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The Myth of the Mexican Work Ethic
American Thinker ^ | 08/11/2013 | Jeremy Egerer

Posted on 08/11/2013 7:55:26 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

There are two kinds of men that this article will necessarily offend. The first, and most obvious, is the kind of man who honestly believes in an exceptional Mexican work ethic -- the man who attempts to befriend or utilize the Mexican population to prove himself not to be a racist, to acquire their votes, or to unfairly associate himself with qualities belonging to others.

But the second kind of man, in my opinion, deserves to be offended far more than the rest, for, hoping to find an essay about the laziness of Mexicans, what he is actually going to find is an essay about the foolishness of white Americans.

Being half-Hispanic, I have always heard, since as far back as I can remember, that Mexicans have a superior work ethic -- that they move quickly, and do much, and complain never. I do not necessarily debate these claims concerning the migrant laborer, but if I were to assert that these characteristics belonged to Mexicans as a whole, I believe I would do both Mexicans and Americans a disfavor.

In a sense, the claim is correct: Mexicans can be said to do the jobs avoided by whites, for less pay, and at a faster pace. Anyone at least remotely familiar with agricultural labor knows that whites largely avoid it, and that they avoid it because it is too difficult for the pay given. If we begin with this premise, that the pay is not enough to attract white people into this brand of heavy labor, we begin with a very sensible observation: that what is preferable to one man is not preferable to another.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: mexicans; mexico; workethic
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1 posted on 08/11/2013 7:55:27 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

How did the Mexican Mafia get started?.


2 posted on 08/11/2013 8:06:28 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: SeekAndFind

I have seen Mexican roofers roof a large house in one day that took white roofers a week and a half on a similar house. They worked from sunup to sundown, not 10 to 4:30.

The best house cleaners I have ever had were Mexican too.


3 posted on 08/11/2013 8:09:22 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: SeekAndFind

Excellent piece¡ Nobody can understand the history of Mexico without understanding the history of their final indigenous rulers, the Aztecs. The Aztecs were cruel, ruthless and brutal. They built their civilisation on slave labor, superior organization and military power.


4 posted on 08/11/2013 8:10:34 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: SeekAndFind

More and more agricultural machinery is replacing hand labor.


5 posted on 08/11/2013 8:15:21 AM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: SkyDancer

What about HOUSE labor?


6 posted on 08/11/2013 8:17:25 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: yldstrk

I guess the Mexicans would have made better slaves than the Blacks.


7 posted on 08/11/2013 8:18:35 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Democrats: Robbing Peter to buy Paul's vote.)
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To: SeekAndFind
From the article:

...I have met one truly exceptional Mexican worker in my entire life, a man who personally trained me to work hard and be proud of doing so. To him, I mean no insult: he and all others like him are deserving of honor. But if we call his ethic Mexican, and not personal, I believe we rob him of his glory and grant it to others unfairly...

The author is calling BS to the so-called Mexican Work Ethic.

8 posted on 08/11/2013 8:20:10 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Producing Talk Show Prep since 1998.)
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To: Cowboy Bob

I don’t think anybody makes a good slave, you work best when it is something you want to do


9 posted on 08/11/2013 8:21:21 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk
I roofed on a house with 3 mexican workers once. In the amount of time it took me to lay down 9.66 square of shingles the three mexicans layed down 17.5 together. I have also been on jobs where the mexicans worked just as fast and hard as I.

I have also done vineyard working right along side of mexican workers that were slower than I and some that were faster than I.

I have no problem working long hours as well. My wife once yelled at me that I was working to many hours because I worked 129 hour that week. The next week was better at 126 hours.

Point is that mexican workers are just like you and I. Some will work hard and some won’t. Just a fact of life.

10 posted on 08/11/2013 8:21:32 AM PDT by jimpick
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To: SeekAndFind

Usually the theme is: “Who’s going to pick your fruits and veggies” since white folks don’t like doing farm labor.


11 posted on 08/11/2013 8:25:26 AM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I guess we could ask the people in the hotel industry who works better...native-born Americans or Hispanic or Mexican immigrants and/or citizens? Because no matter where we go in the U.S., it seems the great majority of people who clean the rooms are Hispanics. It seems, without having any direct proof, that most of them appear to be of Mexican or Latin American origins. I would think most of them are either American citizens or here legally. But I rarely see lily-white, European-looking people cleaning the rooms in most of the places we stay at on our trips. Even in northern climes.


