Skip to comments.The Crusades Reconsidered
Posted on 08/11/2013 6:48:56 AM PDT by NCjim
One of the idiocies passed off for decades among Western historians is bemoaning the Crusades as evil. The Islamic world -- the Ummah -- has disseminated this imaginary charge against the West, and like fools, we have absorbed Arab lies and taken the blame to heart. But the most superficial reading of Western history should put that canard to rest.
Shortly before he died in June 632 AD, Mohammed ordered Muslims to prepare to wage war against the Eastern Roman (Byzantine) Empire.
Upon his death, Mohammed's successor, Abu Bakr, planned to fulfill those instructions. Plans were also made to conquer Zoroastrian Sassanid Persia.
This vainglorious troop of bandits should have been easily dispatched,
However. Persia and Byzantine Rome had just come out of a savagely vicious war which ended in 628 AD. Emperor Heraclius had finally imposed the total defeat over Persia that had eluded the earlier Roman Republic and the Caesars -- but Byzantine Rome, though victorious, was severely mauled. Persia was reduced to a state of anarchy; and forced to pay indemnities to Constantinople.
The Persian and Eastern Roman empires were attacked almost simultaneously around 633 AD, while both were still licking their wounds. So frightening were the Islamic advances that these former blood enemies made a sadly futile alliance. By 644, Persia fell anyway.
By 634 AD, Byzantine Palestine and Syria were being attacked. The Battle of Yarmouk in August 636 AD would see Eastern Roman forces beaten. Emperor Heraclius, the victorious warrior, a mere 8 years earlier, would have to sneak out back to Constantinople in a boat.
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"Sadly, a second cause is an ancillary residue of historiography which has a tradition of exaggerating the real crimes of Catholicism out of all proportion. The Spanish call this exaggeration the Black Legend of the Inquisition; and it results in a pseudo-acquittal of Islam, by blaming the Crusades on Catholicism."
-——Black Legend of the Inquisition———
The truth exceeded in villany only by the coverup of the infiltration of queers and pedos in the modern church
I am no historian by any means , but Muslims appear to be a fairly peaceful people as long as there are not too many of them.
A new Crusade to lower their numbers would lead to a more peaceful world.
Well, somewhat...when they're not beating their wives or genitally mutilating, raping, or honor-killing their daughters.
Or looking up in the Koran good justifiable reasons to kill their fellow man.
Abe Baker, I'll have to remember that name.
Thank you for this article.
It’s become more pronounced since 9-11-2001. In order to justify the attack, IMO.
The sad part...?
“One may condemn the atrocities of the Crusaders, but what infuriates the objective student of history is that the far greater crimes of Islam are ignored.”
...nothing has changed.
Thank you, NCjim, for the article.
My wife and I were out yesterday visiting various rug stores. As is very often the case, a number of these retailers were run by folks of ME “descent”. It actually made my skin crawl...made me nervous to be there.
Irrational feelings? Maybe.
Rational and prudent feelings? Probably.
Too bad Mohammed wasn’t buried with a silver spike driven through his heart.
Vampires and their followers are hard to kill.
Memoirs of Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds (Vol. 2)
From that volume:
published in 1852
I presume that you mean "We're" as in "We are", right?
Contraction cop mode /off
As long as we’re correcting the lies told about the crusades.
Let’s also correct the lies told about Genghis Khan. Genghis Khan did not destroy and pillage like I was always told. The Khan wanted a large empire for commerce. His armies conquered cities and changed governments. He allowed the citizens to keep their businesses, religion and freedoms, he just wanted trade. The only exceptions were Islamic cities. These gave him so many problems that his only course of action was to raze them to the ground. He could not negotiate with them and could not allow them to exist as they were a danger to everyone around them. The Khan did not destroy Christian, Hindu or even Pagan cities, just Islamic.
Yes We Are Not Done Yet
I see the crusades as a kind of peremptory action by the west. The Saracens were causing a lot of trouble in the Mediterranean basin and beyond in those days. The west decided the best thing to do was to take the fight to them.
Doesn't anyone study or know history anymore, or do they just listen to and believe everything they hear and read from the agenda-driven "news" media?
I say we should announce a new Crusade to rid the earth of the filthy radical mooselimb bent on destroying and subjugating the West. And really do it.
Somewhere on the Interwebs, there is an interesting analysis that correlates Muslim actions in a country with the percentage penetration of Islam in that country. It can be summed up as "the more there are, the more belligerent they become."
Islam always was, is now and always will be, a vicious evil predatory plague on civilization. Offering nothing of value, it takes or destroys everything. It needs to be extirpated and its adherents converted or confined to the de4sert wastes which spawned them.
We need to start with arming the Copts so they can defend themselves. Then add western countries special forces to the mix to help train.
Finally we need American missionaries who were former American military to travel through African continent and assist Christian nations with rebuilding the Church and the faith.
Raise pigs for food. That in and of itself will keep the religious fanatics away, hence they are killed and their rotting corpses encased in pig entrails.
