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HUD Proposes Plan to Racially, Economically Integrate Neighborhoods
US News & World Report ^

Posted on 08/10/2013 5:20:20 AM PDT by bryan999

The Department of Housing and Urban Development has proposed a new plan to change U.S. neighborhoods it says are racially imbalanced or are too tilted toward rich or poor, arguing the country's housing policies have not been effective at creating the kind of integrated communities the agency had hoped for.

The proposed federal rule, called "Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing," is currently under a 60-day public comment period. Though details of how the policy would specifically work are unclear, the rule says HUD would provide states, local governments and others who receive agency money with data and a geospatial tool to look at "patterns of integration and segregation; racially and ethnically concentrated areas of poverty; access to education, employment, low-poverty, transportation, and environmental health."

States would then assess the best way to integrate communities deemed by HUD's data to not be integrated enough. A HUD official, who did not want to speak on record because of the public comment period, said the rule hopes to better match up HUD-assisted housing with the communities that have good hospitals, schools and other assets.

The move has been welcomed by civil rights groups including the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, whose senior director of the economic department Dedrick Muhammad says the policy could result in more access to economic resources for minorities.

"It's not just having people of different colors live together just to do so," he says. "African-Americans and Latinos are more likely to live in segregated communities, that are predominantly lower income, have less strong public resources, less schools and educational opportunities, employment opportunities. This kind of integration strengthens economic equality."

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KEYWORDS: attackmiddleclass; bankforclosureshud; communism; destroyhousingvalue; destroywealth; hud; naacp; stupidity; taxdollars
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1 posted on 08/10/2013 5:20:20 AM PDT by bryan999
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To: bryan999

This link will take you to what I believe is the official regulations.gov public comment section:

http://www.regulations.gov/#!docketBrowser;rpp=100;so=DESC;sb=docId;po=0;dct=PS;D=HUD-2013-0066


2 posted on 08/10/2013 5:22:45 AM PDT by bryan999
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To: bryan999
"more access to economic resources for minorities."

In simple terms, "more of Whitey's money to hand out to Blacks".

What else is new?

3 posted on 08/10/2013 5:23:28 AM PDT by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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To: bryan999

Rural properties are about to skyrocket.


4 posted on 08/10/2013 5:23:46 AM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (You hear it here first.)
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To: bryan999

We are all renters...


5 posted on 08/10/2013 5:24:29 AM PDT by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: bryan999

“he Department of Housing and Urban Development has proposed a new plan to change U.S. neighborhoods it says are racially imbalanced or are too tilted toward rich or poor”

Oh gosh, they’re going to integrate communities that are too “poor?” Reverse bussing? 1/3 of all public projects must be set aside for rich (white?) people?


6 posted on 08/10/2013 5:26:10 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

Fat chance.


7 posted on 08/10/2013 5:26:29 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: bryan999

This is why I refused to answer certain questions on the census forms. RACE American


8 posted on 08/10/2013 5:28:42 AM PDT by ABN 505
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Let’s see HUD move more of Eric Holder’s people into the Hamptons and Manhattan. Or is this central planning going to be foisted on Middle Class suburbs, as usual. Some animals are more equal than others, as is the case where Congress and their staffs are declared exempt from ObamaCare by order of the king.

One of these days the last straw will have broken the camel’s back.


9 posted on 08/10/2013 5:28:54 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: traditional1

Oh, that explains the obama cronies who got that taxpayer funded megaufund going to buy foreclosed houses, entire neighborhoods in some cases

they houses gonna be turned over to the underserved as perpetual tenants

cause we all know you can make someone middle class by giving them a middle class house in a middle class neighborhood and sending fatherless feral children to middle class schools


10 posted on 08/10/2013 5:29:16 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: bryan999

Hey GOP....you gonna FUND this crap?


11 posted on 08/10/2013 5:30:50 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: bryan999

So, how will this work? We will be forcibly evicted from our homes or apartments? Then moved into a ghetto of the governments choice. Will the affluent areas i.e. Hamptons, Beverly Hills, Park Avenue be exempted by Executive Order from The One?


12 posted on 08/10/2013 5:34:31 AM PDT by animal172 (My new hero....Trey Gowdy)
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To: WorkingClassFilth
Rural properties are about to skyrocket.

I moved WAY OUT away from the city of Chitcago to get as far away as possible from the "urban youths" that cause nothing but trouble, and now some government bureaucrat thinks where I live is "too white" and wants to FORCE via law those same "urban youths" onto the nice, clean, relatively crime-free area in which I live?

No. Not just no but HELL NO. If they try, I can pretty much guarantee there's gonna be a whole lotta Trayvon Martin's happening. Just sayin'.....

