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Light-Rail to Nowhere: Honolulu, Hawaii's Train Boondoggle
Reason ^ | August 1, 2013 | Sharif Matar

Posted on 08/05/2013 6:52:55 AM PDT by cutty

there's no reason to believe the Honolulu's rail project will do anything to improve traffic congestion. In fact, it's likely to divert resources from more-affordable solutions.

"The one thing about these projects [is that] they are very inviting politically," says former Hawaii Gov. Ben Cayetano. Along with Cliff Slater of Honolulutraffic.com and University of Hawaii's Roth, Cayetano has filed a federal lawsuit against the rail project that's held up construction. They claim the city misled the public about the total cost of the project and didn't deliver fully on a required review of alternative solutions to a rail line.

Panos Prevedouros, one of the state's leading transportation experts, says the rail plan that the feds approved will siphon off state funding for the area's bus system.

(Excerpt) Read more at reason.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: boondoggle; corruption; hawaii; hawaiis; highspeedrail; highspeedtrains; honolulu; light; lightrail; lightrailtonowhere; nowhere; rail; taxes; train

1 posted on 08/05/2013 6:52:56 AM PDT by cutty
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To: cutty

People like their Choo Choos.

I’m sitting on a train subsidized by the good taxpayers at $20,000.00 per year, just for me.

Idiots.


2 posted on 08/05/2013 6:55:48 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Where's my pressure cooker backpack wmd ricin laced al qaeda terrorist BASSELOPE?)
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To: cutty

Honolulu is built uphill from the sea, with Pearl Harbor jutting in, and Wakiki off to the side. I can’t imagine a train being of any use whatsoever.

Just a way to Liki-Liki taxpayers money away.

Best way to get around Honolulu is on a motorcycle.


3 posted on 08/05/2013 6:56:11 AM PDT by left that other site (You Shall Know the Truth, and the Truth Shall Set You Free...John 8:32)
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To: cutty

Does it go under-water?


4 posted on 08/05/2013 6:56:30 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: cutty

Does it go under-water?


5 posted on 08/05/2013 6:56:32 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

"Got to do with where choo-choo go."

6 posted on 08/05/2013 6:57:19 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: cutty

Willie Green sez it’s GOOD!


7 posted on 08/05/2013 6:59:54 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: dfwgator

Goes along with Cali’s high speed train in the desert. Guess good cheap transportation for illegals to get to the picking fields


8 posted on 08/05/2013 7:01:07 AM PDT by Kozy (Calling Al Gore)
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To: Uncle Miltie

A transit agency that expands its bus fleet gets the support of the transit operators union. But an agency that builds a rail line gets the support of construction companies, construction unions, banks and bond dealers, railcar manufacturers, electric power companies (if the railcars are electric powered), downtown property owners, and other real estate interests.

Rail may be a negative-sum game for the region as a whole, but those concentrated interests stand to gain a lot at a relatively small expense to everyone else.

http://pjmedia.com/eddriscoll/2006/01/11/the-desire-named-streetcar-revisited/


9 posted on 08/05/2013 7:01:11 AM PDT by cutty
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To: Paladin2; Willie Green

ping


10 posted on 08/05/2013 7:14:47 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: cutty
Honolulu did have a commercially successful railroad for over fifty years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oahu_Railway_and_Land_Company

11 posted on 08/05/2013 7:27:46 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: cutty

Certainly, one of the most corrupt political arenas in the nation. Economically a wasteland as well. Culturally & societally as well - if that’s what you long for, you can have it.

Nice weather, but after four years I missed having seasons. I also missed the ability to drive more than thirty miles in any direction.

Vacation, yes. Place to live? Da kine, bro, da kine.


12 posted on 08/05/2013 7:53:36 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: cutty

Look at the light rail system in Minneapolis. It is great as long as you are going from the Mall of America to downtown for a Twins or Vikings game, but pretty much worthless for much else. Many people who work in downtown Minneapolis use the park and ride bus system which serves all the outlying suburbs and costs a fraction of what even a mile of light rail costs.


13 posted on 08/05/2013 7:58:08 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: cutty
Light rail and mass transit make perfect sense and work perfectly for their real goal - CONTROLLING THE MOVEMENT OF POPULATIONS !

At the first whiff of revolt - CLICK - and nobody goes anywhere.

14 posted on 08/05/2013 8:17:32 AM PDT by SENTINEL (Kneel down to God. Stand up to tyrants. STICK TO YOUR GUNS !)
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To: cutty

Well, now. They conned us out of an Interstate highway network. I’ve never understood how it can be interstate, given the geographical reality. sd


15 posted on 08/05/2013 8:55:38 AM PDT by shotdog (I love my country. It's our government I'm afraid of.)
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To: Menehune56

Yes! And the truly sad thing is that the tracks are still there, running along the ocean, mind you, traveling from one end of the state to the other! They should reinstate that one, but it doesn’t go along with their plan to place everyone in rail accessible boxes (apartment sprawls), living “Jetson”-like lives, working, shopping, and playing all together (kind of like the urban life of Japan, I guess). It’s truly horrendous and with the payola to the politicians it’s a done deal, no matter how much sense it doesn’t make!!


16 posted on 08/05/2013 10:07:24 AM PDT by hulagirl (Mother Theresa was right)
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