If we don’t strike back, pretty soon it will be the commies on one side, the Muzzies on the other side and America and Israel caught in the middle. Put a traitor in the oval office with fanatical ties to both and we are doomed.
I did not know it had a name, but the Spanish and the Catholic Church have been condemned by the moderns over their method of rooting out fake Christians while successfully prosecuting a guerilla war with the Muslims, a war that lasted over 400 years.
The moral of that story should be: when you fight that cancer, make sure you have air, land, sea, space, and intel superiority.
The current administration is making a huge strategic mistake with regard to the “War on Terra” by using NSA developed tools against domestic political opponents, thereby revealing those capabilities to the Muslim world.
“Fairly peaceful people”- with a ‘submit or die’ philosophy? That’s like saying Nazism is a fairly peaceful ideology as long as there is no SS. In Islam EVERYONE is the SS- it’s just that not all squads are activated yet.
We’ve got to get rid of this idea that Islam is ‘peaceful’ in its core. It is not. The Koran is a rulebook for war, death and world domination. To insist that there is ‘goodness’ to reach at the core of Islam is to volunteer to be the next Daniel Pearl.
Well the good news is that they are lot dumber than they were in 632 due to over 14 centuries of marrying their first cousins. The second crusade should be a little easier. :-)
It’s this sort of bigotry that has made FR a laughingstock all over the internet.
Or hi-jacking airplanes and flying them into office buildings or strapping on suicide-bomb vests and walking into a school, bus or crowded restaurant.
IF WE HAD ONLY FINISHED THE CRUSADES WITHOUT TREATY.
Well, I was responding to when they "appear to be peaceful".
The bad news is that we as a Nation wont even admit that we NEED a Second Crusade!!
Wait until a few of the ones Barky is letting in from Palestine and Syria blow themselves up at the food court in the Mall. I think you will see a mini crusade at that point.
You mean the bigotry of refusing to be "tolerant of the intolerant"?
“Its this sort of bigotry that has made FR a laughingstock all over the internet.”
It’s your sort of political blindness that has made the USA a laughingstock all around the Dar-el-Islam.
America doesnt seem prepared to wage a Crusade against “no_limit_niggas” at this point so Im not certain tha anything would inspire her to defend herself from islamic THUGS.
I pray that Im wrong!
Why would you even associate yourself with such bigotry and a laughing stock?
There are a lot of other sites.
Perhaps by comparison to other eras and regions of conquest, maybe they were, but it was hardly a "Golden Age"! At no known time were the non-Muslims not subject to second-class status and increased taxation. Mass deportations and executions met most efforts to equalize the status of non-Muslims. While the Taifa rulers (local princes) were frequently weak and thus inclined to a "let live" religious and social tolerance, the relatively frequent waves of Muslim fundamentalism caused significant periods of intolerance and bloody repression in the 750 year period of Islamic Spain.
People tend to forget this period as explanation of why reconquered Christian Spain was so steeled in doctrine and orthodoxy and felt the need to expel Muslims, Jews and later Protestants as dangerous to what they had labored to reclaim. Remember that, even now, proponents of the "Islamic Caliphate" claim all of Spain and Portugal as part of Islam under the doctrine of once conquered, never given up.
We are witnessing the convergence of The Left, The Muzzies and the Global Fascists against the Christians and Jews.
The problem in the US is the media is owned by The Left. Academia is owned by The Left. And they have invaded the management of some of the major Corporations.
At 19 my father was packing an M1 across Germany, Belgium and Checz. Now there are here in our face. He and I talk about this almost daily. He will soon be 88 and he still knows the enemy.
See Post #24 some do not agree, and say we are bigots.
The Crusaders were pretty much constantly divided against each other, almost from the very beginning. They never had the numbers to maintain their power and it was pretty miraculous that they held on for the 200 years that they did.
Kind of like the Libertarians and Conservatives of the Republican party.
They had mercy on muslims in the end and that is something that many generations have learned does not work and never will. The only contract satan wants is one for your soul and it is signed in blood.
Disproportionalism seems to be a common malady of western historians
“...but xxx appear to be a fairly peaceful people as long as there are not too many of them.”
Now, doesn’t that apply to so many different groups, even in our own country.
“but do we remember that Islamic predation that was the real agent which caused the Dark Ages.”
Good article, but I find that statement to be a bit of a stretch. I think plague was the main causes of the Dark Ages. Plus, a portion of the Dark Ages were literally dark because of a large volcanic eruption.
“The moral of that story should be: when you fight that cancer, make sure you have air, land, sea, space, and intel superiority.”
You really do not need intel when when wiping out every last gene of these subhumans. Turn it all, and I mean ALL, to dust.
What Islam Isnt
By Dr. Peter Hammond
FrontPageMagazine. com | Monday, April 21, 2008
Interesting point. Reference? I would like to know more...
Had it not been for the Black Plague we'd probably all be Mongols now (and I don't meet motorcycle-riders!)