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Elysium: Hollywood's Familiar Nightmare, and the Enduring Technological Dream
Breitbart - Big Hollywood ^ | August 8, 2013 | Hamilton

Posted on 08/08/2013 1:39:31 PM PDT by EveningStar

The new movie Elysium, starring Matt Damon and Jodie Foster, is more loaded with liberal politics than an Organizing For America fundraising pitch. It’s more loaded with liberalism than an Ivy League gender studies department. More loaded, even, than an MSNBC roundtable discussion.  

Still, it’s a pretty cool movie, featuring an intelligent, if scary, take on the future. And so it merits our attention, because even if one doesn’t agree with its liberal slant, one must realize that liberals have half, at least, of the marbles in American politics--that is, the White House, the Senate, and, of course, the media, of which Elysium is a part.   

So if liberals are making noise about something, then conservatives have to think about it, too--if only to react and to combat. 

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cinema; dystopia; elysium; film; healthcare; immigration; jodiefoster; mattdamon; movies; obamacare; review; sciencefiction; scifi

1 posted on 08/08/2013 1:39:32 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Borges; DollyCali; Perdogg

ping


2 posted on 08/08/2013 1:40:07 PM PDT by EveningStar ("What color is the sky in your world?" -- Frasier Crane)
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To: EveningStar
starring Matt Damon and Jodie Foster, is more loaded with liberal politics than an Organizing For America fundraising pitch

Certainly explains why John Hinckley thought that shooting Reagan would impress her.


3 posted on 08/08/2013 1:41:29 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: EveningStar
Liberal politics? Matt Damoron?

WHAT a surprise!


4 posted on 08/08/2013 1:48:53 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: Buckeye McFrog

lol! Hey you might be onto something there. As we have seen with John Wilkes Booth, Democrat actors have an issue with Republican Presidents.


5 posted on 08/08/2013 1:51:32 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: Buckeye McFrog

They can fantasize all they want. As long as there is a second amendment, they are just pi$$ing into the wind.


6 posted on 08/08/2013 1:52:45 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

7 posted on 08/08/2013 1:54:57 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Note to the NSA: I approved this dissention. What are you going to do about it Punks?)
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To: EveningStar

Well....we shall see how Mr. Damon & company do with this flick!!! Fact is: It’s the Obamabots that are the rich & elite who are destroying our country!!! Me......not a cent for these low life hypocrites!!!!


8 posted on 08/08/2013 1:57:35 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: EveningStar

I can enjoy a liberal movie if it’s good, China Syndrome is a favorite and total propaganda.

I see from the review they pegged Asians as evil too. Now Asians in America to my knowledge don’t have any great racist history, so I guess Asians are evil for being smart and successful.

And the Hispanics down on earth - they have a whole world of Hispanics and they can’t do anything unless they take over the rich people in a space station?

Isn’t this movie preaching that hispanics are inferior?


9 posted on 08/08/2013 1:58:59 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: EveningStar

Oh, and the poor world is all hispanics and they need white Matt Damon to save them? Isn’t that totally racist?


10 posted on 08/08/2013 1:59:55 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: EveningStar

Liberals make a lot of movies like this, but don’t understand that they are making movies about themselves. As San Fransisco became an enclave of white liberals, blacks had to move over to Oakland.


11 posted on 08/08/2013 2:09:37 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Fledermaus

LOL! That is the greatest ever made.


12 posted on 08/08/2013 2:13:02 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: EveningStar
In this film, the rich are not only getting richer, but by the year 2154, they have gotten so rich and so high-tech that they have left the planet. They have ascended to a private wheel-shaped spacecraft orbiting the earth, where they enjoy life in a kind of extraterrestrial Beverly Hills.

Meanwhile, the teeming masses are left behind down on earth--the scenes having been filmed in the slums of Mexico City, to give you an idea of how bad it is--to work in dangerous industrial jobs or to devolve into gangsterism and “Mad Max”-like savagery.

So basically the movie is about the rich liberals living in Hollywood and their poor servants and gardeners living in South Central Los Angeles, only Hollywood liberals do not understand that they are describing themselves.

13 posted on 08/08/2013 2:14:17 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: Williams

The movie misses the basic point that if a bunch of rich people left Earth for a space station, they would leave all the resources behind. The people on the station would quickly become poor, and some other people on Earth would become rich.


14 posted on 08/08/2013 2:14:43 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: EveningStar

“...liberals have half, at least, of the marbles...”

One could say they’ve lost some of their own marbles.


15 posted on 08/08/2013 2:15:53 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: EveningStar
In other words, if much of the film looks like today, why not set it in today?

Because we don't actually have substantial space colonies today ...

Or at least sooner than 2154?

Do people really pay attention to the dates in science fiction?

