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Fukushima's Radioactive Water Leak: What You Should Know
National Geographic ^ | 7 August, 2013 | Patrick J. Kiger

Posted on 08/11/2013 8:50:30 AM PDT by Errant

Tensions are rising in Japan over radioactive water leaking into the Pacific Ocean from Japan's crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant, a breach that has defied the plant operator's effort to gain control.

Prime Minister Shinzo Abe on Wednesday called the matter “an urgent issue” and ordered the government to step in and help in the clean-up, following an admission by Tokyo Electric Power Company that water is seeping past an underground barrier it attempted to create in the soil. The head of a Nuclear Regulatory Authority task force told Reuters the situation was an "emergency."

(Excerpt) Read more at news.nationalgeographic.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Japan; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: daiichi; energy; food; fukushima; nuclearplant; nuclearpower; radiation; watersupply
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"3 years for contamination to reach U.S. coast from Fukushima, scientist estimates"

If you can't trust National Geographic, who can you trust?

1 posted on 08/11/2013 8:50:32 AM PDT by Errant
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To: Errant

So. I’m guessing the prudent thing to do is stop all that exotic Sushi crap. Maybe think more about inland farm bred salmon over the ‘wild caught’ stuff. Forget tuna, forget albacore from the pacific.. All those other Hawaii mahi mahi (sp)...I dunno...

If it don’t get hushed up, it’s gonna be one big ecological freakshow for the Greenies - or will it [what’s gonna be in it for them, now?]


2 posted on 08/11/2013 8:54:29 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Errant
Godzilla will be attacking Japan soon !!!
3 posted on 08/11/2013 8:54:55 AM PDT by celmak
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To: Errant

How many Nuclear submarines have been sunk by accident with operating nuclear reactors.With the number of subs that have gone down I don’t see a reason to panic.

How much radiation is being emitted by those reactors is a wild guess but governments have’nt been worrying much.


4 posted on 08/11/2013 8:56:09 AM PDT by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: celmak

History shows again and again how nature points out the folly of man.


5 posted on 08/11/2013 8:56:36 AM PDT by dfwgator
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Considering that quite a lot of tsunami flotsam is already here, I would suspect that some of the radiation is, as well. Is our fleet catching radioactive tuna this season?


6 posted on 08/11/2013 8:56:38 AM PDT by Rio
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To: Gaffer

For me, it’s north Atlantic and southern hemisphere salmon. ;)


7 posted on 08/11/2013 8:56:57 AM PDT by Errant
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To: Gaffer

>>Maybe think more about...

Aquaponics

http://www.foodpatriots.com/farmedhere-aquaponics-system/

http://foodmachine.org/how-it-works/


8 posted on 08/11/2013 8:57:33 AM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: Rio
Considering that quite a lot of tsunami flotsam is already here, I would suspect that some of the radiation is, as well. Is our fleet catching radioactive tuna this season?


9 posted on 08/11/2013 8:57:57 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Errant

One day soon, this will all approach a “there’s mercury in fish” level...


10 posted on 08/11/2013 8:59:44 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Errant
Errant~:" For me, it’s north Atlantic and southern hemisphere salmon. ;)"

All the more reason to push for elgislation for all foods to be labeled with "Country of Origin"

11 posted on 08/11/2013 9:00:29 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt ((Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison))
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To: TArcher

I’m sure thinking that anything wild caught off the west coast will be eschewed. Good luck Seattle Fish Market....


12 posted on 08/11/2013 9:01:02 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

elgislation = legislation >br>
Not enough coffee reached the fingers yet !


13 posted on 08/11/2013 9:01:45 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt ((Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison))
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To: Errant

Russians regularly dump radio water in sands where it gets dissipated. It would be more dangerous as an aerosol like Chernobyle, imo.

If anything distribute tablets of KI .... WHICH THE FRENCH PUBLIC SOCIALIST HEALTH SYSTEM REFUSED TO DO OUT OF INTERNATIONAL DEFERENCE TO THE SOVIETS (AND PREVENTED) MAKING COUNTLESS MILLIONS SICK CUZ THEY DID NOT WANT TO GIVE CREDIT TO US’s SUPPLYING IT TO GERMANS, DESTROYING US MISSION.

... one of the many health scandal/murders of the so called french obamacare (hemophiliac aids scandal and the heat wave are two others, which refused to cooperate with US screening and refrigeration contractors.


14 posted on 08/11/2013 9:02:32 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: puppypusher
How many Nuclear submarines have been sunk by accident with operating nuclear reactors.

