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Why Did Bureaucrats Kill Giggles the Baby Deer? Because They Can
Townhall.com ^ | August 5, 2013 | Daniel J. Mitchell

Posted on 08/05/2013 8:44:15 AM PDT by Kaslin

The bad news is that governments do a lot of things they shouldn’t do. The good news is that I never run out of material.

I’ve even created some sub-categories, such as my U.S. vs U.K. government stupidity contest and my great-moments-in-local-government series.

But I never thought I would have a special category about bureaucrats vs. Bambi.

1. Bureaucrats in Virginia filed three misdemeanor charges against a man for the horrible crime of rescuing a deer that was hit by a car.

2. Bureaucrats in Maryland fined two men $90 each for not having life jackets when they had the gall to rescue a deer that fell through some ice.

3. Bureaucrats in Indiana are threatening prison time for a family that rescued a baby deer from coyotes.

The paper pushers of the world seem to harbor a special grudge against these harmless ruminants, since we now have another story about a baby deer. But this time, Bambi was the victim, not the family.

Here are some of the unbelievable details from a local news report.

Two weeks ago, Schulze was working in the barn at the Society of St. Francis on the Kenosha-Illinois border when a swarm of squad cars arrived and officers unloaded with a search warrant. “(There were) nine DNR agents and four deputy sheriffs, and they were all armed to the teeth,” Schulze said. The focus of their search was a baby fawn brought there by an Illinois family worried she had been abandoned by her mother.

My first reaction when reading this was “what the @#$*?” Is he public sector really so bloated that 13 bureaucrats have nothing better to do than to serve a search warrant for a baby deer?

And why on earth were they heavily armed? Were they expecting Osama Bin Bambi?

But don’t answer yet, because it gets more absurd.

The Department of Natural Resources began investigating after two anonymous calls reporting a baby deer at the no-kill shelter. The warden drafted an affidavit for the search warrant, complete with aerial photos in which he described getting himself into a position where he was able to see the fawn going in and out of the barn.

I’m not sure what part of this excerpt gets me more upset, the fact that some snitch informed on the shelter for having a baby deer, or the fact that the government is so wasteful that bureaucrats went through the cost of arranging aerial surveillance!

Dangerous criminal executed

As a taxpayer, I get agitated about the waste of money. As a decent human being, this next part bothers me even more.

“I was thinking in my mind they were going to take the deer and take it to a wildlife shelter, and here they come carrying the baby deer over their shoulder. She was in a body bag,” Schulze said. “I said, ‘Why did you do that?’ He said, ‘That’s our policy,’ and I said, ‘That’s one hell of a policy.’”

The local cops justified the overkill approach by equating an animal shelter with a crack house.

“Could you have made a phone call before showing up, I mean, that’s a lot of resources,” WISN 12 News investigative reporter Colleen Henry asked. “If a sheriff’s department is going in to do a search warrant on a drug bust, they don’t call them and ask them to voluntarily surrender their marijuana or whatever drug that they have before they show up,” Niemeyer said,

Horrified citizens are complaining and fighting back, though I’m not holding my breath that justice will be served.

Schultz said she plans to sue the DNR for removing Giggles without even a court hearing. She also questioned what such an operation costs taxpayers. “They went way over the top for a little tiny baby deer,” Schultz said,

Remember, though, that this type of government thuggery is hardly unusual.

The Food and Drug Administration raided a dairy for the terrible crime of selling unpasteurized milk to people who prefer unpasteurized milk.

New York City imposed a $30,000 fine on a small shop because it sold a toy gun.

The pinheads at the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission went after Hooters for not having any male waiters in hot pants and tight t-shirts.

An unlucky guy wound up in legal hot water for releasing some heart-shaped balloons to impress his sweetheart.

Yup, our tax dollars at work. And Obama thinks government is too small and needs more of our money so it can do even more things.




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1 posted on 08/05/2013 8:44:15 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Every bastard in this chain of governmental power abuse from the hjead of the Department of Natural Resources down to the neanderthals who carried this out, need to be fired, and banned from ANY further public employment.

