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Charlotte Taskforce Recommends All Male, All Black K-12 School
Opposing Views ^ | 08/08/2013 | By Sarah Siskind

Posted on 08/08/2013 1:38:12 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd

Schools in Charlotte-Mecklenburg, North Carolina, are taking a moment to reevaluate things.

According to WBTV, district superintendent Dr. Heath Morrison has taken steps to confront serious problems in the education system. Of the 22 task forces Morrison created, one is tasked with addressing recurring problems of the black male youth. In the Charlotte-Mecklenburg district during last year alone, 20,000 black males were given short-term suspensions while 3,000 white males were given the same punishment.

The discrepancy was one motivating for the task force to recommend the founding of a new, all male, all black school.

Proponents argue that such a school would be safer and foster greater empathy.

“The African American male wouldn’t have to argue over females,” says rising 9th grader George Whitley. “And we can just get along and relate to each other. We wouldn’t have to worry about insults and racism.”

However, the school may encounter some legal troubles. Mary McCray, chairperson of the school board, argues, “If we are going to have an all-black school, all male school then we must create an all female school because of Title IX.” On the one hand, an all-male school may alleviate some tension. On the other hand, the presence of girls may have a mollifying effect on adolescent boys.

This is to say nothing of the troubles of implementing a one-race school program when students of other races apply from the surrounding area. Some have raised concerns of a return to segregation.

The proposal is still being discussed.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: education; northcarolina; segregation
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Sooooo..... They want to bring back Segregation.

How Nice.

1 posted on 08/08/2013 1:38:12 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

It’s for the Victims of Racism, don’tcha know.


2 posted on 08/08/2013 1:40:41 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Ask me about the Weiner Wager. Support Free Republic!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

My older son graduated from, and my younger son currently attends an all-male high school. I graduated from the same school. It was a great experience. As an aside, my older son is friends with the author of this article. Small world.


3 posted on 08/08/2013 1:42:36 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Instead of job placement after graduation, they will have prison placement...


4 posted on 08/08/2013 1:43:26 PM PDT by null and void (Some day your prints will come...)
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To: Responsibility2nd
"Separate but Equal"...

Haven't we already had this discussion?

5 posted on 08/08/2013 1:43:30 PM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Behavior Insights Team Exigency Monitoring Executive (BITEME))
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To: Responsibility2nd
“And we can just get along and relate to each other.

....and sing Kum-by-ya and make smores and be happy-happy-happy...........

6 posted on 08/08/2013 1:44:32 PM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I think an all male black school is a great idea -— just as long as they have an equally-funded all white male school too. And if they want an all-female black school and an all-female white school too, then more power to them. But let’s not forget the all-Hispanic and all-Asian schools either. And for good measure, lets have an all-LGBT school too, but just one, so we don’t end up with a dozen different sub-categories. (An all-LGBT school is particularly attractive because the decision to have only one kind of bathroom should be much easier.)


7 posted on 08/08/2013 1:46:09 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

So george Wallace was right???


8 posted on 08/08/2013 1:46:42 PM PDT by Fellow Traveler
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To: null and void

I say go for it if it will change them from being the thugs they are set to become today, it SURE ain’t workin this way!!!


9 posted on 08/08/2013 1:48:38 PM PDT by Shimmer1 ("What a poor, ignorant, malicious, short-sighted, crapulous mass." John Adams)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I chose to go to an all-girl high school 200 miles away from home. I was a good student, but too popular (girlish blush) and asked to go away so I could actually learn something. Fortunately, parents could afford it. It was a really excellent experience. Vacations back home ? I’m not admitting anything, but teenagers are required to be a little bit rebellious.

So if these black boys can benefit from removing distractions, results may be positive. Yah, segregation, but voluntary. THAT in itself could lead in a good direction, if that’s what it takes.


10 posted on 08/08/2013 1:51:22 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely expressed as advice)
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“The African American male wouldn’t have to argue over females,” says rising 9th grader George Whitley. “And we can just get along and relate to each other. We wouldn’t have to worry about insults and racism.”

