Skip to comments.Alex Rodriguez Suspended Through 2014, Still Belongs In The Hall Of Fame
Posted on 08/06/2013 6:07:23 AM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi
After weeks of waiting, MLB has finally announced its Biogenesis suspensions. Twelve players have been hit with 50-game suspensions, and Alex Rodriguez has been issued a suspension through the 2014 season for a total 211 games. Because A-Rods suspension will come under the Joint Drug Agreement, he can still play while he appeals the punishment and will be in the New York Yankees lineup tonight for the first time this season.
Many have questioned how the suspension will impact Rodriguezs legacy (see here, here and here), and its a subject that will undoubtedly be debated for years to come. Whats not up for debate, though, is that A-Rod has been among baseballs best players since he took over as the Seattle Mariners starting shortstop in 1996, and he ranks among the most dangerous hitters of all time.
Rodriguez is currently 16th in career wins above replacement (Fangraphs) with 114, ranking ahead of Rickey Henderson, Jimmie Foxx, Mike Schmidt and Carl Yastrzemski. He is fifth all-time in home runs with 647, and he ranks second behind only Barry Bonds among those who played during the steroid era. In other words, of all the sluggers who used or allegedly used performance enhancers, only one has gone deep more times than A-Rod. His three MVP awards are tied for second-most in history, and in 19 seasons hes ranked among the top ten in MVP voting ten times.
Put more simply, Rodriguez absolutely dominated his era and is an all-time great. If not for steroid allegations, Rodriguez would not only be a shoo-in for the Hall of Fame, but a likely choice for first-ballot enshrinement.
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Meanwhile, I posted yesterday, somewhat tongue in cheek..that ALL the suspended players ( except Braun) are Latino...nobody in the sports media has touched that one as yet..
No he doesn’t...he cheated. Period.
Yeah, well ... I heard they’re tryin’ to silence ANOTHER player ... Ben Ghazi.
...Alex.... drug user...
Consider him AFTER Pete Rose
Drug user, fornicator and selfish, deceptive narcissist. No doubt he reflects the values and customs the culture that spawned him. Hall of Fame? He is a prime candidate to be a Democratic nominee.
No one who artificially enhanced their stats through anything should be in the hall of fame.
Rodriguez admitted to doing so earlier in his career, he’s accused of it again, but that he’s already admitted to past use is all I need to know. It means his stats aren’t real.
Since his stats aren’t real, he shouldn’t be in the Hall of Fame. It’s not even a hard question to answer.
Luckily, no one really considers either wiener head for the Hall
This clown fails to see the absurdity of skipping over Bonds to induct AR. And after citing Bonds as having better stats.
He belongs in the Hall of Shame.
Yeah, he belongs in the Dopers Hall of Fame.
Consider Pete Rose decades AFTER Shoeless Joe Jackson.
Inducting drug-enhanced record holders is no different than giving a Nobel Prize to assholes who have done nothing at all (most accomplish nothing, though drug-enhanced, in that case).
He will never get in. It’s not all about numbers. Obviously, this author hasn’t read the voting rules that refer to integrity and sportsmanship. This is why Bonds, McGwire and the rest of the cheaters will never get in either.
I read a story last night that MLB is aware young Caribbeans are using steroids since in their countries there is no regulation compared to here and then drafting them to play over Americans that work the old fashioned way.
Post of the day. ...an ego like that won't be silenced.
If you have the link..I’d appreciate it...
LOL! That was awesome.
"Apart from voting in elections, the 700,000 remaining residents of the Motor City are no more responsible for Detroit's problems than were the victims of Hurricane Sandy for theirs." Steven "Rat" Rattner
"If we had some eggs we could have eggs and ham, if we had some ham." Groucho Marks.
Just do like cycling did with Lance Armstrong, simply delete all stats & records for any years where he was doing illegal drugs, then re-evaluate his career numbers.
More interesting is that 8 of the 13 are or were clients of the sports agency, ACES.
2013 clients busted for PED’s
- Nelson Cruz (left today)
- Jordany Valdespin
- Antonio Bastardo
- Sergio Escalona
- Jesus Montero
- Jhonny Peralta
- Francisco Cerveli (left in 2012)
- Everth Cabrera (left in 2012)
If you are a MLB player and they represent you, find a new agency now.
By cheating you mean his use of testosterone and HGH? So other than providing him with a competitive advantage of quicker recovery time, ask yourself did it improve his batting average or fielding? One could Rgue that it may have given him additional strength to muscle say 15-20 more homers than usual but so what.
If these PEDs were all they claim then how is that the guys in the minors, who are still in the minors, have not made the jump to the bigs let alone are today’s stars.
Hitting 3 out of 10 is still the gold standard in baseball and the last I checked only 26 players are currnently above that mark. ARod gas a lifetime average of .300 and if he was getting a “boost” from the PEDs then can someone explain to me his .263 post season career average.
It is old but I just found it:
Here are some more:
This cheater should be laughed out of the game. ARod should have a lifetime ban.
Pete Rose broke a rule but just damn, he didn't cheat - for years.
Rodriguez most definitely does NOT belong in the HoF.
He disappeared in post season. His numbers are deceiving, he does great when nothing is on the line, but folds when it matters.
Right on. Sports writers are hero worshippers and they won't go to the dark side for their hero's. His number mean nothing now. He is a cheat.
As if Rodriquez was using steroids to re-grow hair. Is the writer this dense?
Now he's ruined two Rangers' seasons.
The is so wrong.
Have a nice day!!
We'll see...Rangers 5; Angels 2 without Cruz...they face weak opposition throughout August.
Well maybe the other guys will step up. And they do have fairly solid pitching.
At least it should improve their defense.
Did you see Murphy in right last night? :-)
Well I didn’t say it would be a big improvement.
No question about that...
Say it ain’t to, A-Rod.
Pete Rose will get into the Hall of Fame before A-Roid.
What is so wrong about "the"?
Are you kidding me? Which stats do you consider not legit? I guess if he was a lifetime .260 hitter, with a 125 hr, 80 3b, 250 2b, 1200 total hits he would be considered legit. Please see my earlier post and exain to me how any of the the cheating arguments can be explained. Do a side by side comparison of any of the big names that have been tainted against the all time legends of the game and then post your analysis of which stats aren’t legit. The only one that will stand out is home runs, but then how many of those came against the best pitchers versus some shlub middle deliver or flash in the pan 2-5 year guys?
Pete Rose broke a rule after he retired as a player and was a manager. He only bet on his team to win. Never accused of cheating or throwing games. Seems like a good way to motivate someone, if you win you make money, you lose and you don’t get paid. IMHO, Pete has been punished long enough. He was a great player.
Pete Rose got pinched for betting on his own team TO WIN, and he’s still not in the hall of fame. A-Roid’s flat out cheated to give himself and edge. He should never be allowed in.
don’t recall saying a word about stats.
Yeah Pete Rose IMO was the greatest all-around player the game has seen - or at least a darn good argument can be made so.
And he did not use PEDs. He could just do it.
oh yes, gambling is good for the game - brilliant! What could possibly go wrong?
He he he nobody thinks gambling is good for the game LOL. But a comparison between the punishments for gambling and years of PED usage shows that gambling has a much, much greater punishment than years of PEDs.
That is what the problem is IMO.
I would think that whatever the punishment for a manager betting to win would not be as severe as a player cheating with PEDs for years.
Pete Rose didn't cheat.
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