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T.S.A. Expands Duties Beyond Airport Security
New York Times ^ | 08/06/2013 | RON NIXON

Posted on 08/06/2013 8:18:05 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: OneWingedShark
Disagreed very much; the use of eminent domain in the fifth says that it's "for public use" —

Only if you incorporate the Fifth Amendment under the 14th.

There is a long history of precedent of eminent domain takings for private benefit by the states going back to the early days of railroads and barge companies. In fact, Abraham Lincoln made his political name by rigging such deals, a corporate RINO from the get-go if you will.

So, yes the taking by New London for a private entity was an abomination. As to whether it should fall under the purvey of the Federal government to enforce the Fifth Amendment against the states, please consider this article. I am not sure you have considered the unintended consequences of such a preference.

51 posted on 08/06/2013 11:49:56 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers choices: convert, submit, or die.)
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To: Carry_Okie
So, yes the taking by New London for a private entity was an abomination. As to whether it should fall under the purvey of the Federal government to enforce the Fifth Amendment against the states, please consider this article. I am not sure you have considered the unintended consequences of such a preference.

Incorporation is another disaster. But I was arguing it on even their [the court's] own terms. As it is I really dislike incorporation: where else can we take the bill of rights, apply magic, and get something that utterly binds the States to the will of the Federal government?

The best, and most obvious, example is the First Amendment:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
The restriction is placed on Congress, not the legislature, so applying the text as-is would do nothing to the States as they don't have a congress. So in order for the First Amendment to have any impact on the States it has to be altered in some way. How does this happen? Magic!
(Or, I suppose, a judge with a hat and some magic stones could do it.)
52 posted on 08/06/2013 12:05:30 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark
But I was arguing it on even their [the court's] own terms.

Please make that clear; else you waste our time. Kelo was correctly decided. I still think you'd profit by the article, but then, I wrote it.

53 posted on 08/06/2013 12:17:21 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers choices: convert, submit, or die.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Any morons out here that didn’t see this coming?

Who started this giant bloated, costly new government program/department

Who oversaw and helped create this TSA monstrosity?

Bush again!


54 posted on 08/06/2013 12:46:46 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: SeekAndFind

Rodeos? If there is one bunch of folks who can take care of themselves it’s cowboys. Don’t show up at a rodeo wearing a burka or asshat.


55 posted on 08/06/2013 1:02:08 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: SeekAndFind

Just curious. Were there any white “agents” in attendance?


56 posted on 08/06/2013 2:23:44 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (If you vote for evil because you can't see evil, you ARE evil!)
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To: Vigilanteman

And soon the TSA will be at Miss America and other beauty contests....


57 posted on 08/06/2013 2:36:01 PM PDT by OldArmy52 (The question is not whether Obama ever lies, but whether he ever tells the truth.)
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To: justlurking

Have you forgotten the Patriot Act? Bush gave up most of your rights for you when he signed that treasonous piece of paper.

I don’t know but I suspect that if you read the small print you’ll find that when you purchase a ticket to ride on public transportation you are also agreeing to meekly obey the commands of their security officers.


58 posted on 08/06/2013 4:58:29 PM PDT by B4Ranch (AGENDA: Grinding America Down ----- http://vimeo.com/63749370)
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To: Vigilanteman
More security theater to enforce the Obama Doctrine: Every citizen, a potential terrorist; every terrorist, a potential higher breed of citizen.

Don't forget the Republicans that enabled this under the Bush administration. It would easier to deal with this if this just a liberal/Democrat thing, but it's not.
59 posted on 08/06/2013 5:06:01 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: SeekAndFind

Gotta make sure we are protecting against creepy cracker domestic terrorists who are clinging to their bibles and guns.


60 posted on 08/06/2013 5:09:15 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: B4Ranch
I don’t know but I suspect that if you read the small print you’ll find that when you purchase a ticket to ride on public transportation you are also agreeing to meekly obey the commands of their security officers.

You are required to pass through security in order to fly on an airline. That's in the contract. Even the TSA has finally admitted they have no right to detain you if you choose to decline further screening and leave the secure area of the airport. It took a couple of court cases, but that is now official policy.

If I buy a ticket on a subway line, I didn't agree to anything but to pay the fare in exchange for a ride. Have you ever seen even a sign saying that you are consenting to a search if you ride a metro transit line? And again, even if I did agree to such a contract or if notice is provided, it becomes null and void if I decline to board the transit line.

The TSA only gets away with this crap because people allow them to. Don't allow it. It will result in some inconvenience for you, but you have no obligation to submit to an unconstitutional search. They can't search you unless you are suspected to have committed a crime.

This "stop and frisk" crap goes on in NYC, and Bloomberg knows that it's unconstitutional. But, he is betting that the victims are either not educated enough to refuse, or are afraid they will be detained and prosecuted for OTHER crimes.

61 posted on 08/06/2013 6:37:47 PM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
TSA has an affirmative action plan in place to hire Muslims and homosexuals. I travelled again this weekend and can attest to that.

If a homosexual grabs feels your inner thigh in public it is assault. If a TSA homosexual does it in an airport, it is legal - sometimes mandatory if you want to fly.

Most of the TSA agents watching the doors at the Dallas/Ft. airport are Muslims.

None of this is going to end well.

62 posted on 08/06/2013 7:34:53 PM PDT by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the Whitehouse.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“...T.S.A. Expands Duties Beyond Airport Security...”

...exactly as they were slated to do. This was on the wish list from day one.


63 posted on 08/07/2013 9:38:23 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Vigilanteman

Sick.


64 posted on 08/07/2013 9:45:00 AM PDT by swampthang77
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