Sorry, George. But "insults and racism" are not why black males fail in school. They fail because many don't give a damn, don't want to learn, disrupt class, fight, deal drugs on campus, consider studying as "acting white", etc. etc.

On the other hand, the presence of girls may have a mollifying effect on adolescent boys.

For the last gazillion years, teenage girls DO NOT have a "mollifying" effect on teenage boys. Just the opposite. Teenage boys preen and pose in front of them, get turned on by the modern whorish clothes they wear and fight each other over girls.

This article is too stupid to breathe.

11 posted on 08/08/2013 1:52:43 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: Responsibility2nd

Sounds like old fashioned southern SEGREGATION to me.

I’m from the intermountain area of the Rockies where everyone went to school together.

When my dad dragged us kids kicking and screaming to the Ozarks, the first thing we heard on the news was desegregation in Little Rock’s Central High!

I asked my dad,,”What is segregation?”

When he told me I could not comprehend it!

Then came Mississippi, Alabama, Ga. What had we gotten into! but then we lived in a section of the Ozarks where WE were the hated outsiders as everyone at our school was kin to everyone else in our school, except us, even though we were all the same race.


12 posted on 08/08/2013 1:54:33 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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It’s not going to change them from being the thugs they are today.

It will affirm everything they are and believe.


13 posted on 08/08/2013 1:54:39 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Shimmer1
In truth, it probably would help.

Better to have at least the individual classes separated by sex during the peak of the hormonal tsunamis that define teenager-hood.

More focus of classwork than asswork, if you will.

It's clear to even the most casual of (non-NEA union member) observers that the current system isn't working.

Change something!

14 posted on 08/08/2013 1:56:34 PM PDT by null and void (Some day your prints will come...)
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To: Responsibility2nd

With uniforms, to stifle their creative mode of dress?


15 posted on 08/08/2013 1:58:42 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
I suggest a REALLY tough all male military school for them...super heavy on discipline.
16 posted on 08/08/2013 2:00:12 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Liberals' first line of defense is emotion...the fall back position is specious reasoning.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Good, all those “Black Studies” and “Negro Studies” degrees can get put to use teaching these kids.

Best put the “experts” on the case.

But somehow I don’t think those degree earners will be signing up to teach in the inner city, but will instead opt for the suburbs. Call me skeptical.


17 posted on 08/08/2013 2:01:19 PM PDT by esoxmagnum (The rats have been trained to pull the D voting lever to get their little food pellet)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Yeah. Does this mean the white kids get to go to school where the other kids are white kids?

It was like that when I was growing up, which as I remember wasn't all that bad, but for some reason they decided not to do it that way anymore.

18 posted on 08/08/2013 2:05:45 PM PDT by Kenton
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To: Responsibility2nd
Separation of boys' and girls' education was a revered educational technique practiced from classical times until the early 20th Century. Fred Reed, a retired Washington Tines and Soldier of Fortune reporter, advocated this position in a recent column on his web site, http://www.fredoneverything.net/Reseg.shtml. Some Catholic schools retain all-boys and all-girls student bodies. As for racial segregation, if you held to the neighborhood school concept, most schools would be predominantly of one race anyway.
19 posted on 08/08/2013 2:08:18 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: Responsibility2nd

Been done many times. Try a Conway, SC, High School, circa 1977. Brand new building. Stunning. Had multiple theaters and a massive commons. Trashed in 2 years. Trashed. Torn seats, holes in walls, windows broken, theaters destroyed, classrooms vandalized, parking lot looked like a tornado hit it, etc. Even the buses looked trashed. All black school.


20 posted on 08/08/2013 2:08:52 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: GeronL

That might be true too. I don’t know, but SOMETHING has to give!


21 posted on 08/08/2013 2:09:05 PM PDT by Shimmer1 ("What a poor, ignorant, malicious, short-sighted, crapulous mass." John Adams)
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To: Responsibility2nd
It's a "Culture Thing"; blacks don't play by the Laws, and they violate them as a way of life.

