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Congress Exempt from Obamacare in Last-Minute Deal
CBN News ^ | 5 Aug 13 | CBN

Posted on 08/05/2013 11:26:07 AM PDT by xzins

Senators, representatives, and their top aides will be able to stay under the current subsidized health care system.

That means they will continue to get a taxpayer-funded contribution to help pay for their health care premiums.

A last-minute deal worked out before Congress went on their five-week summer vacation gets lawmakers out of the original language of Obamacare, which said members and their aides had to use its health care plans.

Republicans like Sen. David Vitter of Louisiana slammed the move, calling it a "behind-closed-doors deal, announced right after Congress is safely away from the crime scene."

"This is exactly why America rightly hates Washington," Vitter charged. "Obamacare's a train wreck, even for Congress. So it gets fixed -- for Congress only. What the flip about fixing it for America?"


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1 posted on 08/05/2013 11:26:07 AM PDT by xzins
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This says that Congress believes ObamaCare is broke. (Not exactly a news flash)

But, it also says that the House had to go along with this, meaning it had to proceed under the Hastert rule....a majority of REPUBLICANS had to support it at some point earlier in the process.


2 posted on 08/05/2013 11:27:31 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

Wow, they don’t even pretend any more, do they?


3 posted on 08/05/2013 11:30:50 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: xzins

Where’s the vote ... fire every one that voted for this.


4 posted on 08/05/2013 11:30:54 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: xzins
"A last-minute deal" Just like they passed the `Affordable Care' act, on Christmas eve. angry mob photo: Angry Mob AngryMob.jpg
5 posted on 08/05/2013 11:35:53 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: xzins

The ruling elite shows its scorn for normal people.

They extract money from the working, productive people for their exorbitant lifestyle.

They make laws for normal people, and not for themselves.

Will the brain-dead public notice and give a danm?


6 posted on 08/05/2013 11:36:20 AM PDT by I want the USA back (There's no autocorrect for stupidity.)
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To: xzins

7 posted on 08/05/2013 11:36:36 AM PDT by SENTINEL (Kneel down to God. Stand up to tyrants. STICK TO YOUR GUNS !)
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To: xzins

The law says Congress and staff are not exempt.

SO, they just agreed to ignore that I guess.


8 posted on 08/05/2013 11:36:52 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: knarf

Don’t the house and Senate have to vote to amend ObamaCare to exempt Congress and staff?

In a sane world.


9 posted on 08/05/2013 11:37:43 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: xzins
"This is exactly why America rightly hates Washington," Vitter charged. "Obamacare's a train wreck, even for Congress. So it gets fixed -- for Congress only. What the flip about fixing it for America?"

I honestly don't have anything printable to add to that.

10 posted on 08/05/2013 11:42:51 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: GeronL

It’s a financing scheme they’re using as a work-around, if I understand correctly.


11 posted on 08/05/2013 11:44:40 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

The Train Wreck known as Obama[don’t]care is intentionally designed to fail and was always intended as an interim step to SINGLE PAYER RUN “SYSTEM” RUN BY THE FEDS. If everyone hates it, and massive numbers of doctors leave the profession, plus half the hospitals close, this is all fine Barry, et.al They fully expect to be able to sell their Dream for You & Me (but not them) when we are sufficiently horrified and abused. By that time, Larry the Cable Guy will be accepted to medical school.


12 posted on 08/05/2013 11:45:04 AM PDT by Sioux-san (So)
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To: xzins

Thanks John Roberts! /s


13 posted on 08/05/2013 11:46:02 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: Sioux-san

How can a “deal” rise above an actual law?

If they are above petty things like laws, then why in the world should we obey this law?


14 posted on 08/05/2013 11:47:07 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Billthedrill

I have plenty of things to say and would but then I’d be banned from FR for life.


15 posted on 08/05/2013 11:49:34 AM PDT by rhubarbk (It's official, I'm suffering from Obama fatigue!)
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To: GeronL
...why in the world should we obey this law?

Don't worry. We won't.

Start asking all of your doctors what their cash price is.

16 posted on 08/05/2013 11:52:14 AM PDT by brewcrew
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To: GeronL
How can a “deal” rise above an actual law?
If they are above petty things like laws, then why in the world should we obey this law?

Better question: if they are exempt from the consequences of laws, are they not also exempt from the protections of the law?

17 posted on 08/05/2013 11:54:46 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: rhubarbk
I have plenty of things to say and would but then I’d be banned from FR for life.

At this point I think everyone is in agreement with you.

18 posted on 08/05/2013 11:56:02 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: xzins

Where’s the vote list?


19 posted on 08/05/2013 12:00:11 PM PDT by indthkr
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To: knarf

As I understand, this was not put to a vote - It was done by Executive Action.