12 posted on 08/11/2013 8:30:17 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: SeekAndFind

Here I’ll say it. As a rule (and OF COURSE there are exceptions) - Mexicans work harder, faster then whites who work harder faster than blacks. Call me a raciss - I don’t care - facts is facts.


13 posted on 08/11/2013 8:33:00 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: SeekAndFind

I think it’s terrible to stereotype a ethnic class of people. I teach my kids not to do it, and I try to correct coworkers around the water cooler every chance I get when they slip and utter some ridiculous slur.

Having said that, Why did the Mexican Army have only 600 men at the Alamo?


14 posted on 08/11/2013 8:36:34 AM PDT by nikos1121 (“To err is human; to forgive, divine.” Alexander Pope (1688-1744) English poet)
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To: SeekAndFind

They only had two cars.


15 posted on 08/11/2013 8:37:20 AM PDT by nikos1121 (“To err is human; to forgive, divine.” Alexander Pope (1688-1744) English poet)
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To: SkyDancer

White people don’t do those jobs because they are eligible for welfare / unemployment. Illegals come from countries that don’t have welfare programs so they have to work.

White people would do those jobs if we got rid of welfare.

Also, illegals will stop doing those jobs when they become eligible for welfare.

Those jobs will then be done by another group of immigrants who are not yet eligible for welfare.


16 posted on 08/11/2013 8:46:03 AM PDT by willyd (I for one welcome our NSA overlords)
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To: nikos1121

Having said that, Why did the Mexican Army have only 600 men at the Alamo?


Why did the Mexicans within the Alamo’s walls have so few?


17 posted on 08/11/2013 8:46:04 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: laplata

why?


18 posted on 08/11/2013 8:47:27 AM PDT by nikos1121 (“To err is human; to forgive, divine.” Alexander Pope (1688-1744) English poet)
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To: yldstrk

I must have seen that same roofing crew.

On a high peak roof with one guy sliding the shingles down to the install guy with a nailgun.

Like he was dealing cards in a casino...unreal.


19 posted on 08/11/2013 8:50:48 AM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: willyd

Bingo!

Most people (regardless of their origins) don’t have much of a work ethic now. Why should they when non-workers have the same the lifestyle on welfare?

Not everyone is driven to succeed. If they have food, shelter, a little spending money, and a lot of free time, that’s enough for a lot of people.


20 posted on 08/11/2013 8:55:34 AM PDT by Gingersnap
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To: yldstrk

One of our family friends back home, a canadian, had an electronics warehouse in Compton CA that supplied Best Buy and Target. he’s now retired and one thing stuck to him for years in experience:

the mexicans are damn hard workers who will work for a sandwich, while the blacks are the laziest people he’s come across.

The bad thing about mexicans he’s noticed is that mexicans love free stuff and they want you to speak their language.


21 posted on 08/11/2013 8:55:54 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: nikos1121

About 600 Mexican troops were killed in the battle. Their total number was around 1800.

Most of the defenders were Mexican citizens-Tejanos.

Reinforcements that were expected never arrived so they had to do with only about 189.


22 posted on 08/11/2013 8:59:51 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: laplata

Is there a joke here somewhere? AS I think you may have missed mine... :-)


23 posted on 08/11/2013 9:02:34 AM PDT by nikos1121 (“To err is human; to forgive, divine.” Alexander Pope (1688-1744) English poet)
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To: laplata

Are you serious that most of the defenders of the Alamo were Mexican Citizens?


24 posted on 08/11/2013 9:09:44 AM PDT by nikos1121 (“To err is human; to forgive, divine.” Alexander Pope (1688-1744) English poet)
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To: SeekAndFind

There is also another hyposisis that bears fruit....

As in all immigrant class, the ones that come here are the most industroius and hard working of their ethnicity.....

They are the ones that want to work to better themselves
and their family.....They don’t care what it takes to do that.....

They have less options than legal workers and must be work agressive to accomplish their goal....

Granted they may not be skilled or literate....but they have desire....


25 posted on 08/11/2013 9:11:50 AM PDT by nevergore
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To: yldstrk

I sold roofing for a while, the Mexicans were very good but the very best I saw were from Robeson and Scotland counties in North Carolina and they were of mixed ancestry with fifty percent or more Lumbee or Cherokee indian background. They could strip an old roof down to bare wood while I was deciding where was the best place to stand to watch them. They ran two nail guns on a section of roof with one man at the ridge pulling shingles from the wrapper and dealing them like cards to the two nailers as fast as he could go, back and forth from one nailer to the other. A nailer would finish one shingle and just reach out a hand and catch the next shingle as it slid to him. One of the strippers told me that the man he used to work for on his last job insisted that one stripper had to put a hundred squares of old roofing to the ground in eight hours to keep his job. The guy could do that with ease, he would start at the peak and work with TWO “D-handle” forks, one in each hand and walk down the roof to the eave, then back up to the peak and come down again. I timed him once and he put six squares on the ground in twenty minutes flat. I figured that if I had tried it I would have wound up on the ground in less than twenty seconds.