13 posted on 08/10/2013 5:37:01 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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14 posted on 08/10/2013 5:37:17 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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HUD should start with the following least integrated neighborhoods with concentrations of wealthy liberals: Martha’s Vineyard, Hyannis Port and Brookline in Massachusetts; the Upper West Side in Manhattan and the Hamptons on Long Island; Greenwich, CT; Bel Air and Beverly Hills in LA; Marin County outside San Francisco; and the heart of Princeton, NJ. They won’t.


15 posted on 08/10/2013 5:37:47 AM PDT by laconic
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To: ABN 505

You should have told them you were a native American, you know, like Liz Warren.


16 posted on 08/10/2013 5:38:57 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: bryan999

Eric Holder may finally realize his dream to end the “voluntarily socially segregated” life-style that we Americans have chosen.

The great social-engineers at work again to end our ability to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.


17 posted on 08/10/2013 5:39:00 AM PDT by gatopfs
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To: silverleaf

HUD doesn’t like the concentration camps produced by cities with decades of single, ‘rat party rule?


18 posted on 08/10/2013 5:39:19 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: silverleaf
"The Department of Housing and Urban Development has proposed a new plan to change U.S. neighborhoods it says are racially imbalanced or are too tilted toward rich or poor”

In related news, yesterday the Obama Administration announced a new "medicine cabinet tax" on Aspirin. Their reasoning: "it's white and it works."

19 posted on 08/10/2013 5:39:54 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: animal172

Well my goodness, they need to get started on the worst offenders right away.

The Hamptons, Malibu, all those “gentrified” neighborhoods in DC, where the black folks at? Subsidize them, move their poor deprived selves right into those seven figure properties, courtesy of the dwindling taxpayer.

The thing that I don’t quite follow is, do these people believe that “white” will rub off on the subsidized transplants, thereby improving them? Racist.

Or, is it somehow punitive because somebody dared to associate freely in choice of resisdences without consulting the racial bean counters? Racist too.


20 posted on 08/10/2013 5:42:35 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: bryan999

I purposely moved up, moved on, and moved out to get AWAY from the crap that threatens my safety and well being. Be it the crime, the pollution, the lack of civility, and hostile environment(s).

It is not about us being racist or bigoted or any such twist of fairness they want to cram down our throats and into our neighborhoods. How about teaching those people to live life like they have an American Dream to pursue!

“I’ll have those niggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years.” —Lyndon B. Johnson to two governors on Air Force One -


21 posted on 08/10/2013 5:43:05 AM PDT by EBH (The 'silent majority' is just as responsible for where this country is today as the screaming mob)
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To: bryan999

its about bring everyone down to the same pathetic level


22 posted on 08/10/2013 5:44:05 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: dps.inspect

yup,

You will never own your property thanks to a property tax. Like in old times you simply get the permission to use the land as long as you pay. You’re a serf.

Furthermore, the government as the only real owner of property also has the power to decide what shall be done with the property and based on her interests will push these rules.

True freedom begins with property rights, something that went lost during the civil war when a unified and comprehensive property tax system evolved.


23 posted on 08/10/2013 5:44:20 AM PDT by Red6
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To: bryan999

I moved out of St. Louis city because it is going to turn into Detroit eventually. Hell, some sections in the north already have.

I watched my boyhood neighborhood go “dark” and places I use to frequent are some of the most violent in the city.

I pay a large mortgage and HOA fees to keep free of the ferals. And now the POTUS wants to force me to live with them...


24 posted on 08/10/2013 5:44:29 AM PDT by Molon Labbie (Prep. Now. Live Healthy, take your Shooting Iron daily.)
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To: bryan999

So, in other words, disadvantaged people will be relocated to all of those repossessed properties held by the banks and the Feds. The majority of these homes are not near public transportation, but so what if poor folks are essentially stranded out in the ‘burbs?


25 posted on 08/10/2013 5:44:53 AM PDT by Darnright ("I don't trust liberals, I trust conservatives." - Lucius Annaeus Seneca)
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To: bryan999

We need to water that tree if we are going to regain limited government. The best way to water that tree is to punch holes into the wetware that favors expansive government.


26 posted on 08/10/2013 5:45:15 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: driftdiver; bryan999
its about bring everyone down to the same pathetic level

Not everybody!


27 posted on 08/10/2013 5:46:29 AM PDT by WVKayaker ("Our nation endures and our government... has not perished from the earth."-Sarah Palin 7/1/13)
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To: bryan999; cripplecreek; GraceG
Pop Quiz!

Who was the Ubama regime official who had lived in China and a huge crush on the Authoritarian Regime there because they can move people into their ghost cities.

I will give you a hint his last name starts with ogeltree...