They are public safety menaces.


2 posted on 08/05/2013 8:48:59 AM PDT by ZULU ((See: http://gatesofvienna.net/) Obama, do you hear me?)
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To: Kaslin

Our forefathers would be shooting by now.


3 posted on 08/05/2013 8:48:59 AM PDT by MeganC (A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll never need one again.)
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To: Kaslin

It probably had something to do with Chronic Wasting Disease, in which case the animal needed to be put down. But, a couple of DNR dudes in a pickup truck could have gotten the job done. Very bad form.


4 posted on 08/05/2013 8:50:37 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: MeganC

It’s daily becoming VERY clear that the rule of law has disintegrated in this country. And yes, I mean is HAS, as in it’s done. The only thing holding us together is a very tenuous social contract for a modicum of respect. It’s only a matter of time before the feral mobs of the inner city realize that the police will turn a blind eye to save their own hides and we’ve got internal strife unlike anything seen since the Civil War.

Make no mistake folks, the police and the government are no longer on our side. America, as we knew it, is done. Rule of law, courts, police, it’s all smoke and mirrors.


5 posted on 08/05/2013 8:51:02 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Kaslin

If I happen find a dead deer along the road I would be so tempted to find the nearest beer-o-crap’s office and throw the thing through their window...

This idea of punishing human kindness through stuipid not well thought out regulations and inhuman laws is plain anti-human.

They want to prevent humans raising wildlife and that is fine, maybe instead of killing these animals and punishing kindness maybe they should have a policy of saying, yes you can rescue wildlife, just let us know about and let us help instead of punishing people for doing the right thing...

So we are punishing people for doing good things and then we are letting trespassing law breakers off scott free, it is not only the rule of law that has gone bonkers, but the spirit of the laws has been so badly trampled upon that we have been turned against nature’s law as described in our founding...


6 posted on 08/05/2013 8:51:23 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Kaslin
My brother-in-law and I watched a bald eagle fly down a road and shed a feather. We were at first temped to retrieve the feather, but then I remembered that so much as possessing an eagle feather is a federal crime carrying a fine of up to $25,000. Imagine being a criminal for picking up a feather in the woods. Only enrolled members of specific Native American tribes are allowed to have these feathers.
7 posted on 08/05/2013 8:53:58 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: rarestia

All true.


8 posted on 08/05/2013 8:54:34 AM PDT by MeganC (A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll never need one again.)
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To: Kaslin

Land of the free...

Will we ever again be able to say those words again without sarcasm?


9 posted on 08/05/2013 8:55:09 AM PDT by ottbmare (the OTTB mare)
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To: Kaslin

The Food and Drug Administration raided a dairy for the terrible crime of selling unpasteurized milk to people who prefer unpasteurized milk.

I think someone should protest this crap by going to a nearest state border and getting a small group of people and “selling” the bottle of “raw” milk across the border multiple times, of course everyone will be wearing masks and such to hide their identity, but post the thing up to you tube with an anonymous account.

People need to see how stuipid these crazy regulations are first hand and we should be using social media to do so....

Soon we will probably start seeing intentional civil disobedience in form of protest by breaking stuipid laws and dumb regulations.

Because that step is the next step after peaceful tea party protests are seen as ineffectual ....


10 posted on 08/05/2013 8:57:09 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: MeganC

Our forefathers would be shooting by now.

As well as tar and feathering and tying up these buffons to the nearest lightpoles in the city squares and hanging big signs around their necks mocking them....


11 posted on 08/05/2013 8:59:17 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Kaslin
The Food and Drug Administration raided a dairy for the terrible crime of selling unpasteurized milk to people who prefer unpasteurized milk.

That has happened many times. They target the Amish for this horrible terrorist act.

12 posted on 08/05/2013 9:00:37 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: ottbmare

Land of the free...

Will we ever again be able to say those words again without sarcasm?

I always add “Home of the Slave” after that line...

“Land of the Freebie... Home of the Slave”

Because the freebee has enslaved us all, the person receiveing the freebie is a slave to the state in terms of who they vote for “dems”.

