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States: Once Proud, Now Poor Supplicants
National Governors Conference ^

Posted on 08/04/2013 11:03:24 AM PDT by Jacquerie

The annual meeting of the National Governors Conference is underway in Milwaukee, WI. Scheduled meeting topics include employment for people with disabilities, health care changes, the National Guard, water infrastructure needs, comprehensive federal tax reform, education, homeland security, prison reform, cyber-security. Governors will also meet in private, off-the-record settings, where I presume the substantive, real discussions will take place.

As a sort of sister organization, the National Conference of State Legislatures will meet next week. Navigating the Affordable Care Act, helping military veterans find jobs, improving the election process and regulating drones are among the wide variety of topics state lawmakers will tackle during the National Conference of State Legislatures’ (NCSL) 39th annual Legislative Summit Aug. 12-15 in Atlanta.

At neither of the websites did I detect disgust with what the national government has recently done to the states. They are, without doubt, the political equivalent of abused wives and dogs, grateful for the morsels of liberty their masters allow them.

They have been told that they may not defend their borders. They may not, via their constitutions, define what history has known for millennia, that marriage = man + woman. They must accept the daily changing whims of Obama as expressed through his cabinet secretaries. They must accept wholesale shutdown of coal fired, electricity generating plants. They must accept close surveillance of their citizens and presumably of themselves. They must silently accept radical black-robed judges and commissars hostile to the 10th Amendment. The list goes on.

In short, they don’t publicly care that they have been reduced to poor supplicant status.

Mark Levin’s new book goes public next week. If we are to kick start reform from the bottom up, from the people and the states, we will have an incredible amount of work to do.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 17th; 17thamendment; articlev; constitution; statesrights
National Conference of State Legislatures.
1 posted on 08/04/2013 11:03:24 AM PDT by Jacquerie
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To: 1010RD; Repeal The 17th; lone star annie; boxlunch; OneWingedShark; central_va; Hostage; ...
Ping!

Both the Governor and State Legislature organizations take pride in their outreach and contacts within the national government.

Whoopdidoo.

The Framers gave them real means to influence events and protect our rights: the Senate of the United States.

2 posted on 08/04/2013 11:05:27 AM PDT by Jacquerie (To restore the 10th Amendment, repeal the 17th.)
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To: Jacquerie

thanks!


3 posted on 08/04/2013 11:07:36 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Jacquerie

First step, repeal the 17th Amendment. 2nd step, recall all the Senate bastards and replace them via the state legislatures. 3rd step, Impeach and remove Zero. This can be done in a matter of months.


4 posted on 08/04/2013 11:16:05 AM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: DownInFlames

YES!!!


5 posted on 08/04/2013 11:22:45 AM PDT by Jacquerie (To restore the 10th Amendment, repeal the 17th.)
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To: Jacquerie

the states need to tell the feds to go to hell where the feds belong


6 posted on 08/04/2013 11:23:09 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Jacquerie

all of those topics.... how to get $$$ from the feds?


7 posted on 08/04/2013 11:28:02 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: DownInFlames

Those topics are strangely not on the agenda.


8 posted on 08/04/2013 11:39:28 AM PDT by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us about 0bama's America)
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To: DownInFlames

GMTA!!!

Since the states were complicit in their demise by ratifying the 17th Amendment, getting them to rise to the occasion for this effort is likely questionable.


9 posted on 08/04/2013 11:42:44 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: yldstrk
I wrote my state rep about this, and an Article V convention to make it happen. That was early June. No response. Speaking the language of our Framers is as understandable to many people as Mandarin Chinese.

Oh well, keep plugging!

10 posted on 08/04/2013 11:49:48 AM PDT by Jacquerie (To restore the 10th Amendment, repeal the 17th.)
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To: GeronL

Yeah, pretty much.


11 posted on 08/04/2013 11:50:40 AM PDT by Jacquerie (To restore the 10th Amendment, repeal the 17th.)
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To: T-Bird45
No doubt. Most people think democracy is just swell, and the more of it the better. How could anyone be against the popular election of congressmen, senators, presidents?
12 posted on 08/04/2013 11:55:48 AM PDT by Jacquerie (To restore the 10th Amendment, repeal the 17th.)
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To: Jacquerie; T-Bird45

Well then, democracy being swell and all, let’s cut back the terms of all of them to two years with a limit of four terms.

