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The great experiment. Time for Cruz, King or Palin in 2016
Hot Air ^ | AUG 10,2013 | AZZ SHAW

Posted on 08/10/2013 4:31:09 PM PDT by Hojczyk

So what say we conduct the experiment that could – and I emphasize could here – finally settle the question once and for all. Let’s just nominate somebody who has welded on all three legs of the stool and leaves not a sliver of daylight for the squishiness question.

A nominee who will state without ambiguity that we’re going to bomb the crap out of anyone who is actively working against our interests. One who flatly proclaims that there will be no abortions for anyone and new Supreme Court justices will be inclined to overturn Roe v Wade.

They will solemnly aver that we will slash both taxes and spending in a serious fashion, consequences be damned, and that any money spent on immigration reform will go toward arresting and deporting illegals while massively strengthening the borders.

And if the only path available to deal with argumentative Democrats is to shut the government down, then By God they will personally be the one to turn out the lights as the last one out the door.

But who is left to fill the bill? As I indicated at the top – with apologies to any of your other favorites – we should narrow it down to people who have the name recognition to at least launch a viable campaign and have actively indicated at least some interest in running. Sounds like Ted Cruz or Peter King to me. And, yes, let’s toss in Sarah Palin who is far from past her prime and has never entirely ruled out the possibility, while clearly meeting all of the criteria above.

We tried it one way in 2008 and 2012, and it’s only fair to give the other side a chance to walk the walk, so let’s get everyone from both sides

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Alaska; US: New York; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: alaska; cruz; ira; king; newyork; palin; peterking; sarahpalin; tedcruz; texas
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1 posted on 08/10/2013 4:31:09 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

We need a pre-primary for conservative candidates and run one in the primary against the RINO..


2 posted on 08/10/2013 4:32:22 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

I don’t know who Peter King is. He would have to get famous quick.


3 posted on 08/10/2013 4:34:09 PM PDT by married21
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To: Hojczyk

I don’t think Cruz or Palin will run but I’d be fine with Steve King.


4 posted on 08/10/2013 4:35:04 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: married21

Pete King is a very famous RINO.


5 posted on 08/10/2013 4:36:52 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

King should never be mentioned in the same breath with Cruz and/or Palin.

Except for contrast.

Both Kings are rinos.


6 posted on 08/10/2013 4:41:24 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: married21

Peter King is a representative from New York. Need I say more.


7 posted on 08/10/2013 4:43:43 PM PDT by NoKoolAidforMe (I'm clinging to my God and my guns. You can keep the change.)
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To: old curmudgeon

That’s OK I’ll be sure to vote for Steve King anyway.


8 posted on 08/10/2013 4:44:05 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Hojczyk

Angus King is an independent commie
Peter King is a neo-statist RINO
Steve King - one of our House good guys :)


9 posted on 08/10/2013 4:45:05 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: NoKoolAidforMe
I've called Pete King "Bubble boy" ever since the Giffords shooting when he was first to call for laws protecting congressmen from their constituents.

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10 posted on 08/10/2013 4:46:42 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Hojczyk
Nope.

Gary Johnson.

11 posted on 08/10/2013 4:46:56 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: Hojczyk

With 90% of the media in the tank for the democrats and the democrats expertise in massive election fraud there are great odds against a republican president being elected anytime before the Apocalypse.

The success the media and liberals had in demonizing Sarah Palin has probably eliminated her as a viable candidate.

And they will do the same to all other conservative candidates they percieve to be a threat to their domination of the government.


12 posted on 08/10/2013 4:48:14 PM PDT by Iron Munro (They Old. That's Old School People. We In A New School, Our Generation)
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To: Hojczyk
Of those three?

Palin, please.

13 posted on 08/10/2013 4:48:53 PM PDT by Salman
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To: cripplecreek; All

That’s what I was thinking, cripplecreek. I bet it’s an error.

My conspiritard side (after all the funny stuff last year) says we need to put fail safes *in place now/ ASAP* to insure that our votes- in the primaries *and the elections* are counted properly next year & in 2016.

I just hope we don’t have to fight our own side next time.
Cruz for me, please!


14 posted on 08/10/2013 4:50:03 PM PDT by KGeorge (Till we're together again, Gypsy girl. May 28, 1998- June 3, 2013)
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To: married21

I’m starting to think this Jazz Shaw guy is a bit of a dope. Peter King is well known in the NYC metro area, he is a R congressman from Long Island. He’s reasonably right wing, but he is thought of by many to be a RINO. To me he is most memorable as being quite a squish on the IRA (Irish Republican Army) a group who managed to hide from many of their stateside supporters that they were another COMMUNIST outfit. At least I think they hid it, maybe people here did know that. I’d like to think Congressman King knew it, at any rate.

Some commentors over at Hot Air seem to think Shaw’s confused Peter King with Steven King. Which would be kind of a stupid mistake.

However, I believe Peter King has floated the idea of running for Pres. But by no estimate is he a “hard core” conservative so this is a bit confusing.


