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82 lawmakers ask for end to ban on gay men donating blood
The Hill ^ | 08/05/13 | Ramsey Cox

Posted on 08/05/2013 12:45:42 PM PDT by fwdude

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To: elcid1970

I’d be Gallon Club except I was stationed in Germany in the 1980’s and later they decided that meant I was exposed to mad cow disease, so I can’t donate anymore. I keep going back to the Bloodmobile but that stupid rule hasn’t changed.


Yes. Mad Cow covers most of Europe and really hurts would-be military blood donors. But it’s a real concern, along with a lot of other geographically-related blood-transmitted diseases. Can’t be too careful with the blood supply.

I wish we had a blood screening test for politicians. Eliminate those blood-sucking PC collectivists in a hurry!


101 posted on 08/05/2013 2:16:12 PM PDT by JT Hatter (Who is Barack Obama? And What is He Really Up To?)
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To: fwdude; All
I recommend my FReeper brothers and sisters bank their own blood. There is a NYC company which does this and can store your blood for 10-20 years, and ship it anywhere within 24 hours should you need it for surgery. Here is their site: www.idant.com
102 posted on 08/05/2013 2:22:52 PM PDT by montag813 (NO AMNESTY * ENFORCE THE LAW * http://StandWithArizona.com)
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To: montag813
You can donate to your own private blood bank. I would advise this.

Yes, I agree. But the purpose of autologous donations is almost always in anticipation of a planned surgery or other medical procedure. Your blood is stored at a predetermined facility and prepped (thawed) before in anticipation for the event.

But unforeseen traumatic injuries are, by far, the usual call for blood transfusions, and you're only an unanticipated accident away from needing this. You can't be sure you'll be in the vicinity of your own blood when it happens. And even preserved blood has a shelf life; you'll have to continually donate regularly for yourself to make sure the supply is current and viable.

I'm not dissing your suggestion, just pointing out its limits.

103 posted on 08/05/2013 2:26:42 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: C210N

“if it saves just a single life to keep the ban in place, then isn’t it worth it?”

hmmm... that sounds sort of familiar....

/sarc


104 posted on 08/05/2013 2:27:57 PM PDT by CaptainKip
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To: fwdude
I'm not dissing your suggestion, just pointing out its limits.

True. See my last post. That company freezes the blood so it is good for years past the 35-42 day limit. It takes 60-90 minutes to defrost if you are close by and your hospital permits it.

105 posted on 08/05/2013 2:31:15 PM PDT by montag813 (NO AMNESTY * ENFORCE THE LAW * http://StandWithArizona.com)
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To: fwdude

If you donate your own blood autologously for your own later use, you’ll be labeled a “hater.” Watch and see.

We’re already “haters” for locking our car doors, according to Homobama.


106 posted on 08/05/2013 2:37:42 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: EDINVA

I have been in situations where blood transfusion was necessary. If you have a system of labels I wouldn’t give a tinkers damn as to the integrity of such a system. I believe that there are enough homos in the medical profession that they would mislabel for their own constituency’s benefit. Best is just to not have any tainted blood in the transfusion world.


107 posted on 08/05/2013 2:44:20 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: fwdude
FDRQ delenda est...
108 posted on 08/05/2013 3:12:35 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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I like the sound of stocking up your own blood. But I have to wonder if that would be an extra cost to the hospital to access it, thaw it, etc. because if it is, say goodbye to that option after Obamacare takes effect.


109 posted on 08/05/2013 3:18:23 PM PDT by jodster36
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To: fwdude

I seem to recall that, in the late 1980s, there was some teen boy who died of AIDS he had contracted through a blood transfusion. The first name was Ryan, I am pretty sure, and the last name may have been White.

Did not read this piece, to be honest, but why do these clowns think someone else cannot become infected this way?


110 posted on 08/05/2013 3:29:48 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Let me hear what God the LORD will speak. -Ps85)
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To: noinfringers2

My point is simply that were these Members (or their own family members) subject to the gamble of receiving possibly tainted blood they would not be so quick to encouraging its being put into the blood banks.

I spent 3 months over the past season trying to give blood but was always rejected because my iron count was half-a point or a single point below the requirement. To the best of their ability blood banks properly screen for and accept only ‘healthy’ blood. Pressure from influential/well funded groups should not even be a consideration. Shame on the pols who are promoting this.


111 posted on 08/05/2013 3:34:08 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Pearls Before Swine; Cowboy Bob

It’s all designed to shove the “homo-normative” delusion upon us. They want to force us to embrace queerdom.


112 posted on 08/05/2013 3:42:35 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: fwdude

Label the donations as from Homosexual or non-Homosexual

Make sure you ask for non-homo blood before you go in.

Oh wait, that is profiling.

Plan B: stay healthy, don’t require surgery. And if you do and have time before hand, self donate.


113 posted on 08/05/2013 3:42:49 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: Cowboy Bob

Look up “Plasma Donation”...money to be made.