20 posted on 08/05/2013 12:05:09 PM PDT by eCSMaster (Palin was right (again)!)
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To: indthkr
This is how the Wall Street Journal described it:

By Michael Kitchen LOS ANGELES (MarketWatch) -- The White House has approved a deal that will create a regulatory fix for members of Congress and their staff related to some of the provisions of the Affordable Care Act, according to media reports. Under the law, popularly referred to as Obamacare, lawmakers and their aides were required to source health insurance "created" by the law or offered through one of its exchanges; and without the subsidies they currently have, the members of Congress would have faced thousands of dollars in additional premium payments each year, the reports said. However, the Office of Personnel Management now plans to rule that the government can continue to make a contribution to the health-care premiums of the lawmakers and their staff, according to unnamed congressional sources and a White House official. (This report has been updated to clarify the regulatory changes.)

Basically, it sounds like Obama "decreed" it just like he "decreed" the employer mandate exemption.

21 posted on 08/05/2013 12:08:26 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: brewcrew
"...why in the world should we obey this law?"

Don't worry. We won't.

Are you prepared to refuse to pay the Obamacare fine for not complying?

22 posted on 08/05/2013 12:10:12 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
Are you prepared to refuse to pay the Obamacare fine for not complying?

I'm not sure yet. I guess I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.

23 posted on 08/05/2013 12:12:12 PM PDT by brewcrew
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To: xzins

http://confoundedinterest.wordpress.com/2013/08/05/obamacare-disaster-cadillac-coverage-should-be-renamed-titanic-coverage/

Watch unions be exempted next.

Look at the rate differential for young men vs young women. Another Obama war.


24 posted on 08/05/2013 12:13:27 PM PDT by whitedog57
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To: brewcrew

My niece already had an after-hours, cash-only MRI much cheaper than the advertised prices.

So Yes, it is headed that way.


25 posted on 08/05/2013 12:15:47 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: xzins

Their constituents hsould be waiting for these bastards with hot tar and feathers.

We ahve done this to ourselves. As long as incumbency is a given for elected Congressional and Senatorial officials, they will remain the Houses of Lords.


26 posted on 08/05/2013 12:16:01 PM PDT by ZULU ((See: http://gatesofvienna.net/) Obama, do you hear me?)
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To: xzins

This is as nice as I can put it right now.

SCREW these people!


27 posted on 08/05/2013 12:16:48 PM PDT by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: Windflier
Are you prepared to refuse to pay the Obamacare fine for not complying?

With the IRS doing the collecting I can't see how you can refuse.

28 posted on 08/05/2013 12:16:55 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: xzins
This is like a Mel Brooks movie!



"Gentleman, this program is so wonderful, we are obviously not worth as humble servants to be part of its greatness! A grand round of hrumphs for us! "

"Now if you will excuse me, I have 20,000 suckers....um constituents to avoid back home in my district..... which I've moved to the Caribbean for the duration.
29 posted on 08/05/2013 12:24:32 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: xzins

What’s the best kind of rope and trees to do what has to be done?


30 posted on 08/05/2013 12:26:52 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Goodbye America. Glad the majority of my years were spent during the good days.)
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To: Old Yeller

An old stately oak and a visit to one’s favorite marine/boat supply store for some of the best rope imaginable.

I always liked those awesome hangman’s knots they tied in the old westerns.


31 posted on 08/05/2013 12:28:36 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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In a special 'before-it-was-ever-a-law' deal I exempted myself.

I don't obey laws made by the lawless. I don't even consider them guidelines.

32 posted on 08/05/2013 12:29:16 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: whitedog57
Watch unions be exempted next.

... and then the poor (the Obama voters), who can't afford the fines and don't pay taxes.

33 posted on 08/05/2013 12:31:10 PM PDT by alancarp (Obama will grab your guns and ship them to Mexican drug mobs.)
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To: GeronL

I think our PINO and Holder have shown us a number of times that they ignore the laws they don’t like and violate the Constitution with reckless abandon. I have come to expect that of them. What is really unforgiveable is the so-called “Other Side” letting them get away with it all so easily.

We can ignore the law like Barry, but I am quite sure we would end up in big trouble. Still trying to decide where my line in the sand is drawn....I am ashamed to say...


34 posted on 08/05/2013 12:35:12 PM PDT by Sioux-san (So)
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To: xzins

“deemed” passed...or something like that.


35 posted on 08/05/2013 12:37:37 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: xzins

When it comes to Congress Boehner can do more than pass meaningless Obamacare repeals.