The ones paying for the freebie is a slave because they slavishly vote for the “Repubes” to change that but they never recieve no relief from their servitude of taxes.

We are right where they want us... Enslaved at the wallet....

They are right where they want them as well.... Enslaved at the mind....

“Land of the Freebie, Home of the Slave”


13 posted on 08/05/2013 9:05:14 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: bamahead

Ping


14 posted on 08/05/2013 9:06:53 AM PDT by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: SeeSharp

They target anyone. Damned uppity farmers—thinking they can sell their own produce as a private enterprise. Treasonous capitalist pigs!

The 14th Amendment IS the Constitution! Bow before the All-Powerful Commerce Clause, you bitter, clinging scum!


15 posted on 08/05/2013 9:15:38 AM PDT by antidisestablishment (Mahound delenda est)
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To: Kaslin

Wisconsin conservative WTMJ 50K watt am talk show host 8:30-noon weekdays Charlie Sukes had a run in with the operator of the wild life center in Kenosha some years back. It seems he reports he was being sued by her where she gave written instructons to someone who was to testify to lie. She wound up paying his legal bills.

While I feel having an army barge in to kill Bambi is really excessive there’s seems to be more to this tale than white lies.

In fact two years earlier Governor Walker pardoned another white tailed Bambi under similar circumstances.


16 posted on 08/05/2013 9:22:18 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: antidisestablishment
The 14th Amendment IS the Constitution! Bow before the All-Powerful Commerce Clause, you bitter, clinging scum!

Which is why we will never get spending/debt-incurance under control w/o a Constitutional Amendment.

Amendment 14, Section 4.
The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

17 posted on 08/05/2013 9:23:55 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Kaslin

We had to kill the deer to save it.


18 posted on 08/05/2013 9:25:16 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: rdcbn

We may find the same mentality applied to us at some point in the near future.


19 posted on 08/05/2013 9:26:35 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: rarestia
"The only thing holding us together is a very tenuous social contract for a modicum of respect."

Not too mention that far too many on our side are in denial that things are as bad as they really are. I've talked with too many people who think there's still a resolution to be found by "working within the system." If both parties have turned their backs on the the Constitution and the Rule of Law, how the h*ll is working within the system going to do any good, I ask? They respond with some variation on "I just don't think it's as bad as you say," and a quick change of subject.

Claire Wolfe's alarm clock is ringing, but too many folks on our side refuse to smell the coffee.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

20 posted on 08/05/2013 9:30:48 AM PDT by wku man (Amnesty? No Way, Jose (No Se Puede!) by 10 Pound Test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsTUQ8yOI2c)
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To: centurion316

It would be the first case of a fawn having diagnosable CWD ever. It was done to prove that the state has total power.

Its not about the law being justified or even the spirt of the law. It is about proving that the law itself, and the enforcers of it, are all powerful.

For example:
1. Pass a law to prevent drinking from open ponds, justified as a public health concern.
2. Shoot man dying of thirst, for attempting to drink from open pond.

Clearly public health is not the primary concern.


21 posted on 08/05/2013 9:33:21 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Kaslin

There are some people who join law enforcement just to kill legally whether it’s people, their pets or in this case wildlife.


22 posted on 08/05/2013 9:39:36 AM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: ZULU
Every bastard in this chain of governmental power abuse from the hjead of the Department of Natural Resources down to the neanderthals who carried this out, need to be fired,

They will learn nothing from that experience. Rather, tar and feather them, burn their homes to the ground and drive them and their families into the wilderness. Let them experience the full measure of suffering that they have inflicted on others.

Can you hear me now?

23 posted on 08/05/2013 9:40:08 AM PDT by Noumenon (What would Michael Collins do?)
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To: rarestia
Make no mistake folks, the police and the government are no longer on our side. America, as we knew it, is done. Rule of law, courts, police, it’s all smoke and mirrors.

You have the right of it. Plan and act accordingly. We are at war.