The best looking chimney flashings were done by a black man, his work was all good but he really excelled at flashings. They looked almost too perfect to have been done with hand tools.


26 posted on 08/11/2013 9:17:28 AM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: SeekAndFind

The author mentions being “Hispanic”. In my personal experience, indigenous Mexicans are very hard working. Hispanic Mexicans (with Spanish heritage) not so much. I worked in Spain and Mexico, and the Hispanics in both counties do not have a work ethic that working-class Americans would respect.


27 posted on 08/11/2013 9:27:12 AM PDT by Deek
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To: nikos1121

Sorry, now I see your joke. Thanks.


28 posted on 08/11/2013 9:29:09 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: RipSawyer

That is booking. Best I ever did was 18 square off and new back on in 11 hours. Including clean up.

Best straight laying was 31 square in 10 hours.

All by myself with no help both times.


29 posted on 08/11/2013 9:30:12 AM PDT by jimpick
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To: nikos1121

Yes, many became Mexican citizens before the battle. They settled in Texas which was Mexican territory and called themselves “Tejanos”.


30 posted on 08/11/2013 9:31:18 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: nikos1121
The people who came from the US to Texas became Mexican citizens, Texas belong to Mexico. My grandfather born in 1870 in north Texas referred to those early settlers as the “old Texians”.

Many people call them Texicans with a “c” but that came from a John Wayne movie.

31 posted on 08/11/2013 9:42:40 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: laplata

That’s what happens when you get out of the Truck.


32 posted on 08/11/2013 9:43:48 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (They can follow the Communist, I'll follow the Constitution...)
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To: Vigilanteman; Cowboy Bob

As a blue collar worker-by choice-of Mexican/Latino ancestry, I found this-”such a difference exists between the American citizen of Mexican heritage and the desperate refugee laborer” to be a definitive statement.

One of the first things the Spanish military did upon arrival was to enslave the Native American/Indian population, and mate with quite a few of the women, beginning the Mestizo ethnic group nearly all of us new world Latinos belong to. So about one half of my ancestors enslaved the other half from the gitgo, and created a really conflicted ethnic group.

To answer Cowboy Bob, Natives/Indians did not make the best slaves, by all historical accounts-they had already been indentured by the Aztecs for awhile, and used their fall to get the hell out of Dodge, if they could, or got killed for their defiance. Those ever-resourceful Spaniards promptly bought Black slaves to do the work, starting with the Caribbean islands, and creating another conflicted, racially mixed ethnic group. Hey, at least they were consistent...

By the 1700’s, my known family had moved into what is now south/southwest Texas, along with a lot of others of Basque-and-Native ancestry-family tradition says Basques had no liking for being close to the strict caste system and harshness of the Spanish government-so they got far away to do their own thing, ranching in a remote place like they still do. So my family and I are no different from any other American whose ancestors came here to get away from oppressive rulers a few centuries ago, and have been working, supporting families and serving in the military ever since. A high percentage of all Hispanics/Latinos choose military careers...

The illegal immigrant is not someone a person of Mexican ancestry like myself can relate to at all, other than to recognize that they have committed a criminal act by sneaking over here and likely didn’t come “just to work”-like the author says, there is a vast difference between them and the native-born of us...


33 posted on 08/11/2013 9:45:18 AM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Fail. There is a Mexican work ethic. There is a Protestant work ethic. Yes, blacks commit more violent crimes in this country than whites.

The author is saying we should not make generalized statements. That is not a conservative viewpoint but a politically correct one.

Stating that Mexicans have a strong work ethic does not deprive a hard working Mexican of his honor, nor unfairly honor lazy ones. Saying the black community has problems with fatherlessness and laziness and criminal activity does not mean that all blacks have these problems.

Americans are spreading violence and perversion around the globe, too. It does not mean all Americans support this.


34 posted on 08/11/2013 9:48:15 AM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: laplata; Ditter; nikos1121

My ancestors fought with the other Texicans-the family has been in what is now South Texas since the late 1700’s, and had no love for dictators in either Mexico or Spain...