Eight: List of sunken nuclear submarines

Not all of them were operating. At least 2 were shut down, but not defueled.

15 posted on 08/11/2013 9:03:56 AM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: Errant
I seriously doubt it will come anywhere close to the amounts Russian dumped directly into the oceans. Russian Ocean Dumping
16 posted on 08/11/2013 9:05:24 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (sue the DNC for the IRS abuse! Can RICO laws be used against the DNC?)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
All the more reason to push for elgislation for all foods to be labeled with "Country of Origin"

I refuse to purchase any meat that isn't so labeled. The problem though, are they telling the truth. Maybe we just need to strengthen the laws concerning false advertisement. That could be done on state levels with mandatory prison sentences.

17 posted on 08/11/2013 9:07:51 AM PDT by Errant
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To: Gaffer

Adapt or die.


18 posted on 08/11/2013 9:09:25 AM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Hope you’re right, and that they find a way to contain it ASAP...


19 posted on 08/11/2013 9:11:01 AM PDT by Errant
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To: justlurking

That’s a lot of nuclear material sitting on the ocean floor.


20 posted on 08/11/2013 9:12:57 AM PDT by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: Gaffer

so is it safe to buy and eat canned tuna and salmon now?....I’ve got a supply, most of it from just before the tsunami in Japan, but I’ve been buying newer stuff lately....


21 posted on 08/11/2013 9:13:53 AM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry

Heck, I don’t know.. I was just thinking where I could get a very sensitive Geiger counter for a good price.


22 posted on 08/11/2013 9:15:00 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: cherry

I have a canned stash, too. Most all before the troubles, but it will go out of date soon...


23 posted on 08/11/2013 9:16:03 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: dfwgator

...nature?...


24 posted on 08/11/2013 9:16:19 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Errant

Correct. Anytime I see natgeo quoted as being the source, I immediately know without a doubt that it must be true. NOT! While they may have some pretty nice photos, they’re no better than the “earth island” and green peace clowns. I guess I’ll just have to keep trusting in king hussein. LOL!


25 posted on 08/11/2013 9:17:35 AM PDT by rktman (Inergalactic background checks? King hussein you're first up.)
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To: puppypusher
That’s a lot of nuclear material sitting on the ocean floor.

Yes, but this reactor accident is dumping a lot more into the ocean. It's just diluted by water.

Read the article: it compares the amount of radioactive cesium released by the bomb over Hiroshima to the amount initially released immediately after the earthquake.

26 posted on 08/11/2013 9:21:09 AM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: Gaffer
One day soon, this will all approach a “there’s mercury in fish” level...

That's a big issue here in the South with lake caught fish. They recommend pregnant women to eat no more than about once per month, IIRC.


27 posted on 08/11/2013 9:22:35 AM PDT by Errant
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To: Errant

I don’t see crappies on this list.


28 posted on 08/11/2013 9:28:07 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: Gaffer
I was just thinking where I could get a very sensitive Geiger counter for a good price.

You can build your own using an arduino board and about $150 in a detector and other parts that is equal to those costing upwards to $800, that will detect Gamma, Beta, and even Alpha rays/particles.

29 posted on 08/11/2013 9:29:49 AM PDT by Errant
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

White Perch


30 posted on 08/11/2013 9:30:10 AM PDT by Errant
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To: Errant

Turn on the Geiger counter and you will needlessly scare yourself. You will discover everything is radioactive. Radon is seeping from the ground. Your milk has measurable amounts of radioactive calcium. Even the bones if your sleeping partner are radioactive.


31 posted on 08/11/2013 9:32:38 AM PDT by Procyon (Decentralize, degovernmentalize, deregulate, demonopolize, decredentialize, disentitle.)
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To: puppypusher

Russian open dumping in the Arctic

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CCoQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.princeton.edu%2F~ota%2Fdisk1%2F1995%2F9504%2F950405.PDF&ei=F7sHUpqgMJS4yAHRlYBI&usg=AFQjCNFmMS0gZEMy3G3UZWxPZx8lpCLnnw


32 posted on 08/11/2013 9:33:24 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: Errant

Last I heard plant and animal life were flourishing around Chernobyl.


33 posted on 08/11/2013 9:35:36 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: Errant
‘twould be hard to find a source of radioactivity here at Lake of the Ozarks.
I suppose any thing’s possible.

We also have stocked striper bass and walleye in our lake, plus high bred “wiper.”

But nothing beats a mess of crappy fillets, some potato salad and cold adult beverages of your choice.