No redeeming social value comes to mind.....

22 posted on 08/08/2013 2:10:22 PM PDT by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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To: Responsibility2nd
This is a long read and partly a teacher's despair, but it's very eye-opening on the utter lack of ambition and morals in *some* inner-city schools.

Essay by a Teacher in a Black High School

23 posted on 08/08/2013 2:10:34 PM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be what you might have been.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Jim Crow’s back only this time, he’s black. :)


24 posted on 08/08/2013 2:12:36 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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i’m all for it - now they can beat, kill their own kind - it will be a regular thunderdome, getting all those ghetto gangs packed under one roof. Sounds like a genocide on a budget plan by the KKK. Geez.


25 posted on 08/08/2013 2:15:27 PM PDT by Deathtomarxists (hillary's cankles smiled at me)
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To: CodeToad
No high school can run without strong discipline, whether it in the slums or the upscale suburbs. Private schools, religious or not, seldom have this problem, as misbehaving students are expelled. This is as true at the Sidwell Friends School, where Clinton's and Obama’s children have been educated, as at any fundamentalist Protestant or traditional Catholic academy in flyover country.
26 posted on 08/08/2013 2:16:00 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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Yep - that’s why all the black universities are pretty trashed - its not because of lack of funding. Its because thats their culture. I went to an all white school, beautiful facilities, top in the state. Then they started busing. In a few short years the place was trashed, grades plummetted, and police roamed the halls. Its not about race - its about culture and until they change their culture there will be no hope and change.


27 posted on 08/08/2013 2:18:24 PM PDT by Deathtomarxists (hillary's cankles smiled at me)
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To: Sender
Read that same article from a FReeper perspective.

 

This thread has been locked, it will not receive new replies.
Locked on Monday, July 29, 2013 10:24:11 AM by Admin Moderator, reason:

 

Off the rails

 



Essay by a teacher in a black high school
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28 posted on 08/08/2013 2:21:59 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

In Seattle, they set up an African-American Academy to supposedly address these same issues, yet the academic performance at that school remains well below the average for the district as a whole.


29 posted on 08/08/2013 2:22:50 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Responsibility2nd

In a couple of years some “social justice warrior” will notice that all the kids getting in trouble at that school are...gasp.....black!!!! Cries of racism and much gnashing of teeth will ensue.


30 posted on 08/08/2013 2:27:00 PM PDT by gop4lyf (Are we no longer in that awkward time? Or is it still too early?)
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In a couple of years some “social justice warrior” will notice that all the kids getting in trouble at that school are...gasp.....black!!!! Cries of racism and much gnashing of teeth will ensue.

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I doubt it. So far - no one but us conservatives - have noticed all the black kids getting murdered daily in inner city ghettos have been by ... gasp! ... other blacks.


31 posted on 08/08/2013 2:30:19 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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A high school teacher told me he complemented a black boy who was doing extremely well. The other blacks beat him so severely he missed several days. When he came back he never performed again. I conclude that the greatest danger a black boy faces is other black boys.


32 posted on 08/08/2013 2:32:32 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: sitetest
Separating the sexes, and requiring uniforms, would improve the learning environment in these schools 1000% for almost no cost.

The other structural problems would remain, but the fact that these two simple, obviously beneficial steps have not been taken, and probably never will, tells me the govt has no real interest in improving compulsory govt education.

33 posted on 08/08/2013 2:36:33 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: GeronL

I hope they allot 2-3 acres for a school cemetery.


34 posted on 08/08/2013 2:39:46 PM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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and a large jail and court room in the basement


35 posted on 08/08/2013 2:40:25 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Responsibility2nd

The discrepancy was one motivating for the task force to recommend the founding of a new, all male, all black school.

Who exactly do they think will want to teach in that school?
Navy Seals?