24 posted on 08/05/2013 9:41:59 AM PDT by Noumenon (What would Michael Collins do?)
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To: wku man

I daresay it’s worse than anything we are discuss. The fish rots from the head. The fact is that the Federal government is a worthless shell organization. States are still trying to “operate within the system,” but they are frequently left holding a smelly bag of crap.

Meanwhile, state and local enforcement officials are going to eventually get word that the rot is widespread. Those who care about themselves, their families, etc. will abandon ship and save their own hides. Those who don’t will stay on the force and become part of the goon squad.

Every political novel ever written has presaged this, and we are literally sitting in the middle of it. History is the most brutal of teachers, but almost no one is paying any attention. This is bad news.


25 posted on 08/05/2013 9:42:05 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Kaslin

Well at least no pet dogs were killed this time. /s


26 posted on 08/05/2013 9:43:09 AM PDT by mc5cents (Pray for America)
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To: centurion316

I’ve no doubt but had they such an excuse, they would have given it.


27 posted on 08/05/2013 9:46:05 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Kaslin
In most states regulated/protected wildlife belongs to the state and is held in public trust.

Also in most states it is illegal to possess live deer without special permits.

Most states will kill any live deer held captive by the public unless they have the special permits and they have documented proof of where the animal came from.

The reason is things like CWD that could wipe out an entire deer population if an infected animal was released into the wild.

The only test for CWD requires killing the animal.

The DNR can't take the risk and trust that someone was just stupid and thought the fawn was abandoned.

The DNR did the only sane thing in killing the fawn.

Leave the fawns alone! They aren't abandoned. The mother only comes back to feed them a couple times a day, the rest of the time they are alone.

28 posted on 08/05/2013 9:49:14 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: centurion316

BINGO!


29 posted on 08/05/2013 9:50:05 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: centurion316

Yeah, I was gonna say, they MAY have had a valid reason. Wisconsin seems to be ground zero with a lot of deer borne diseases.

I agree with you, one or two guys with a pickup and a dart gun would have been sufficient.

But hey, RATZ* with all that fed gov surplus military stuff just laying around, begging for a chance to be used, who could resist?

*(bureauKaRATZ)


30 posted on 08/05/2013 9:56:09 AM PDT by ConradofMontferrat ( According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: rarestia
Recall the words of Adm. James Bond Stockdale, on his 7+ years checked-in at the Hanoi Hilton:

"This is a very important lesson. You must never confuse faith that you will prevail in the end—which you can never afford to lose—with the discipline to confront the most brutal facts of your current reality, whatever they might be."

31 posted on 08/05/2013 10:00:08 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Kaslin

>>The Department of Natural Resources began investigating after two anonymous calls reporting a baby deer at the no-kill shelter. <<

Never a shortage of snitches and busy-bodies in this Brave New World of ours!


32 posted on 08/05/2013 10:00:16 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("This ain't no party, this ain't no disco, this ain't no foolin' around.")
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To: Kaslin

The land of the free? No, not any more.


33 posted on 08/05/2013 10:12:57 AM PDT by jch10 (The greatest threat to America is the Democrats.)
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To: Noumenon

I agree. This should be immediate. We can’t allow these acts to continue.


34 posted on 08/05/2013 10:17:16 AM PDT by jch10 (The greatest threat to America is the Democrats.)
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To: Beagle8U

Where was the warrant to search the property? If illegal deer was found, seizure and removal would be right. They didn’t have to kill the fawn right there. Removal and dispersal later would make more sense.

And, why the SWAT tactics? What’s wrong with these people?


35 posted on 08/05/2013 10:22:53 AM PDT by jch10 (The greatest threat to America is the Democrats.)
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To: DuncanWaring

So what he was intimating is that while we should have faith that we’ll persevere, never be afraid to confront the facts surrounding your situation and prepare to die trying to win.


36 posted on 08/05/2013 10:28:03 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters

We must always have stories like this in mind when interacting with governmental “authorities” in any capacity.


37 posted on 08/05/2013 10:31:35 AM PDT by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: jch10

“The warden drafted an , complete with aerial photos in which he described getting himself into a position where he was able to see the fawn going in and out of the barn.”