T-Bird45 - what does GMTA mean?


13 posted on 08/04/2013 2:08:57 PM PDT by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us about 0bama's America)
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To: shove_it

GMTA = Great Minds Think Alike

Good Internet resource for such things:

www.urbandictionary.com


14 posted on 08/04/2013 2:13:23 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: shove_it
Term limits are one of Mark Levin's liberty amendments. Twelve years TOTAL in congress. Oh, and twelve for judges too.
15 posted on 08/04/2013 2:57:30 PM PDT by Jacquerie (To restore the 10th Amendment, repeal the 17th.)
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To: DownInFlames
First step, repeal the 17th Amendment. 2nd step, recall all the Senate bastards and replace them via the state legislatures. 3rd step, Impeach and remove Zero. This can be done in a matter of months.

I know a method that would strike the FedGov in a matter of Days; link here.
(The only problem is it requires a governor with some balls; although I believe that Art 4 Sec 4 can be invoked via state legislatures as well.)

16 posted on 08/04/2013 4:02:37 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: All
Within the Ntl Governor's Conference and The Ntl Confrence of State Legislatures, there's no disgust with what the Obama government has done to states. They are, without doubt, the political equivalent of abused wives and whipped dogs, grateful for the morsels of liberty their federal masters allow them. States have been told that they may not defend their borders. They may not, via their constitutions, define what history has known for millennia, that marriage = man + woman. They must accept the daily changing whims of Obama as expressed through his appointees in the cabinet and in the behomoth federal apparat he's created. States have the constitutional power to act----but they don't seem to care that they have been reduced to supplicant status.

WHAT AMERICANS USE TO KNOW ABOUT THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE

The first several generations of Americans understood that the Declaration of Independence was the ultimate states’ rights document. The citizens of the states would delegate certain powers to a central government in their Constitution, and these powers (mostly for national defense and foreign policy purposes) would hopefully be exercised for the benefit of the citizens of the "free and independent" states, as they are called in the Declaration.

The understanding was that if American citizens were in fact to be the masters rather than the servants of government, they themselves would have to police the national government that was created by them for their mutual benefit. If the day ever came that the national government became the sole arbiter of the limits of its own powers, then Americans would live under a tyranny as bad or worse than the one the colonists fought a revolution against.

As the above quotation denotes, the ultimate natural law principle behind this thinking was Jefferson’s famous dictum in the Declaration of Independence that governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed, and that whenever that consent is withdrawn the people of the free and independent states, as sovereigns, have a duty to abolish that government and replace it with a new one if they wish.

This was the fundamental understanding of the meaning of the Declaration of Independence – that it was a Declaration of Secession from the British empire – of the first several generations of Americans. As the 1, 107-page book, Northern Editorials on Secession shows, this view was held just as widely in the Northern states as in the Southern states in 1860- 1861. Among the lone dissenters was Abe Lincoln, a corporate lawyer/lobbyist/politician with less than a year of formal education who probably never even read The Federalist Papers.

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DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE PREAMBLE “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights...”

What came after the Declaration of Independence was the "bill of particulars" against the colonial ruler--King George III ---that justified the declaration and subsequent colonial rebellion.

“He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance,” reads one of Jefferson’s indictments against the king.

(Amply describes the Obama juggernaut against Americans.)

17 posted on 08/05/2013 3:01:54 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Jacquerie

I just preordered Levin’s new book. You must have the juice to get this G2 in advance.


18 posted on 08/05/2013 9:02:21 AM PDT by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us about 0bama's America)
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To: T-Bird45

Got it. Thanks for the tip.


19 posted on 08/05/2013 9:03:09 AM PDT by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us about 0bama's America)
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To: shove_it

Roger that, I’ve done the same.

My state rep and senator will each get a softcopy when available.


20 posted on 08/05/2013 9:29:55 AM PDT by Jacquerie (To restore the 10th Amendment, repeal the 17th.)
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