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Encrypted email Lavabit used by Snowden shuts to avoid 'complicity in crimes against Americans'
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Posted on 08/09/2013 7:15:15 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA

The highly encrypted email service reportedly used by NSA leaker Edward Snowden has gone offline - and its administrator claims the company is legally barred from explaining why.

On Thursday, the homepage of Lavabit.com was changed to a letter from the company’s owner announcing that the site’s operations have ceased following a six-week long ordeal that has prompted the company to take legal action in the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals.

Now in the midst of an escalating fight from the federal government aimed at cracking down on encrypted communications, one of the last free and secure services has thrown in the towel under mysterious circumstances.

“I have been forced to make a difficult decision: to become complicit in crimes against the American people or walk away from nearly ten years of hard work by shutting down Lavabit. After significant soul searching, I have decided to suspend operations,” owner and operator Ladar Levison of Dallas, Texas wrote in the statement. “I wish that I could legally share with you the events that led to my decision. I cannot.”

“I feel you deserve to know what’s going on--the First Amendment is supposed to guarantee me the freedom to speak out in situations like this. Unfortunately, Congress has passed laws that say otherwise,” wrote Levison. “As things currently stand, I cannot share my experiences over the last six weeks, even though I have twice made the appropriate requests.”

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1 posted on 08/09/2013 7:15:15 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA

THEY CANNOT EVEN EXPLAIN WHY THEY ARE SHUTTING DOWN!

THIS IS TRULY ORWELLIAN!


2 posted on 08/09/2013 7:15:50 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Red in Blue PA

another plane ticket to russia . . .


3 posted on 08/09/2013 7:17:28 AM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Police State


4 posted on 08/09/2013 7:23:52 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Red in Blue PA

Guys like Rand Paul are gonna start doing SOOOOOOOO well at the ballot box thanks to this.


5 posted on 08/09/2013 7:25:20 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Red in Blue PA
“I feel you deserve to know what’s going on--the First Amendment is supposed to guarantee me the freedom to speak out in situations like this. Unfortunately, Congress has passed laws that say otherwise,” wrote Levison. “As things currently stand, I cannot share my experiences over the last six weeks, even though I have twice made the appropriate requests.”

I want to know what law this is.

6 posted on 08/09/2013 7:26:51 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: GOP Poet

I could tell you what the law is but I would be arrested.


7 posted on 08/09/2013 7:28:35 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Red in Blue PA
I still don't "get" how any law can trump the First Amendment.
8 posted on 08/09/2013 7:29:20 AM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: GOP Poet
I want to know what law this is.

Secret laws? All Orwellian states have them.
The feds are good at making threats and they have plenty of laws with draconian sentences to threaten with.
I would guess that they're harassing the guy to give them ALL the stored mail data, for all his subscribers, not just Snowden.
And he is refusing to do so. That is very brave.

9 posted on 08/09/2013 7:35:37 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: BitWielder1

Remember Comrade ignorance of the law is no defense...


10 posted on 08/09/2013 7:50:32 AM PDT by Kozak ("Send them back your fierce defiance! Stamp upon the cursed alliance! To arms, to arms.....")
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To: Red in Blue PA

Friggin Marxist bastards claim “If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.”

How about “When the government fears the people, there is liberty; When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”

“The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is as a last resort to protect themselves against tyranny in government.”


11 posted on 08/09/2013 7:56:27 AM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: Red in Blue PA

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12 posted on 08/09/2013 7:57:47 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: GOP Poet
My guess is that all ISP's have been required by some secret provisions (or secret interpretations of open provisions) in the Patriot Act to provide back doors so the NSA can listen to all traffic going through ISPs.

This guy didn't want to do that, and so he had to either violate the law or stop doing business.

It seems to me he has decided on the most difficult and commendable path: shutdown his business and fight the law through the courts.

My best hopes and wishes go out to him.

13 posted on 08/09/2013 7:58:43 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: GOP Poet
I want to know what law this is.

He's not allowed to tell you precisely what law.

14 posted on 08/09/2013 8:01:01 AM PDT by no-s (when democracy is displaced by tyranny, the armed citizen still gets to vote)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Wonder what this means for Reagan.com? Their advertising seems to indicate that they don’t cooperate.


15 posted on 08/09/2013 8:01:32 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Dalberg-Acton

I still don’t “get” how any law can trump the First Amendment.

Must be nice living in the la la land of actually beleiving the potiticians actually belive in following the constitution......

The constitution is only a problem for lawmakers when smeone brings a case to the supremers and only then it is a 50/50 crapshoot it would be turned over due to being unconstitutional...


16 posted on 08/09/2013 8:07:29 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Guys like Rand Paul are gonna start doing SOOOOOOOO well at the ballot box thanks to this.

Assuming guys like Rand Paul aren't arrested beforehand as enemies of the state.

*****Chris Christie approves this message*****

17 posted on 08/09/2013 8:07:49 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

You better generate a new private key. That’s not the part you’re supposed to send out.


18 posted on 08/09/2013 8:08:53 AM PDT by Monty22002
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To: Monty22002
It was for illustrative purposes only.

https://www.igolder.com/pgp/generate-key/

19 posted on 08/09/2013 8:17:05 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: Red in Blue PA
THEY CANNOT EVEN EXPLAIN WHY THEY ARE SHUTTING DOWN!

Hint: They are deemed a "security risk," and thus all personnel will find themselves in Gulags.

20 posted on 08/09/2013 8:19:26 AM PDT by USS Johnston (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. ~ Edmund Burke)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Ok, phew.


21 posted on 08/09/2013 8:19:35 AM PDT by Monty22002
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To: Dalberg-Acton
I still don't "get" how any law can trump the First Amendment.