They have always dreamed of something like this.

I remember the scene in the "Hunt for Red October" when Sam Neill is talking with Sean Connery about how one the greatest things about America is you could live anywhere you wanted and could travel anywhere in the country with Zero papers or documentation.

How far we have come since 1988.

28 posted on 08/10/2013 5:47:40 AM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: txrefugee

Too many black folks in New Orleans. Too many white folks in North Dakota. Forcible relocation would be comedy gold on the North Dakota end of the equation, at least until they started freezing to death along about late September.


29 posted on 08/10/2013 5:49:24 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Paladin2
our local projects actually have luxuries lacking in surrounding middle class neighborhoods

pool, bus service to schools, shopping and recreation, sidewalks, kids go to same schools, state of the art “homework tutoring centers” with donated computers and lots of volunteers

our newer constructed projects in Annapolis within blocks of the state govt offices are all-brick townhouses with hardwood floors, air conditioning, cable service, fenced patios with outdoor storage sheds, iron fencing, waterviews and multiple parking for each tenant, schools with enrichment programs

If poverty sucks it doesn't suck too bad there
Of course it may be hard to get in since once a welfare family gets in, they stay forever

So I am not sure what criteria HUD is going to use to find discrimination and issue reparations, unless they order the govt to provide all-brick facades, wood floors and central air conditioning to the nearby middle class suburbs

30 posted on 08/10/2013 5:49:44 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: bryan999

Let the Fed keep printing money and neighborhoods will integrate without any other government action.


31 posted on 08/10/2013 5:50:02 AM PDT by gotribe (Vladimir Putin is MY President)
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Too many of our minorities are trapped in blighted, high-crime neighborhoods solely because they can’t afford to live where conditions are better,”

Let me fix this.

Too many of our Communities become blighted high crime neighborhoods when HUD moves them in with section 8 housing.

What we are doing here is trying to blight more expensive communities. So instead of buying them Homes in the $200,000 dollar range we will be buying them McMansions in the $500,000 dollar range.

Welcome to the big leagues Leroy, bring yo criminal family and yo junk car on blocks and park it in the driveway of a $500,000 dollar home.

Oh!! and don’t bother to buy a lawn mower the rug rats will root up the grass in a couple of weeks.


32 posted on 08/10/2013 5:50:13 AM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: KC_Lion

I doubt they plan to integrate my neighborhood. They intend to integrate me into the hood.


33 posted on 08/10/2013 5:51:18 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: bryan999

Busing for grown ups!


34 posted on 08/10/2013 5:56:16 AM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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"It's not just having people of different colors live together just to do so," he says. "African-Americans and Latinos are more likely to live in segregated communities, that are predominantly lower income, have less strong public resources, less schools and educational opportunities, employment opportunities. This kind of integration strengthens economic equality."

And weakens the grip that the majority red states hold on conservative voting demographics. Zero looks at these conservative red state communities and is filled with a seething sense of rage. How DARE they vote that way???


35 posted on 08/10/2013 6:01:20 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: bryan999

I suggest he start with Martha’s Vineyard and Hollywood.


36 posted on 08/10/2013 6:01:57 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: EBH
“I’ll have those niggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years.” —Lyndon B. Johnson to two governors on Air Force One -

Looks like LBJ was right.

37 posted on 08/10/2013 6:02:23 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: animal172
I suspect it will work like this

anyone who rents will HAVE to accept Section 8 and voucher prices will skyrocket to cover welfare mamas moving their broods into tract mansions in the burbs

anyone who sells will be under severe HUD scrutiny to accept buyers of color, including govt agents who will buy houses to give away ("rent") to the folks

neighborhoods with an empty lot or vacant land will HAVE to build low income housing to get permits to do anything
then they will have to build playgrounds community centers provide grocery stores etc to serve the folks out in the burbs

neighborhoods will be forced to accept and pay for public transportation to serve their neighborhood

I believe past experiments have shown folks from the projects do not want to live in the middle of lily white burbs or out in cow country because it disconnects them from their culture. How much of their culture will be forced into the burbs and cow country remains to be seen but no doubt obama social planners have an active agenda to do so

but rest assured John Kerry, Bruce Springsteen, Michael Moore, Nan Pelosi, Upchuck Schumer, Warren Buffet, Hillary Clinton and barry/michelle obama etec etc etc- will never have section 8 in their neighborhoods

Bill and Hillary just rented a summer house in the Hamptons for $200K a month. Imagine the section 8 vouchers for that neighborhood

38 posted on 08/10/2013 6:03:00 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: bryan999
This is a fantastic idea!

I want to see them stick some section 8 housing ‘projects’ in the Hampton's, Malibu, Manhattan, Martha's Vineyard, etc.