“affidavit for the search warrant”

You must have missed that part?

Perhaps killing the fawn on the property was a good reminder for the morons of the results of their stupid actions.

Animal-rights nutballs cause more harm to wildlife than they help.


38 posted on 08/05/2013 10:32:58 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Kaslin

I cried when the bureaucrat shot Giggles.

Or was it Bambi’s mother?


39 posted on 08/05/2013 10:41:15 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: centurion316

I thought Chronic Wasting Disease was something only congress was susceptible to.


40 posted on 08/05/2013 11:22:07 AM PDT by beelzepug (if any alphabets are watchin', I'll be coming home right after the meetin')
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To: Kaslin

Thank goodness most people could never participate in the police state because they couldn’t help asking, “Why the hell are we doing this?” But I’ve met a lot of zombies who would never ask that question. Their minds are programmed to accept without question what the state tells them. It is their religion.


41 posted on 08/05/2013 12:04:01 PM PDT by pallis
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To: Kaslin

“Did you really think we want those laws observed?” said Dr. Ferris. “We want them to be broken. You’d better get it straight that it’s not a bunch of boy scouts you’re up against... We’re after power and we mean it... There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that’s the system, Mr. Reardon, that’s the game, and once you understand it, you’ll be much easier to deal with.”

- Ayn Rand, 1957 -

[Transcribed by Hoodat]


42 posted on 08/05/2013 12:06:03 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Kaslin

MORE Giggles!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3051143/posts


43 posted on 08/05/2013 12:15:08 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: beelzepug

No, you confused Congress with the Republican Party.


44 posted on 08/05/2013 12:24:50 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: The Great RJ

“possessing an eagle feather is a federal crime carrying a fine of up to $25,000. Imagine being a criminal for picking up a feather in the woods. Only enrolled members of specific Native American tribes are allowed to have these feathers.”

As recall hillary got a pass.


45 posted on 08/05/2013 12:25:20 PM PDT by duffee (NO poll tax, NO tax on firearms, ammunition or gun safes. NO gun free zones.)
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To: Beagle8U

Thanks. I did miss that.


46 posted on 08/05/2013 5:21:08 PM PDT by jch10 (The greatest threat to America is the Democrats.)
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To: duffee; The Great RJ
As recall hillary got a pass.


I'd like to thank the United States Government for protecting me and my kind.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
You see, 40 years ago, my odds of making it out of the egg, alive, were very poor; about 80% of us died. 
 (http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=rachel-carson-silent-spring-1972-ddt-ban-birds-thrive)
 
 
But a lady discovered our plight and wrote a book that addressed our problem,
and, in 1972, a law was ammended protecting us even further. (http://www.fws.gov/midwest/eagle/protect/laws.html)
 
 
 
 
 
 
What I find strange is that the same government passed a law the very next year that allowed for killing
of unborn, and apparently unwanted, humans.  Little ones still nestled safely in their Mother's womb.
Around 25% of them are dying before birth - on average nearly 3,300 - every day of the year.
 
 
I hear that by now, somewhere around 55 MILLION of them have perished.
Wouldn't that kind of mess up the humans plans for growth, and welfare, and
retirement?
 
 
 
 
 
Strange birds; these Homo Sapiens.  Perhaps they'll come to their senses
before they are ALL dead!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

47 posted on 08/05/2013 7:38:04 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kaslin

We’re from the government, and we’re here to kill the baby deer.

Dear Lord, please give us strength.


48 posted on 08/05/2013 7:46:15 PM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: The Great RJ
My brother-in-law and I watched a bald eagle fly down a road and shed a feather. We were at first temped to retrieve the feather, but then I remembered that so much as possessing an eagle feather is a federal crime carrying a fine of up to $25,000. Imagine being a criminal for picking up a feather in the woods. Only enrolled members of specific Native American tribes are allowed to have these feathers.

I often say, "I'm Native American, I was born here." These laws are rediculous.
49 posted on 08/05/2013 8:03:18 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (I miss you Whitey! (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012). Take care, pretty girl!)
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50 posted on 08/06/2013 10:18:19 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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