35 posted on 08/11/2013 9:51:24 AM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Texan5

That’s awesome. You have a lot to be proud of.


36 posted on 08/11/2013 9:54:49 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: laplata

We are-but only one who fought came back-the others died in various battles and skirmishes-good thing it is a big family.

The military is still the most favored first career choice, though.


37 posted on 08/11/2013 10:09:55 AM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: SkyDancer

““Who’s going to pick your fruits and veggies” since white folks don’t like doing farm labor.”

Eliminate welfare, food stamps, and free medical and there will be whites lined up to take “those” jobs!

As far as I’m concerned, make your own way in life or lie down and die!


38 posted on 08/11/2013 10:29:37 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: SeekAndFind

The Mexican “PEON” mentality.. is alive and well and established in Mexican culture.. Even Peons can have Peons..

Although the word means roughly “indentured servitude”.. there are degrees and variations of it... among the Mexican masses.. Many look on the word as an honor.. or even a badge in the collective HIVE...

What has a “PEON” to do with electing a givernment?.. Good Question..
Thats why Mexico has never had or ever will have an actual government.. Some MOB has always run Mexico and still does presently... Which is quite OK with the PEONS... Democracy seems logical to Mexicans (Mob Rule by mobsters)..

If you think the democrats and Obamnoids do not KNOW THAT you’re crazy.. It’s ONLY the republicans that do not know that.. Two types of Mexicans 1) PEONS and 2) Banditos.. you’’re one or the other.. OR BOTH..

They make very good democrats.. it’s the same with ALL democrats..
It’s the rare Mexican that knows what democracy “IS” and “ISN’T”..


Democracy is the road to socialism. -Karl Marx

Democracy is indispensable to socialism.
The goal of socialism is communism. -V.I. Lenin

The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism .-Karl Marx


39 posted on 08/11/2013 10:41:07 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: yldstrk

If you employ illegals you’re a big part of the problem.


40 posted on 08/11/2013 10:41:18 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: unlearner

Yeah. What you said.


41 posted on 08/11/2013 10:50:50 AM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (No I'm just being a punk.)
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To: yldstrk
I have seen Mexican roofers roof a large house in one day that took white roofers a week and a half on a similar house. They worked from sunup to sundown, not 10 to 4:30. The best house cleaners I have ever had were Mexican too.

By all means then move to Mexico.

42 posted on 08/11/2013 10:52:59 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: willyd
23% of the agricultural work for is American(white). Someone didm;t tell them they aren't supposed to be working like that.


43 posted on 08/11/2013 10:57:05 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: yldstrk

One reason that Mexico is so grubby and unfinished, is because of the Mexican work ethic, what until recently was always known as the “manana” attitude.

Until PC took over, Mexico was always rightfully known as a nation of lazy and indifferent people.


44 posted on 08/11/2013 11:13:18 AM PDT by ansel12 ( The difference between libertarianism and conservatism is radical social leftism, not economics)
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To: central_va

folk off


45 posted on 08/11/2013 11:37:24 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

You hypocrites think these “hard” woking Mexicans are great running around on your roof with a hammer, but let one of them try to date your teenage daughter...


46 posted on 08/11/2013 11:43:45 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Excuse me?


47 posted on 08/11/2013 11:53:14 AM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: jimpick

Sounds like you were pretty fast, I can do the job myself but I have never done enough to develop any speed at all. My father was an old time carpenter, born 100 years ago this coming November four. He could do it all from the sill to the roof and build custom cabinets in the kitchen. He could nail on four squares an hour with a hammer. He could make a hammer sound like a nail gun. He actually preferred driving nailes overhead to driving them in flooring and I could never figure that out, trying to hammer straight over my head is nearly impossible for me. I can lift a weight over my head but I can’t get enough speed on a hammer to drive a tack over my head. I guess that’s why I took up electromechanical repair rather than carpentry.


48 posted on 08/11/2013 12:10:43 PM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: RipSawyer

I will go a long way to avoid roofing work-not because I’m averse to it, but I’m afraid of heights-climbing a ladder higher than 6-8 ft. gives me vertigo...


49 posted on 08/11/2013 12:17:31 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: central_va

I am not a hypocrite, you moron, I am stating that I watched the Mexicans roof my neighbors’ house in record time. I have also had my house cleaned by Mexicans way better than anyone else (I also had a really slow one who was Mexican too).

Do I think people should come in legally to the US? Hell yes. now go take a long walk off a short pier, you are ridiculous


50 posted on 08/11/2013 12:36:54 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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