The US Constitution is now just a %$#@! damn piece of paper.

Simply, it's just a prop. Frankly, we are at a State of Emergency and a coup has taken place -- only we are pretending otherwise.

22 posted on 08/09/2013 8:22:45 AM PDT by USS Johnston (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. ~ Edmund Burke)
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To: GraceG
Like this one:

United States v. Lopez (93-1260), 514 U.S. 549 (1995), limiting Congressional authority under the Commerce Clause.

23 posted on 08/09/2013 8:24:03 AM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: Red in Blue PA

Riddle me this: if there is no domestic spying program, then why do the Feds care if we encrypt our emails?


24 posted on 08/09/2013 8:24:21 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: USS Johnston

“Security risk” now means a threat to the federal government, not to our nation.


25 posted on 08/09/2013 8:25:17 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: USS Johnston

This is the last we will be hearing from him. Hope his family has the good sense to shut up when he decides to Commit Suicide by driving into a tree.


26 posted on 08/09/2013 8:29:03 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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To: Gadsden1st

Who? Snowden?


27 posted on 08/09/2013 8:34:07 AM PDT by USS Johnston (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. ~ Edmund Burke)
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To: USS Johnston

Ladar Levison

He announced what happened and brought attention to action taken against him.


28 posted on 08/09/2013 8:38:22 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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To: GOP Poet

Whatever law it is, it’s unconstitutional and should be disregarded by the citizenry. Enough of waiting for the Supreme Court to do its job, they have already proven they can’t be relied upon. We just need to start disobeying unconstitutional laws, en masse.


29 posted on 08/09/2013 8:40:27 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Gadsden1st

The guy has obviously been threatened and coerced.


30 posted on 08/09/2013 8:40:39 AM PDT by USS Johnston (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. ~ Edmund Burke)
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To: Dalberg-Acton

They can’t.


31 posted on 08/09/2013 8:40:47 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Red in Blue PA

Crimes against Americans ? Think they mean crimes against the American Government. Which we all know now, contains very few Americans.


32 posted on 08/09/2013 8:41:47 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Boogieman
We just need to start disobeying unconstitutional laws, en masse.

Is that what today's script sez? :-)

33 posted on 08/09/2013 8:42:16 AM PDT by USS Johnston (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. ~ Edmund Burke)
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To: GOP Poet

Most likely, it’s Section 215 of the patriot act.


34 posted on 08/09/2013 8:45:03 AM PDT by HogFixer
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To: HogFixer

http://www.npr.org/news/specials/patriotact/patriotactprovisions.html


35 posted on 08/09/2013 8:50:05 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: USS Johnston

What script?


36 posted on 08/09/2013 8:50:28 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Red in Blue PA

37 posted on 08/09/2013 9:27:43 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I totally agree with that.


38 posted on 08/09/2013 9:45:07 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: GraceG
I think we have a stark choice: either we have to allow the government to collect, scan, and analyze all electronic and voice traffic or we have to tolerate a few successful terrorist attacks on US soil.

The American people should be consulted in some formal way. For example, the congress could bring up a law to specifically reinforce the concept that we are innocent until proven guilty and that therefore no electronic communication can be collected, scanned, or analyzed until after the submission of a valid warrant.

The congress should make it clear to the people that this could allow some terrorists to successfully communicate with each other to conduct a terrorist attack.

The people can then tell their congressmen which way they would prefer they vote.

We will then know if we are a nation of quivering sheep who are OK living in a police state, or if we are still a nation of men and women who are willing to accept the occasional pitfalls of a free and open society.

39 posted on 08/09/2013 9:58:26 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

I vote for tolerating a few terrorist attacks over a tolerating a totalitarian government.

Terrorists at their worst can do far less damage than even an average totalitarian government.


40 posted on 08/09/2013 10:59:50 AM PDT by null and void (Some day your prints will come...)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
I think we have a stark choice: either we have to allow the government to collect, scan, and analyze all electronic and voice traffic or we have to tolerate a few successful terrorist attacks on US soil.

How is allowing the government the power to spy on those who might oppose communism going to in any way reduce the likelihood of a terrorist attack? If anything, it would more likely increase the likelihood of a terrorist attack by keeping out of power those who would actually take action against terrorism.

41 posted on 08/09/2013 4:15:30 PM PDT by supercat (Renounce Covetousness.)
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To: null and void

Thank you.

I like to see Freepers saying this succinctly and clearly. It has not been said enough by us, “the good guys.” We are strong against the world if we are strong internally. We are nothing if we enact our enemy’s exact government against ourselves, as though that will protect us. What would be left to protect?

Sadly there are too many Freepers who have (for the best of reasons, without realizing the problem) advocated the opposite for too long.

Wake up everyone! We need ALL of us bravely involved in defying totalitarianism!


42 posted on 08/09/2013 7:18:29 PM PDT by Weirdad (Orthodox Americanism: It's what's good for the world! (Not communofascism!))
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To: Carthego delenda est

I heard many a freeper use the if you have nothinng to hide... crap when the patriot act was being pushed.


43 posted on 08/10/2013 10:42:24 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: maggief; MestaMachine; Nachum; crosslink; penelopesire; SE Mom; onyx

FYI


44 posted on 08/11/2013 8:27:30 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then)
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To: Red in Blue PA

But ALL correspondence was historically immune to being read. How dare they claim they have a right to oppose it now! In fact, all correspondence should STILL be encrypted by default. It’s the historical norm.


45 posted on 10/03/2013 9:32:22 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Red in Blue PA
They are on Double-Secret Probation.

-PJ

46 posted on 10/03/2013 9:33:49 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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