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The movie got mixed reviews -- some pretty good, some bad, most somewhere in-between. The consensus seems to be that Blomkamp didn't live up to his potential, that didn't do as well with Elysium as he did with District 9. There were plot holes, and even some liberal reviewers and bloggers objected to the simplistic politics.

But the idea of the rich space colonies and the poor home planet (or vice versa) is an established SF trope -- up there with the dying earth and the necessary escape to other planets. It's one of the things that filmmakers come back to over and over again

16 posted on 08/08/2013 2:22:36 PM PDT by x
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To: EveningStar

I can’t understand how a South African could make this movie:

Does he think what SA has become is somehow BETTER than what it was before..?

Other than SA’s corrupt leaders, almost no one there would say that, certainly not anyone old enough to personally remember the old SA.

How can someone LIVE through the whole enCrapification process, but then ask that the process be REPLICATED elsewhere..?


17 posted on 08/08/2013 2:22:47 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: EveningStar

Oh, Soylent Green did this years ago and I’m sure with more intelligence.


18 posted on 08/08/2013 2:41:42 PM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Williams

White Hispanics or plain jane brown ones?/s


19 posted on 08/08/2013 2:48:27 PM PDT by Dallas59 (Obama: The first "White Black" President.)
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To: EveningStar

Not for me.


20 posted on 08/08/2013 3:01:09 PM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag
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To: EveningStar

Liberals are too stupid to know where technology comes from. These idiots literally think that it grows on trees and is supplied “by Obama”. So it is impossible for them to understand the implications of uneducated and illiterate illegals taking the jobs, healthcare, housing, and basic necessities away from bright kids attempting to pay for their future in technical education.


21 posted on 08/08/2013 3:04:39 PM PDT by Wanderer99
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To: Williams
I can enjoy a liberal movie if it’s good, China Syndrome is a favorite and total propaganda. I see from the review they pegged Asians as evil too. Now Asians in America to my knowledge don’t have any great racist history, so I guess Asians are evil for being smart and successful. And the Hispanics down on earth - they have a whole world of Hispanics and they can’t do anything unless they take over the rich people in a space station? Isn’t this movie preaching that hispanics are inferior?

Lazy and stupid = good

Intelligent and productive = evil

We do not need to write a book on liberalism because those two simple equations summarize it completely
22 posted on 08/08/2013 3:06:42 PM PDT by Wanderer99
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To: Vince Ferrer
The movie misses the basic point that if a bunch of rich people left Earth for a space station, they would leave all the resources behind. The people on the station would quickly become poor, and some other people on Earth would become rich.

Unless the station is advanced enough to produce those resources, in which case the uneducated Earthlings would have little to no hope of maintaining it.
23 posted on 08/08/2013 3:09:03 PM PDT by Wanderer99
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To: Vince Ferrer

You make a valid point, except that liberals don’t understand the basics of what makes people wealthy. They think it’s just a form of oppression.

On a related note of hypocrisy, a friend has relatives in Hollywood who are friends with stars including Steven Spielberg. They are so privileged and used to worship that even if you are their “friend” and stop over to pick your kid up or whatever, they may not even look up or answer when you speak to them. You’re just not there.

Also he claims they despise self made men, and they love old money, that they only respect those who came from money and that many of the successful stars are the kids of rich parents.

Just sharing.


24 posted on 08/08/2013 3:26:00 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: EveningStar

Elysium sounds to me like a leftist Utopia, with the rest of the world resembling what the left is creating. Keep voting for Democrats (socialists), and some form of Elysium will be the result.


25 posted on 08/08/2013 3:36:48 PM PDT by pallis
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To: All

It’s a rip off of a 60s Star Trek episode called: The Cloud Minders - Kirk and Spock are caught up in a revolution on a planet where intellectuals and artists live on a utopian city in the sky while the rest of the population toils in mines on the barren surface below.


26 posted on 08/08/2013 3:41:36 PM PDT by DHerion
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To: Wanderer99
Unless the station is advanced enough to produce those resources, in which case the uneducated Earthlings would have little to no hope of maintaining it.

What I mean is, if the space station is competely disconnected from the economy of the Earth, it will have the economy and resources of a small city. The Earth will still have all the resources of the Earth, plus the labor pool of a whole planet. And since wealth is created by filling others needs, it is easier to become wealthy on Earth than on Elisium, since Earth still would have a larger population.

If they are not completely disconnected from Earth, but depend on Earth for resources, then it would be vastly more expensive to send those resources up to Elisium than to use them on Earth. Earthlings and Earth companies still win. Elisium would have to trade a lot of intellectual capital to get raw materials sent to the station, which would benefit Earth.

And finally, the movie seems to claim that in 2134 that the Earth will be overpopulated, which is another old liberal meme which will not come true. We will be lucky if we have half the current population by then.