15 posted on 08/10/2013 4:50:52 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: Hojczyk

Personally I think we’ll see a resurgence of the Tea
Party and that Mrs. Palin will run this time.
She’s smarter than she looks and that is awesome.
The GOPE has no claim on my vote.

Palin 2016.


16 posted on 08/10/2013 4:51:18 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: cripplecreek

So you like his position on illegals?


17 posted on 08/10/2013 4:52:18 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: jocon307

And it’s even stranger, since Steve King has refused to run for even a senate seat. I wish the author would clarify if he really is referring to Pete King and didn’t get confused.


18 posted on 08/10/2013 4:58:23 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Hojczyk

Palin is VP candidate; the only way the media won’t tear her apart. If she goes all in and doesn’t care, even against the Republican establishment, then perhaps Presidential nomination. Any of the candidates we want, Carson/Palin/West/Walker/Cruz and a few others will be torn down by media-Democrap-Rino machine...I agree with Rush yesterday (Friday 8-9s show) where he said screw the NBC/CNN crowd and not have any primaries on those channels as they only will tear down such candidates making them unpalatable by the time the general election is at hand...


19 posted on 08/10/2013 4:58:52 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (“To learn who rules over you, simply find out whom you are not allowed to criticize.” ~ Voltaire)
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To: CincyRichieRich

there’s more than one way to skin a liberal cat....and I’m willing to try all options.

now where did I leave my buzz saw?


20 posted on 08/10/2013 5:01:34 PM PDT by Kolath
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To: elkfersupper
Gary Johnson.

+1

21 posted on 08/10/2013 5:06:25 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: cripplecreek

I apologize.

Somehow I got the idea that Steve King was just a tad to right of Peter King on immigration.

Since my earlier post, I ran a google on Steve King immigration and was reminded of his comments which I had forgot.

OK, he would be a good candidate.


22 posted on 08/10/2013 5:15:02 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: Hojczyk

I love Palin, and find her philosophy and belief system to be a near mirror image of mine. I think she would make a terrific leader. My concern is that she is too sullied based on past attempts to take the media on while being a bit unprepared, at the time, to do so. I don’t know that her image can recover enough to attract the borderline RINO vote at the polls that we would need to get a candidate elected. If she runs, I’ll be in her camp and will work harder than I ever have in an attempt to get her elected.


23 posted on 08/10/2013 5:16:26 PM PDT by RobertClark (My shrink just killed himself - he blamed me in his note!)
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To: RobertClark

bump

She’s a bit too tolerant with McCain and some others for my tastes though.

heh


24 posted on 08/10/2013 5:17:32 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: cripplecreek

just saw a big article somewhere (don’t remember where I saw it) pointing out that King is a full on RINO. Listed some of the reasons why too. I think it was on FR though and was with a video. I do like Cruz and Palin though.


25 posted on 08/10/2013 5:18:11 PM PDT by fish hawk (no tyrant can remain in power without the consent and cooperation of his victims.)
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To: old curmudgeon

No problem, I get the two confused in name plenty myself.

Steve King isn’t perfect but he’s certainly in the top 10%.


26 posted on 08/10/2013 5:18:28 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: GeronL

Paul


27 posted on 08/10/2013 5:19:13 PM PDT by citizen (We get the government we choose. America either voted for Obama or handed it to him by not voting.)
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To: RobertClark

We don’t need a retread.


28 posted on 08/10/2013 5:20:56 PM PDT by citizen (We get the government we choose. America either voted for Obama or handed it to him by not voting.)
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To: citizen

nah, too libertarian


29 posted on 08/10/2013 5:21:39 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: citizen

I’m in with Paul.


30 posted on 08/10/2013 5:24:11 PM PDT by Principled
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To: Hojczyk

Hillary would annihilate all three of them combined.

They’re all minor league.

It’s Hillary versus Jeb Bush, with the Big Money giving another Bush time as the figurehead in front of the television cameras.

Bet on it. I was really, really correct last time.


31 posted on 08/10/2013 5:31:55 PM PDT by warchild9
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To: GeronL

Paul is young for sure. But quick-witted, well spoken, attractive in ways McVain never could be and conservative enough for now. It’s way too soon to be picking a candidate but talk is cheap :)


32 posted on 08/10/2013 5:33:57 PM PDT by citizen (We get the government we choose. America either voted for Obama or handed it to him by not voting.)
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To: Hojczyk

It’ll have to be 3rd party. No way in the GOP.


33 posted on 08/10/2013 5:36:38 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Hojczyk

Anything but more big government fascism and socialism. Anyone that can reasonably roll back the obama socialist tide has my vote.


34 posted on 08/10/2013 5:37:25 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Hojczyk

Why do we have to kiss the ring of the GOP? This is a free country, if citizens want to get together in any venue to listen to the people that they believe in then what is the GOP or media to do about it. Let them go suck their thumbs. Who needs them.