36 posted on 08/05/2013 12:37:41 PM PDT by RginTN
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37 posted on 08/05/2013 12:42:40 PM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: xzins

Let’s use the five week recess to make it a hot August for Congress critters when they are back home. Americans should be incensed that Congress gets a special deal while the rest of us get the shaft.


38 posted on 08/05/2013 12:45:08 PM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Windflier

>>Are you prepared to refuse to pay the Obamacare fine for not complying?<<

Refuse too long and your door will get kicked in....oh round 3:30am. You won’t be dreaming those fellers clad in black with automatic weapons.


39 posted on 08/05/2013 12:45:28 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: xzins

It is luverly to be Tsar.


40 posted on 08/05/2013 12:46:58 PM PDT by Shady (It is called LIBERTY...Freedom linked to Responsibility. Any questions?)
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To: xzins

The Politburo always gets better medical care than the peasants. Doesn’t everyone know that by now?


41 posted on 08/05/2013 12:54:03 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: xzins

I’m pretty sure that Obamacare fazed out the old “subsidized” health insurance plans that gov’t employees had available. Rather than “exempting” the Gmen, which isn’t actually possible since there will be no place to “stay”, this new scheme is more of a payroll thing wherein the guy who writes their paychecks will be able to throw in a little “obamastash money” to cover some/most of the difference the Gmen will see when they go to a new plan such that their out-of-pocket will not change as much. They’re just being given a “raise” without re-publishing the pay scale.
I’m not saying it’s not a clusterflock but it appears to be managed as a payroll issue. The cute part is that, since thousands of people are involved, it’s not a small amount of money, and congress will eventually have to vote on the change in the congressional budget. In the short term the question to ask is “where the bleep did they get the money to hand out the raises to everybody?”


42 posted on 08/05/2013 12:55:12 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: Shady

It is unimaginable how big a mess this obamacare thing is now.

I’d think that the Congressional republicans would be all over the news tonight spewing forth on how special exemptions get handed to everyone but employers, and that NOW that CONGRESS itself has been exempted that THAT gives the right to DEFUND specific portions of ObamaCare since they’ve been DRUG INTO IT, a separate branch of the government.


43 posted on 08/05/2013 12:56:03 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Jewbacca
"Wow, they don’t even pretend any more, do they?"

I'm almost 70 years old...if you young folks aren't 'in the streets' over this outrageous act...what will it take to get you worked up?

These politicians are acting like they're royals.

Mark my word, once they get these benefits, they'll go with them even when they leave congress.

You may not be able to afford your own but, you will pay these benefits for the 'royals' or you'll be jailed.

You better do something NOW!

44 posted on 08/05/2013 12:59:06 PM PDT by blam
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I seem to recall that they make an income of approximately 4 times the average family of 4 income in the US. Yet, they admit that it is unaffordable to the upper class while forcing it down the working class’ pocketbook!

These people are sickening.


45 posted on 08/05/2013 12:59:19 PM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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46 posted on 08/05/2013 1:00:50 PM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: xzins
Every single Dumbocrat should have to answer for this at every townhall, since they are the ones who voted for it, as well as RINO leadership, Boehner, McConnell, Cantor, McCarthy, who seem to be so good at making deals with our Dear Leader: Amnesty, Benghazi, Obamacare.

Support Mike Lee's effort to defund it: DontFundIt.com

47 posted on 08/05/2013 1:02:42 PM PDT by athelass (Proud Mom of a Sailor & 2 Marines - Clinging to my Bible and my guns for dear life.)
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To: Jewbacca

No the have trained the public to except what they say years of dumbing down is paying off for them.


48 posted on 08/05/2013 1:08:14 PM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Sioux-san

If you are afraid of a fight then perhaps you should stay on the curb, clap when necessary. I guess you have to decide whether you have anything worth defending. A fight isn’t a first choice for many of us but failure to fight when necessary is fatal. I drew my line about four decades ago after an unfair audit showed me there was always reason to fight to win. And remember you are not alone——there are something like 100 million of your closest friends out here who are armed to the teeth and not interested in taking cheap crap from heavy handed bureaucrats.———————Semper Fi


49 posted on 08/05/2013 1:08:18 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: servantboy777
Refuse too long and your door will get kicked in....oh round 3:30am. You won’t be dreaming those fellers clad in black with automatic weapons.

The first time the jack boots try that, will probably be the last. The country's like a dry prairie just waiting for the right spark to light it up. With odds at 100: 1, it's the last thing they want.

No, I expect the regime will punish folks through the courts and other alphabet agencies, for refusing to pay the fine. That's even if Obamacare survives that long. As soon as implementation begins, I expect to see a slew of lawsuits at the federal level. The exemptions they've granted so far, are clearly unconstitutional.

50 posted on 08/05/2013 1:08:36 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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