on 08/03/2013 8:37:18 PM PDT
(Be seeing you...)
” - - - they will get it back in spades. - - - “
posted on 08/03/2013 8:37:48 PM PDT
(Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
lose everytime they're listened to.
They wouldn't care if they DO lose.
If they can't be in power, they don't want US in power.
It's just that simple.It's WAR!
"Establishment Republicans" Want to Redefine the Term "Conservative"
"DO CONSERVATIVES WANT TO WIN IN 2012 OR NOT?"
CONSERVATIVES "ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS"
WANT TO WIN IN 2014 OR NOT?
Jack Kerwick wrote an article on May 24, 2011 titled The Tea Partier versus The Republican
and he expressed some important issues that I agree with.
Thus far, the field of GOP presidential contenders, actual and potential, isnt looking too terribly promising.
This, though, isnt meant to suggest that any of the candidates, all things being equal, lack what it takes to insure
that Barack Obama never sees the light of a second term; nor is it the case that I find none of the candidates appealing.
Rather, I simply mean that at this juncture, the party faithful is far from unanimously energized over any of them.
It is true that it was the rapidity and aggressiveness with which President Obama proceeded to impose his perilous designs upon the country
that proved to be the final spark to ignite the Tea Party movement.
But the chain of events that lead to its emergence began long before Obama was elected.
That is, it was actually the disenchantment with the Republican Party under our compassionate conservative president, George W. Bush,
which overcame legions of conservatives that was the initial inspiration that gave rise to the Tea Party.
It is this frustration with the GOPs betrayal of the values that it affirms that accounts for why the overwhelming majority
of those who associate with or otherwise sympathize with the Tea Party movement
refuse to explicitly or formally identify with the Republican Party.
And it is this frustration that informs the Tea Partiers threat to create a third party
in the event that the GOP continues business as usual.
If and when those conservatives and libertarians who compose the bulk of the Tea Party, decided that the Republican establishment
has yet to learn the lessons of 06 and 08, choose to follow through with their promise,
they will invariably be met by Republicans with two distinct but interrelated objections.
they will be told that they are utopian, purists foolishly holding out for an ideal candidate.
Second, because virtually all members of the Tea Party would have otherwise voted Republican if not for this new third party,
they will be castigated for essentially giving elections away to Democrats.
Both of these criticisms are, at best, misplaced; at worst, they are just disingenuous.
At any rate, they are easily answerable.
Lets begin with the argument against purism. To this line, two replies are in the coming.
It may be worth it, the Tea Partier can tell Republicans, for the GOP to lose some elections if it means that conservativesand the countrywill ultimately win.
No one, as far as I have ever been able to determine, refuses to vote for anyone who isnt an ideal candidate.
Ideal candidates, by definition, dont exist.
This, after all, is what makes them ideal.
This counter-objection alone suffices to expose the argument of the Anti-Purist as so much counterfeit.
But there is another consideration that militates decisively against it.
A Tea Partier who refrains from voting for a Republican candidate who shares few if any of his beliefs
can no more be accused of holding out for an ideal candidate
than can someone who refuses to marry a person with whom he has little to anything in common
be accused of holding out for an ideal spouse.
In other words, the object of the argument against purism is the most glaring of straw men:
I will not vote for a thoroughly flawed candidate is one thing;
I will only vote for a perfect candidate is something else entirely.
As for the second objection against the Tea Partiers rejection of those Republican candidates who eschew his values and convictions,
it can be dispensed with just as effortlessly as the first.
Every election seasonand at no time more so than this past seasonRepublicans pledge to reform Washington, trim down the federal government, and so forth.
Once, however, they get elected and they conduct themselves with none of the confidence and enthusiasm with which they expressed themselves on the campaign trail,
those who placed them in office are treated to one lecture after the other on the need for compromise and patience.
Well, when the Tea Partiers impatience with establishment Republican candidates intimates a Democratic victory,
he can use this same line of reasoning against his Republican critics.
My dislike for the Democratic Party is second to none, he can insist.
But in order to advance in the long run my conservative or Constitutionalist values, it may be necessary to compromise some in the short term.
as Glenn Beck once correctly noted in an interview with Katie Couric,
had John McCain been elected in 2008, it is not at all improbable that, in the final analysis,
the country would have been worse off than it is under a President Obama.
McCain would have furthered the countrys leftward drift,
but because this movement would have been slower,
and because McCain is a Republican, it is not likely that the apparent awakening that occurred under Obama would have occurred under McCain.