Shoot, how about just making one floor of every fancy high-rise section 8 ?

I'll bet they could just mandate that under the “Equal Ghetto Housing Act”.

Too much fun. Please please please put me in charge of this project!

39 posted on 08/10/2013 6:20:33 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: COBOL2Java
And weakens the grip that the majority red states hold on conservative voting demographics. Zero looks at these conservative red state communities and is filled with a seething sense of rage. How DARE they vote that way???

Bingo! We have a winner...

Why win blue states/areas with huge majorities, and lose red areas with closer elections, let's just ship our excess blue voters where they are most "needed"...

40 posted on 08/10/2013 6:25:23 AM PDT by machman
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To: Paladin2

Are you referencing Detroit?


41 posted on 08/10/2013 6:26:46 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: machman

Beyond putting people who can’t afford to pay for a home in a home that they can’t afford. They also can’t afford the electricity to cool and heat the home. They will not be paying the correct amount of taxes like their neighbors, who bought their homes because they could afford them and the utilities to match.

Just as the high foreclosure rate decimated neighborhood home values, this will bring down home values and the equity people have built up as well.

If the homes have a pool count on them turning into mosquito breeding grounds when the new occupiers realize it could take another $250 a month to keep a pool running.


42 posted on 08/10/2013 6:30:23 AM PDT by BookaT
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To: bryan999
HUD estimates that compliance costs would range from $3 to $9 million each year

...more like $3 to $9 million each hour.
Picture this: "Hey, HUD! I make six figures a year; do you think you could find me a place to live among the projects? Maybe you could foot the bill by giving me tax credits?"
Yeah, right.

43 posted on 08/10/2013 6:52:58 AM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great -- until it happens to YOU..)
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said the rule hopes to better match up HUD-assisted housing with the communities that have good hospitals, schools and other assets.

Well, that leaves my neighborhood out. No hospital, decent schools but no other assets for the feral yutes to plunder. Not many minorities can afford a home here, especially the high property taxes.

This kind of integration strengthens economic equality."

Yeah, sure. Lower the home values and make all cities look like Detroit.

44 posted on 08/10/2013 6:54:25 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: RegulatorCountry
"racist"

I remembering arguing with my lib sisters forty years ago that forced integration was racist. The premise was that by making black students sit next to white students, their grades would rise substantially. That didn't happen. But the premise itself was racist. A black kid can't learn unless he or she is sitting next to a white person??!!! Tell me that's not racist.

45 posted on 08/10/2013 6:55:17 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: RegulatorCountry
do these people believe that “white” will rub off on the subsidized transplants, thereby improving them?

Actually, the Black will rub off on the existing residents, thereby dimishing them.

46 posted on 08/10/2013 6:55:46 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: bryan999
I'm still searching our Constitution to find exactly where the Feral government has the authority to do any of this.

I haven't found it yet, but I'll keep looking...

47 posted on 08/10/2013 7:07:47 AM PDT by Gritty (The real story of Detroit: private enterprise built it, government destroyed it!-Peter Schiff)
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To: driftless2

Ever heard of Dunbar High? Black kids are quite capable of academic achievement as a group, or have been before the advent of the pernicious attitudes toward schoolwork so prevalent today. Dunbar was a black high school, some very prominent grads, noted for being successful in numerous areas. The motivation to succeed is what is gone now for so many, along with a supportive home life. I supect learning styles and application of appropriate teaching methods had something to do with it too, though. We’ve got going on three generations that have been lost to productive society but the answer is always to spread the dysfunction, never to correct the actual problems. Dependency and ignorance are being cultivated.


48 posted on 08/10/2013 7:08:12 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: bryan999

Someone’s been watching too much Sci-Fi.

This is the same old “revitalize our cities” crap we’ve been fed for over 50 years.

Move the non-productive inner city trash out of the inner cities to the suburbs, so the productive, cool, leftist, elites can move in.

The producers can live where they work and will never have to leave the inner city for their wants or needs.

No one will need a car that can travel long distances. Everyone will use public transportation or electric cars.

Cities will become the liberals Utopia once the inner city trash is gone because everyone living in the inner city will be a peace loving leftist.

Instead of cities expanding in an attempt to increase tax revenue, cities will downsize and only the productive tax payers will live in the “city limits”, the trash that was moved out will become someone else’s problem.

As always there is a major flaw in the lefts thinking.

All of these peaceful unarmed leftist living in the inner cities will have surrounded themselves with savages looking for easy pickings and there wont be anyway out.


49 posted on 08/10/2013 7:13:03 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: bryan999

Block busting the good old fashion affirmative action way.


50 posted on 08/10/2013 7:14:16 AM PDT by Vaduz
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