27 posted on 08/08/2013 3:42:25 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: EveningStar

“Hard Wired” by Walter Jon Williams 0-812-55796-4


28 posted on 08/08/2013 3:54:33 PM PDT by Liaison
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To: miss marmelstein
Oh, Soylent Green did this years ago and I’m sure with more intelligence.

It's not a new theme, Roddenberry did it in 1969.

Star Trek episode #76: "The Cloud Minders">

29 posted on 08/08/2013 4:54:14 PM PDT by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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To: DHerion

“It’s a rip off of a 60s Star Trek episode called: The Cloud Minders - Kirk and Spock are caught up in a revolution on a planet where intellectuals and artists live on a utopian city in the sky while the rest of the population toils in mines on the barren surface below.”

I can’t believe how many movies today are simply re-treads of old ones; in some cases just slight changes to the title and throw it back out there...


30 posted on 08/08/2013 5:22:55 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

I am convinced that damn near every sci-fi movie produced in the western world over the last 20 years is a rip-off of a 1970’s Doctor Who episode, but with big-name actors and a bigger SFX budget.


31 posted on 08/08/2013 5:38:55 PM PDT by coydog (Time to feed the pigs!)
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To: coydog

“but with big-name actors and a bigger SFX budget.”

Well put; I’m still waiting for the special effects to put these actors out of work; then they can go back to their lives as amoral junkies and prostitutes who take their clothes off for money.


32 posted on 08/08/2013 5:56:46 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: EveningStar

I stopped watching anything with Damon in it, along with several others.


33 posted on 08/08/2013 6:32:53 PM PDT by stockpirate (American taxpayer's are: The New World Order slaves for the collective.)
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To: EveningStar

Unless Jodie Foster shoots down Damon and he dies a fiery death, I don’t want to see it.


34 posted on 08/09/2013 7:12:00 AM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Vince Ferrer
Come to think of it, if the entire population of Earth is filled with liberal Democrats then all the resources will be useless. Any smart people who try to assemble equipment there will be immediately swarmed and destroyed by the legions of retards. So it will be like the movie where they just send down some robots to enforce what little law and order is possible.

So the grand irony is that this movie may be a realistic vision of the future. Earth won't be destroyed by lack of resources but instead by abundance of idiot liberals.

The scene where Elysium shoots down the ship may be their attempt to quarantine the idiot infection. They probably wouldn't even be that bothered by shooting down a ship full of families because the leftists of the future will be 'legally' killing their spouses and children every day.
35 posted on 08/09/2013 2:19:07 PM PDT by Wanderer99
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To: Vince Ferrer

Once the capabilities to build such a space structure are achieved, all the resources of the solar system are also available. The applied technical achievement of a human habitat implies learning to sustain oneself from resources gathered in place and not shipped from Earth. The pioneers that succeed will be makers not takers.


36 posted on 08/09/2013 5:11:56 PM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: Williams; All
I can enjoy a liberal movie if it's good,

Stop right there. Don't waste money on this dystopia, it is a Komplete Kolossal Krap with a Kapital K.

I don't really give away any of the plot by saying that they start the movie with inequity/inequality, immediately swerving into illegal immigration and end the movie with everybody becoming legal and having Universal Healthcare.

There are no "good guys."

The music is typical "dramatic," loud and unmemorable.

The "kick-ass" action is bland, unexciting and missing the kick.

There is plenty of advanced killing technologies to have someone killed fast and efficiently. Sometimes they feel like using it, but then, when it's most useful... sometimes they don't.

The supposedly "emotional" moments are impersonal, leave you cold and are "mailed-in" without even pretense at real emotion. The movie is just boring and drones on and on - feels like there should be a fast-forward/skip button.

The movie relies on "star power" (Damon, Foster, Braga) and the "99% / Occupy" crowd to sell tickets. Due to the "action" and "social justice" theme, it also should do somewhat OK BO overseas, on which Hollywood is having to rely more and more.

There are also serious gaps in logic, and some are obviously unintended (as they blow up the theme) but the crew knows their audience will not ask simple questions like:

Why does 2154 Los Angeles look and feel like 2013 Detroit, only with about 90% Hispanics instead of 90% of blacks? And how and why did it become so, and who (if any) should take responsibility for this vision of the "melting pot"? {pun intended}

Why are people on Earth, those who are lucky to have a job, doing the jobs that the many advanced robots in the movie are more than capable of doing better and more efficiently, and presumably, cheaper - in fact, today's robots are already capable and are doing these jobs.

Why, after practically destroying and trashing the Elysium, is the super-advanced medical instruments and technology is still available and becoming immediately accessible to the population of Earth which is [apparently] is at least 99 times bigger than population of Elysium.

If you want a good dystopian movie, watch Director's cut of Blade Runner or original Total Recall (1990 edition, not horrible 2012 remake) - both based on Philip K. Dick's short stories - or buy/rent Atlas Shrugged I and II DVDs.

37 posted on 08/09/2013 10:32:19 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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