The GOP deserves a lot of disrespect. There is no reason why Tea Party people, 9/12 people and other conservative groups cannot get together all over the country in auditoriums, public parks, county fairs, churches or any other venues to discuss the important issues with lots of interaction from the audience—a real town meeting.

All McCain people, Bush people and Grover Norquist people or establishment corporatists cannot join. Out with the old guard.


35 posted on 08/10/2013 6:13:50 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: citizen

We have plenty of time to start discussions of what the issues should be and we can start sweeping out some of the old cobwebs of faux conservatism that have bedeviled us in the past.

This would be real grassroots politics. No media around, no politcal machines or political machinations.


36 posted on 08/10/2013 6:17:18 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: Hojczyk

Over the RINO’s dead bodies . . . OK, if they insist.


37 posted on 08/10/2013 6:19:40 PM PDT by YHAOS
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To: CincyRichieRich
Palin is VP candidate

Palin will never be a VP candidate for a second time. There is no reason for her to wish to endure the slanders and calumnies of the left for a second national election without having the top spot on the ticket.

38 posted on 08/10/2013 6:21:00 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Army dad. And damned proud.)
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To: warchild9

Count on Jeb to run full out to the left, right out of the gate. Enough to make up with the Left all those votes he’s going to lose on the Right, the conservative base, who will really be prepared this time to leave the Party.

Personally speaking, without a party of conservative values, there is but one party now and will be in ‘16 apparently, and it isn’t mine.


39 posted on 08/10/2013 6:23:47 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Where are the leaders among all these marvelous conservatives who talk it but won’t walk it. There is no future in the existing Republican Party for conservatives, yet the talkers are cashing in while leading us no where really. Certainly they are putting out nothing to prepare a third party for us in ‘16. What does that tell us?

The clock is running out.


40 posted on 08/10/2013 6:32:46 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Hojczyk
I love Sarah Palin, but her running is just about the dumbest idea I have seen...

The libtards did a magnificent job of demonizing her, marginalizing her, smearing her character, mocking her, libeling her to ever be a serious candidate again...

John McStain did a great job of defending her /S

41 posted on 08/10/2013 6:35:46 PM PDT by Popman
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To: Hojczyk

If the King be Peter....no way Jose
If he should be Steve...right on, right on, right on.

Sarah...I’m by her, behind her, and for her.

Cruz...Glory glory, be still my heart. We need this man in the worst way.

The list of NOs is much longer than the list of ‘approved’s There are many blank lines to be filled and still looking and searching for those who might be able to do so. Chaffetz?,
Gowdy? Know nothing about them and would need to know more.
Working thru issues with Rand Paul. Can’t be 100 percent certain of him.

Just MHO


42 posted on 08/10/2013 6:52:11 PM PDT by V K Lee
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To: Hojczyk

You lost me at Peter King. He’s a weathervane. By my observations, he often points in whichever direction the political winds happen to be blowing on any given day. Early on, I was thrilled and encouraged by some stout positions he seemed be occupying; and some short time later I’d hear him pop off about something 180° out of phase from it. After a number of those WTF moments I woke up and smelled the coffee. He’s just another weathervane politician! /JMHO


43 posted on 08/10/2013 7:47:35 PM PDT by Tucker39
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To: RitaOK

There’s always been only one party.

The only difference between candidates is who’s doing the bribing.

Even then, the bribes are shared equally between the two sides...anonymously, now that Citizen’s United made it all legal.

The head of the National Association of Lobbyists was asked on C-SPAN “What was the difference between bribery and lobbying?” He smiled that nervous smile of the “trapped,” and answered: “There’s rules for lobbying.”

I laughed out loud.


44 posted on 08/10/2013 7:52:54 PM PDT by warchild9
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To: Iron Munro
The success the media and liberals had in demonizing Sarah Palin has probably eliminated her as a viable candidate.

Every time I see that meme repeated by a conservative, it reminds me of how successful the left is at steering our thinking patterns.

After everything the left has thrown at Palin in the last five years, she's barely got a scratch on her, but to hear some conservatives tell it, she's finished. Many of them say the same thing about the country, the Tea Party, and the patriotic right.

Not a word of it is any truer than the myth of man made global warming, but that doesn't seem to matter. Despite the fact that we're still in the majority in this country, we're supposed to all bow our heads in defeat and kiss our country good-bye.

Makes me want to punch something.

45 posted on 08/10/2013 8:03:51 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Hojczyk

Pete King is a RINO.


46 posted on 08/10/2013 8:04:37 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: cripplecreek

King is one of the better New York Republicans, but just about every Republican in New York this side of Carl Paladino is a RINO to some degree or the other.


47 posted on 08/10/2013 8:05:48 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: warchild9
It’s Hillary versus Jeb Bush... Bet on it.

If that's what the next presidential election comes down to, I'm out of it completely.

48 posted on 08/10/2013 8:07:27 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: tet68
She’s smarter than she looks


49 posted on 08/10/2013 8:12:34 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: tet68
She’s smarter than she looks


50 posted on 08/10/2013 8:14:18 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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