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Posted on 08/05/2013 8:52:23 AM PDT by SeekAndFindEdited on 08/05/2013 8:52:50 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
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Indeed. You have no evidence.
You cite a 2002 speech as cause for the 2008 crash.
You ignore dems taking over congress in 2007. Mocking me as if frank persuaded bush to agree to the lack of proper limits. No. The dems took control of congress and the GSEs. Congress controls the GSEs. President can only recommend. Which bush did 17 times.
You ignore direct evidence where dems admit they caused the crisis. Frank quit congress over this.
You are not sick of libs. You are their great defender.
It is like blaming Coolidge for the depression—which dems do and faux conservatives play along with. The dems are at war with capital and they have never flinched on that. You play along with republican support of markets as causing collapse. It’s not true. Capitalism doesn’t cause crashes.
You have to parenthetically insert false content to the 2002 to make a pretense of your argument.
Dems caused the housing crisis and you’re defending their actions sickoflibs.
A few hours after I replied to this it dawned on me that budget bills, spending and taxes only, only require only the Senate majority votes not the 60 as long as they include no regulations. So to block the CR without his amendment he needs to round up 51 Senators, same # as to pass the CR with his amendment.(and Biden can vote on Dems side)
So he would need to round up every-single GOP Senator including McCain and Graham and a few Dem Senators to kill the CR (path to eventual shutdown) . But I bet Cruz is not even counting votes. I bet he has zero expectations that his amendment becomes law.
More-so is Reid even going to put that amendment up for a vote?
Thank you for this post. Message management means everything and Ted Cruz is nobody’s fool.
” I do support Ws path to citizenship policies. I dont think that is mutually exclusive with enforcement and clear identification of who is entering the country.”
I wish you had just come out at the beginning of this thread, and told us what you are. Now I wasted Sickoflib’s time . Don’t waste our time again.
” I recall the last time this came up just a few months ago a Bush-bot claimed that by 2006 or 2007 GWB had changed his mind 180 degrees on handing out those home loans to anyone who applied, so that made it OK.
Well by 2006 it was too late and 2007 it was WAY too late.”
I’ll speak freely as I see fit.
You should see if you can summon some refutation skills and stop trying to get others to do your bidding.
If you have an argument, make it. Otherwise, don’t feel the need to express the rules as to when I may speak or write on this fine forum.
Disagreement won’t hurt your mind as much as you fear.
Ha-Ha, that’s OK I find it entertaining .
he supports GWB amnesty but not Rubios??
You see him citing 4.7 % unemployment in 2007??
The stock market first started to show the effects of subprime forclosures in Sept 2007 and then unwound down through 2009 inspite of TARP bailout.
He picks the low peak, ~ 7 years into GWB presidency to avoid GWBs eighth year which was his last year when the chickens came home to Roost.
Is that Bush-bot Koolaid or what?
Sounds just like those libs on MSNBC defending Obama.
” He picks the low peak, ~ 7 years into GWB presidency to avoid GWBs eighth year which was his last year when the chickens came home to Roost.
Is that Bush-bot Koolaid or what?”
Just total dishonesty.
Maybe it's really Bush's *brain*...
I agree that a gov’t shutdown would be bad for the GOP.
The best bet, let Obamacare move forward and let the middle class get their 20% increases. In order to repeal and replace the people need to really be pissed off and demand it.
Then the GOP walks in and solves it and wins back the senate and WH.
” Watch out!! You’ll likely be called a faux conservative for calling out the hypocrisy!”
Yeah....only “faux conservatives” are against destroying the united states.....gotta remember that LOL!
SJB pinged me because he knows I love tormenting the Bush-bots by reminding them of his real record, not their imaginary one. Many of them fled here in 2011 and many others still here dont mention GWB anymore short a ‘miss Bush yet’ thread they cant resist.
Bush's hands were all over the (his term) housing bubble and he could have stopped it in time ~ mid 2004 but the actions required would not have been popular. By late 2005 house prices had risen too- high too-fast to result in anything but disaster.
” Bush’s hands were all over the (his term) housing bubble and he could have stopped it in time ~ mid 2004 but the actions required would not have been popular. By late 2005 house prices had risen too- high too-fast to result in anything but disaster. “
It would not have been popular, to say the least, but it would have stopped the madness. Bush preferred to wring every ounce of political capital he could out of this. He ran from the problem, and then tried like hell to capitalize on it......especially with hispanics. Made me sick.
If Bush had given a TARP speech in 2004 instead of 2008 calling for Regulations rather than the later bailout there would have been some unhappy investors and home owners and it would have been harder to be re-elected, but the damage would have been a small fraction of what it resulting in by letting the debt and house buying fever to continue.
A small panic from the speech would have stopped it, and many a few regulations would have been passed.
Getting rid of the down payment requirement was stupid.