36 posted on 08/08/2013 2:50:47 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: All

All male school is excellent. K-8 is not, however, necessary or particularly helpful. 9-12 is where the greatest value of one sex schools is made.
Racial segregation is an amazingly stupid idea. There is nothing to be gained by separating boys by race. The only outcome would be racial identification, increased ghettoization, cultural deprivation and a host of pathologies.
Enough with racial politics. We are one culture.


37 posted on 08/08/2013 2:55:10 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: catnipman

Let all schools be private so they can have a school just for left-handed, green-eyed midgets of the astrological sign of Scorpio if they want.

Yeah, I know. Dream on....


38 posted on 08/08/2013 3:06:29 PM PDT by Nea Wood (When life gets too hard to stand, kneel.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

———There is nothing to be gained by separating boys by race-——

The colored school will have the best football and basket ball teams


39 posted on 08/08/2013 3:06:40 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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The colored school will have the best football and basket ball teams

Maybe, but the other schools will have cheerleaders.

40 posted on 08/08/2013 3:13:37 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Will it be called the Orval Faubus Comprehensive School?


41 posted on 08/08/2013 3:17:43 PM PDT by wideawake
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Dear Trailerpark Badass,

Yeah, that’s how they do it at my sons’ high school. No girls. Dress slacks, dress shoes, ties, blazers. Juniors and seniors get a different color blazer to show rank.

Most young men thrive in a disciplined environment where education is a priority and distractions (like the presence of young ladies) are minimized. Each year, between 99% and 100% of the graduating class at my sons’ school goes off to college.

Did I mention that their school is majority minority?


sitetest

42 posted on 08/08/2013 3:25:02 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Veto!
"Yah, segregation, but voluntary."

Good point, IMHO.

43 posted on 08/08/2013 3:26:45 PM PDT by hummingbird (THE LIBERTY AMENDMENTS by Mark Levin. He's got a great plan!)
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To: sitetest

My daughter just graduated from a coed Catholic school where the classes are sex separated after 5th grade. I didn’t know many of the boys in her graduating class but during the graduation activities it was easy to see a different kind of maturity and collegial spirit among them.


44 posted on 08/08/2013 3:35:47 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

What about diversity?!?!


45 posted on 08/08/2013 3:36:21 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: catnipman

NYC has a new all-LGBT school, the Harvey Milk HS.


46 posted on 08/08/2013 3:38:35 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: catnipman

This brings to mind a joke with the punch-line being delivered by a red neck: “I think I’ll have a Coke.”


47 posted on 08/08/2013 4:00:16 PM PDT by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G.K. Chesterton))
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To: Responsibility2nd

Can’t help but not the irony: Charlotte Mecklenberg was one of the major school desegregation cases

That must have worked out really welll


48 posted on 08/08/2013 4:42:42 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (LEAVE THE ZIMMERMANS ALONE . . . NOT guilty . . .you LOST Now SHUT UP)
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Can’t help but not the irony: Charlotte Mecklenberg was one of the major school desegregation cases. That must have worked out really well.

Yeah. I was there. Starting in 7th grade I went to four schools in six years (without changing neighborhoods) to satisfy the 30/70 black/white balance. It was lots of fun being one of the new kids over and over again. Thanks CMS. And it did a lot of good, too. CMS is still a crappy school district.

49 posted on 08/08/2013 5:30:23 PM PDT by aberaussie
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To: Responsibility2nd

the idea, though appearing “racist” is to allow the black male youth to have little in school social relationship distractions to sideline them from focusing on the academics they need to be focused on

Thomas Sowell has written on his studies of education in the 1950s how the segregated all black schools in Washington D.C. had academic scores higher than the national averages, without knowing their education was “inferior” because no whites were in their classroom.

It would be wonderful if such an idea was not even considered necessary, but considering the MOTIVATION as racist is an error I believe. The only real concern should be what environment will be best for the students to focus on acadmeics above everything else.


50 posted on 08/08/2013 5:54:17 PM PDT by Wuli (uir)
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