114 posted on 08/05/2013 3:45:39 PM PDT by Jotmo (Whoever said, "The pen is mightier than the sword." has clearly never been stabbed to death.)
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To: C210N
Let me guess... Congresscritters will be exempt from this as well...

Irrelevant, as they are blood suckers, not donors.

Five gallons and rising,
GtG

115 posted on 08/05/2013 4:03:43 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: fwdude

Stupid, stupid idea. I checked the CDC’s own numbers on this a couple years back. Gay and Bisexual Men account for 47 times as many new cases of HIV and Syphilis than straight men and most other demographics.

Yes, our testing has gotten better since 1983. But no testing method is foolproof. And it is simply not sound medicine to accept donations from a demographic that is nearly 50 times as likely to test positive for HIV and syphilis, which is also a potentially deadly disease.

The counterargument I would propose to these congressfolks would be this: If we are to allow gay men to donate blood when those risks are so high, then why not remove ALL restrictions? Surely those same screening tests will be just as effective against IV drug users, prostitutes or men who have been with prostitutes, and anyone who originally hails from certain Sub-Saharan African nations?


116 posted on 08/05/2013 4:04:26 PM PDT by DemforBush (Bring me the head of Alfredo Garcia!)
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Thanks fwdude.

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117 posted on 08/05/2013 4:18:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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118 posted on 08/05/2013 4:20:34 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: fwdude
If you donate your own blood autologously for your own later use, you’ll be labeled a “hater.” Watch and see.

We’re already “haters” for locking our car doors, according to Homobama.

Better safe than sorry!

I donated five pints to myself prior to cancer surgery and they were never used. All five pints wound up being dumped as they don't/didn't do rigorous testing for autologous donations. I was 53 and had never donated blood before, I waited out the five year waiting period for a clearance to donate and have been donating ever since. I'm a couple of pints away from six gallons, I did platelets for a while but my doctor said to stick to whole blood. I didn't like the extra wait between donations for platelets and giving whole blood helps keep my BP in line.

Regards,
GtG

119 posted on 08/05/2013 4:41:09 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: fwdude

**82 lawmakers**

Then they can be the first in line to get gay transfusions.


120 posted on 08/05/2013 4:49:06 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: brownsfan
its not worth it to even have the slightest chance of catching a disease, a deadly disease....

if this happens, we're going have to self donate and keep our own blood in blood banks for our use only....

better yet, I think we should grab the average gay guy off the street, get a unit of blood, and infuse it into one of these legislatures kids....no testing needed...

121 posted on 08/05/2013 5:04:59 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Mike Darancette
Time to set some of my blood aside.

It's only good for about 6 weeks, I think.

If you ever have an emergency operation, you can worry about whether the donor had AIDS. But on the plus side, you can feel good that no sodomite felt insulted about being refused from making a blood donation.

122 posted on 08/05/2013 5:13:36 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: JT Hatter

Excellent point and this is a twist on the common leftist gun control talking point...”If only one life is saved”...


123 posted on 08/05/2013 5:15:27 PM PDT by MSF BU (n)
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To: JT Hatter

I am in the same boat. Every time I get forgetful I wonder if the Mad Cow onset is here for me.


124 posted on 08/05/2013 5:17:53 PM PDT by MSF BU (n)
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To: JT Hatter

What happened in France?


125 posted on 08/05/2013 5:19:15 PM PDT by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: fwdude

I think the Red Cross has something to say about who they take blood from. I seem to remember they take queer blood but use it for plasma. there’s no federal facility, except the military in emergencies, that I can think of, that actually draws blood. Maes you wonder what these geniuses are actually talking about?


126 posted on 08/05/2013 5:20:36 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: Venturer

I thought that one could be infected with HIV for several months before it would even show up on a test...


127 posted on 08/05/2013 5:21:07 PM PDT by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: Patriotic1

I believe that is true.


128 posted on 08/05/2013 5:38:40 PM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: fwdude
How many innocents have already died from AIDs tainted blood from homosexuals?
Or is it "biased" and/or "discriminatory" to even ask that question?
129 posted on 08/05/2013 6:35:33 PM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: fwdude
Enzi was the only Republican to sign the letter

Astounding! Absolutely astounding!

With the stroke of a pen Enzi pissed away the one advantage he had over Cheney in his primary race.

Words fail me...

130 posted on 08/05/2013 7:01:25 PM PDT by rhinohunter (Freepers aren't booing -- they're shouting "Cruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuz")
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To: MSF BU

Excellent point and this is a twist on the common leftist gun control talking point...”If only one life is saved”...
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The ...”if only one life is saved...” is a load of leftist drivel that doesn’t survive critical scrutiny (abortion and death penalty, for example).

In the case of blood contamination, however, the consequences are real and certain.