If he didnt know it before, the Tea Partier now knows that accepting short-term loss in exchange for long-term gain is the essence of compromise, the essence of politics.
Ironically, he can thank the Republican for impressing this so indelibly upon him.
I'm fresh out of "patience"
, and I'm not in the mood for "compromise"
"COMPROMISE" to me is a dirty word.
Let the RINO's compromise their values
, with the conservatives, for a change.
The "Establishment Republicans"
can go to hell!
posted on 08/03/2013 8:43:40 PM PDT
(It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
By contrast, in the (alleged) Democratic Party, such free speaking of differing views (or having a non-approved opinion) is not permitted, one suspects.
posted on 08/03/2013 8:45:32 PM PDT
(Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
RINO’s have been attacking and undermining conservatives forever
posted on 08/03/2013 8:55:49 PM PDT
The GOP has turned into a circular firing squad. We all hang together...or we’ll all hang seperately.
If these clowns can’t get it together and unite to defeat the left, we’re in for four or eight years of Benghazi Betty (Hillary).
posted on 08/03/2013 8:56:32 PM PDT
Idiots of last month -
I can’t wait to see who makes the list this month
posted on 08/03/2013 8:57:03 PM PDT
HEAR HEAR! Well done! They wouldn't care if they DO lose.
If they can't be in power, they don't want US in power.
It's just that simple.
GOPe = The Scorched Earth Vichy-Party.
posted on 08/03/2013 8:57:16 PM PDT
by USS Johnston
(Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be bought at the price of chains & slavery? - Patrick Henry)
Establishment Republicans bump for later....
posted on 08/03/2013 9:16:08 PM PDT
What a parade of .... I was going to say losers, but that’s not really fair. Dole and McCain bled for this country, Ford always seemed like a very decent man, as does Romney. They just are NOT what the Republican Party and the U.S.A. needs! God bless them for whatever good they have done, but their way of doing things is part of the problem. I take it back, McCain is a loser. The others are just nice guys who came in 2nd because they weren’t what we need. Good post!
posted on 08/03/2013 9:18:09 PM PDT
(Be seeing you...)
"If these clowns cant get it together and unite to defeat the left, were in for four or eight years of Benghazi Betty (Hillary)."
The statist RINO elites don't want to defeat the Left...they want to go along to get along. They're fat and happy in their DC condos, not having to face their constituents most of the year. As long as they're in control of the GOP, we might as well have Hilldebeast and the Obammunists in charge...at the crash and burn will come sooner.
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
posted on 08/03/2013 9:30:22 PM PDT
by wku man
(Amnesty? No Way, Jose (No Se Puede!) by 10 Pound Test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsTUQ8yOI2c)
I cannot imagine getting a true picture of news about the republican party from the AP. Am I wrong?
posted on 08/03/2013 10:25:44 PM PDT
They got the “attack” bit right, but they will portray it as “moderates” (leftist RINOs) against the “far right” (actual conservatives and fiscally-conservative libertarians).
posted on 08/03/2013 10:33:07 PM PDT
"Dole and McCain bled for this country"
I know, and I'm a retired veteran.
But that doesn't give them the right to go against what this country was founded upon, and that is FREEDOM.
McCain especially should know that
COMMUNISM doesn't work, since he fought against it and served time in a P.O.W. camp.
McCain is just another power hungry Communist pretending to fight for Freedom, when he is actually undermining it.
posted on 08/04/2013 2:03:01 AM PDT
(It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
There is a reason why Christe engaged in man-love on the beach with Barry after Hurricane Sandy, and turned down Rand Paul’s invitation for a beer. He is a petulant man who was really pissed off when Romney didn’t chose him for VP; and now is trying to suck up to the RINO’s in GOP to get the presidential nomination.
posted on 08/04/2013 2:58:14 AM PDT
(Primary Them All)
The Revolutionary War was fought and won by 1/3 of us who fought another 1/3 who were siding with the British while another 1/3 hid in their basements with two flags waiting to see which to come up waving. Patriots fighting people the GOPe is nothing new, but that doesn’t mean we can let up.
posted on 08/04/2013 4:35:55 AM PDT
(Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
The GOP has turned into a circular firing squad. We all hang together...or well all hang seperately. If these clowns cant get it together and unite to defeat the left, were in for four or eight years of Benghazi Betty (Hillary).
What you wrote pertains also to FR...and it's getting worse.
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