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OH:Cleveland Police Refuse to Return Gun to Rightful Owner
opposingviews.com ^ | 10 August, 2013 | Dabney Bailey

Posted on 08/10/2013 2:10:31 PM PDT by marktwain

Derrick Washington of Cleveland, Ohio, is suing police for the return of his legally owned firearm. Washington alleges that the police seized the weapon from him illegally in a case for which he was never charged and have refused to return it since February.

Washington has filed a lawsuit in Cuyahoga County Common Pleas Court in order to get the gun returned along with tens of thousands of dollars in damages.

According to the lawsuit, Washington called the police in order to report a shooting. He later told police that he has a permit to carry a weapon. The police searched Washington’s car without his consent, seized his weapon because they believed he was a felon and threw him in jail for three days.

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"This happens all the time,'' said Kevin Jamison, another attorney. "Police know that these cases are often more expensive to take to court than the guns are worth. Most people find out how much it is going to cost to sue, and they give up. It's a really annoying habit. It provides work for me, but it is really offensive.''


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: banglist; constitution; guncontrol; legaltheft; leo; oh; secondamendment
A disgustingly common practice in the United States. Particularly common in urban areas and Democrat enclaves, it is being pushed out to all police and Sheriff departments as a way to prevent liability lawsuits. The idiotic "logic" is that if they refuse to return firearms until they obtain a court order to do so, they will not be held liable if the firearm is thereafter used in a crime.

I do not know of a single lawsuit that takes the above action, but I have seen lots of idiotic policies justified with some bogus claim of "liability" as cover.

1 posted on 08/10/2013 2:10:31 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Here is an example from Florida that is being taken to court by Florida Carry:

http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2013/05/combat-veteran-sues-over-gun.html


2 posted on 08/10/2013 2:12:29 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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Thieves


3 posted on 08/10/2013 2:25:15 PM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: marktwain

Cops = free guns.


4 posted on 08/10/2013 2:34:04 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: marktwain

Wondering how candles might be lit in this darkness.

Perhaps legal volunteers for firearm owner advocacy groups, generating forms that can ease the process of self-filing such lawsuits? They don’t necessarily have to ask for a kajillion dollars.


5 posted on 08/10/2013 2:38:12 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and mean it. See my page.)
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To: marktwain

The NRA should provide free legal counsel for qualified owners to get back their guns, with the punitive damages going to the NRA to fund the program.


6 posted on 08/10/2013 2:39:16 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Universal Background Check -> Registration -> Confiscation -> Oppression -> Extermination)
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To: Atlas Sneezed

Also a possible good idea. Kind of a civil rights tax.


7 posted on 08/10/2013 2:53:12 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and mean it. See my page.)
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To: marktwain; ADemocratNoMore; Akron Al; arbee4bush; agrace; ATOMIC_PUNK; Badeye; Bikers4Bush; ...

Ohio Ping


8 posted on 08/10/2013 2:55:58 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: marktwain

Cops are probably out shooting dogs and fawns with it right now.


9 posted on 08/10/2013 3:25:55 PM PDT by bikerman (Obama! if his lips are moving he's lying.)
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To: marktwain
The idiotic "logic" is that if they refuse to return firearms until they obtain a court order to do so, they will not be held liable if the firearm is thereafter used in a crime.

If that's logic, I'm a card-carrying communist. Those "police" departments need to lose lots of money in law suits. They may not understand the first thing in town about civil rights, but I'll bet they do understand money.

10 posted on 08/10/2013 3:26:47 PM PDT by Standing Wolf (No tyrant should ever be allowed to die of natural causes.)
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Where else can cops get guns to plant on bodies they have shot to death?.........


11 posted on 08/10/2013 3:29:07 PM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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To: Red Badger; All

“Where else can cops get guns to plant on bodies they have shot to death?.........”

Corrupt cops would likely not use a gun with a serial number in the system. I think they are more likely to use a knife, in these days.

I think the “throw down gun” is pretty much a thing of the past. Cannot swear to it though, and some older writers actually advocated the practice in an indirect fashion.


12 posted on 08/10/2013 3:49:03 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: marktwain

My Brother in law had a bunch of weapons confiscated unlawfully by Chicago Police. Judge ordered them returned. They stalled, stonewalled, delayed. Finally called him to the station to get em. When he arrived, they had COMPLETELY disassembled ever weapon and chucked them in a big cardboard box.


13 posted on 08/10/2013 4:00:30 PM PDT by Kozak ("Send them back your fierce defiance! Stamp upon the cursed alliance! To arms, to arms.....")
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To: Standing Wolf

They have already lost some money in lawsuits. Unfortunately, it is the taxpayer’s money, and some jurisdictions do not seem to care.


14 posted on 08/10/2013 4:29:39 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: marktwain
I think the “throw down gun” is pretty much a thing of the past.

I don't. There was a recent story that involved several LEOs caught on their own police cam trying to frame a lady for a motor vehicle accident that they caused. They're dirty.

15 posted on 08/10/2013 4:30:20 PM PDT by RC one
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To: marktwain

PIIIIIG Alert


16 posted on 08/10/2013 5:33:49 PM PDT by gotribe (Vladimir Putin is MY President)
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To: marktwain

i hope derrick gets his gun back and wins in court.


17 posted on 08/10/2013 5:43:06 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: marktwain

With a knife you don’t have to remember to take out some of the rounds and get the guy’s prints on them.


18 posted on 08/10/2013 8:03:13 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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“With a knife you don’t have to remember to take out some of the rounds and get the guy’s prints on them.”

I believe that I read on a police forum, that you do not hae to worry about a serial number on a knife, either.


19 posted on 08/10/2013 8:34:56 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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The police searched Washington’s car without his consent, seized his weapon because they believed he was a felon and threw him in jail for three days

Seems to me that Washington should be suing for false arrest, false imprisonment and violation of his Forth Amendment rights.

What evidence did the police have that he was a felon. On the contrary they had evidence that he was not a felon in that he had a CCW permit.

To me getting the firearm back is secondary to the fact that the man’s rights were flouted simply because he suggested that he had a firearm.

20 posted on 08/11/2013 4:53:18 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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