131 posted on 08/05/2013 7:07:43 PM PDT by JT Hatter (Who is Barack Obama? And What is He Really Up To?)
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To: Patriotic1

What happened in France?
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Even after it was known HIV was transmitted in blood products, several French pharmaceutical companies distributed HIV contaminated products worldwide. Some say 6-8K people (mostly hemophiliacs) were infected. The USA and other countries came up with new blood treatment methods and screening methods to improve the supply (this was in mid-1980s).

While the rest of the world stopped taking blood from homos, the French kept on doing it and a lot of French, as well as others, got infected with HIV. It was a huge scandal in Europe. The French government was involved in covering it up and some French health ministers got convicted of contributing to murder (but most were let go).

The lesson is you can’t let corrupt PC government bureaucrats make decisions like this. Their ideology trumps the common good and evil and suffering is always the end result. Kinda sounds like the USA these days.


132 posted on 08/05/2013 7:20:35 PM PDT by JT Hatter (Who is Barack Obama? And What is He Really Up To?)
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To: fwdude

Of course congress has their personal blood banks for themselves and their families, so like every law they inflict on us, they won’t be affected.


133 posted on 08/05/2013 7:23:06 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Goodbye America. Glad the majority of my years were spent during the good days.)
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To: fwdude
Eighty-two lawmakers in the House and Senate signed on to the letter, including Sens. Tammy Baldwin (D-Wis.), Mike Enzi (R-Wyo.) and Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.). Enzi was the only Republican to sign the letter.

Eighty-two out of 535... close to 15%.
About the same percentage of the total population which suffers from serious psychological and emotional handicaps.

Personally, I don't care about the proposal, so long as "Truth in Packaging" laws are religiously (if you'll pardon the expression) observed.

134 posted on 08/05/2013 7:44:29 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: Beagle8U
It isn't just aids, the queers keep inventing nasty new diseases every day.

Like what? (Not disputing, just curious.)

135 posted on 08/05/2013 9:01:14 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (I am in charge!)
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To: ScottinVA
Enzi, huh?

He must be getting some pressure from either a family member or someone who has some “skeleton-in-a-closet” info on him.

YUP, very queer of him. It seems odd & out of character. I suspect he is listening to polling experts and consultants who told him to swing left a little on social issues because he is AFRAID of hyped up RINO Liz Cheney challenge.

136 posted on 08/05/2013 10:17:49 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: GeronL
Geron,

Are you donating to a family member or to a good friend?

About a year ago I read that 5% of the people on the national kidney wait list are FORMER kidney donors.

That put a chill down my spin.

In the past I had thought seriously about making an altruistic donation.

I will still take the risk for friends and family, but pure altruism, sorry, that impulse has ended.

137 posted on 08/05/2013 11:59:16 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen
I just read through a list of Google articles on the “HIV Window” period.

That means, how much time must pass before an initial infection can first be detected.

The shortest “Window” period I found was 9 days.

4-8 weeks seems to be the generally accepted “Window.”

Almost every source recommended re-testing at 3 months and 6 months for absolute certainty.

138 posted on 08/06/2013 12:28:29 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

my sister


139 posted on 08/06/2013 1:39:50 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
New strains Herps and Hep and things they haven't even named yet.

A group of people who dip their appendages in $hit and then put them in their mouth are going to spread lots of disease.

140 posted on 08/06/2013 11:44:36 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: JT Hatter

Agreed.


141 posted on 08/06/2013 12:48:29 PM PDT by MSF BU (n)
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To: GeronL

If your hospital/provider won’t agree to do it for you, there are independent (for pay) providers of this service.

It’s probably worth it.

“Auto-Transfusion is a process where patient receives his or her own blood instead of donor blood. This is a
common pratice for joint replacement surgeries and can be performed before, during or after surgeries.
During autologous blood donation patient donates his or her blood for own use, this process can commence
up to 5 weeks before surgery, which will be stored and reinfused as needed during or after the surgery. As
own blood is receptive to the body, it is an extremely safe way to help the patient in the recovery process.”


142 posted on 08/06/2013 8:00:02 PM PDT by mbj
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To: mbj

I think that will be something I will try when the time comes


143 posted on 08/06/2013 8:02:13 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Jim Scott; archy; 3boysdad; NVDave; microgood; wildandcrazyrussian; Big Horn
That Enzi signed it should signal the end of his senate career.

I agree. Someone has something on him so this BS can be bipartisan. He can't be this dumb. Blood testing isn't infallible. A lot of things can go wrong, besides it takes time for antibodies to develop.

Colorado man’s fatal West Nile infection likely came from blood transfusion

144 posted on 08/08/2013 3:33:13 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: neverdem

I agree that this is stupid on steroids.

The problem we now have in Wyoming is that from what I know of Cheney, she would have voted for this as well.


145 posted on 08/08/2013 7:16:07 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: NVDave

Good luck finding someone else.


146 posted on 08/08/2013 10:55:04 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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