34 posted on 08/11/2013 9:36:31 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: celmak
Godzilla will be attacking Japan soon !!

Or even worse: Phantom from 10,000 Leagues

35 posted on 08/11/2013 9:37:45 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Procyon

Agree, but one might prove a critical item to have in case of serious contamination from whatever (my biggest concern - use of unconventional weapons).


36 posted on 08/11/2013 9:38:13 AM PDT by Errant
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To: Errant

Your bottle of Evian water is allowed to have 300 becquerels. That is every second, 300 neutrons decay. Yes the pool water at Fukishima exceeds this rate but no one is expected to drink it right out of the pool. It flows into the ocean where it is diluted. How many bottles of Evian would it take to fill the Pacific Ocean? By the way Fukushima is allowed to emit 22 trillion becquerels a year before exceeding safe levels. Typical green alarmism.


37 posted on 08/11/2013 9:41:42 AM PDT by Procyon (Decentralize, degovernmentalize, deregulate, demonopolize, decredentialize, disentitle.)
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To: Errant
If one were aware of how many nuclear bombs were set off ALL OVER THE WORLD before the testing ban, one would wonder why the entire surface of the planet doesn't glow at night.

It's even more interesting to see it in a graphic form.

This takes a while to watch and is slow to really get POPPING, but after you watch it, you won't have the same 'view' of these isolated and rare events like Fukishima any more.

A Time-Lapse Map of Every Nuclear Explosion Since 1945 -

38 posted on 08/11/2013 9:44:23 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Errant
Misleading information. The fresh water fish you catch is dependent on the minerals and pollutants of the lake bottom or river system. Oregon fishing regulations book has PCB & Hg & other contamination listed by type of fish and the location from where they are caught.
39 posted on 08/11/2013 9:47:01 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: Errant

Thanks


40 posted on 08/11/2013 9:47:24 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
They are good! I still remember the day my dad caught a 2-3/4 pounder that was 17" long when I was a kid. My favorite though, is pan fried bluegill large enough to fillet. I like most all fish, and there are tricks to making almost any tasty.

Water here in the south is too warm for northern fish, but we do have strippers in Toledo Bend caught close to 50 lbs. Not very good eating though, IMO.

41 posted on 08/11/2013 9:47:46 AM PDT by Errant
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To: Cold Heart

Yep, each lake is different, and here, each lake has a sign with recommendations. The chart was all I could find on the subject.


42 posted on 08/11/2013 9:49:15 AM PDT by Errant
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To: The Duke
You should see the video of the chick on a crotch-rocket making a trip to Chernobyl. Very interesting. I don't have a link, but if you search Youtube, you might find it.

And I just read about some radioactive hogs (presumably from Chernobyl) turning up in Italy, of all places.

43 posted on 08/11/2013 9:52:20 AM PDT by Errant
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To: puppypusher

Just a teensy bit of difference between being buried in often hundreds or thousands of fathoms of water with small reactors versus large commercial-grade reactors on the surface with debris.

It won’t poison the whole world but will do harm to locals.


44 posted on 08/11/2013 9:54:20 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Procyon

Yeah, I agree that is nothing, but on the other hand you see reports where the levels are thousands of times higher. Part of the problem is the great variations and confusion. I miss the days of trusted and accurate news from the main stream media and scientific publications. It tends to make one believe the false information is being released is for a purpose.


45 posted on 08/11/2013 9:57:58 AM PDT by Errant
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To: Errant

Thanks, but my first question is what government organization made this chart? I’d like to see a clearer picture of it.


46 posted on 08/11/2013 9:59:52 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

Are you talking about the mercury chart? It’s from some state DNR - not sure which. Each state is going to be different, and even each lake in a particular state will be different from others. It will give you some idea though of the seriousness, and how different types of fish have different levels of contamination - primarily based on how long they live and what they eat.


47 posted on 08/11/2013 10:03:40 AM PDT by Errant
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To: Errant

From what I read in the Japanese language press they will either be building a higher seawall (by September) and/or more effectively pumping out the contamination to a below legal standard before it reaches shore.


48 posted on 08/11/2013 10:06:00 AM PDT by erlayman
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To: Gaffer

It all eventually seeps into the soil and remains somewhat harmless. I live in Tokyo. I know physics. I studied radioactive contamination. I’m not worried.


49 posted on 08/11/2013 10:07:37 AM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.g)
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To: Errant
The days of trusted and accurate news are indeed pretty much gone. But that is why we have Free Republic, lots of experts to jump in, even if you misspell :)
50 posted on 08/11/2013 10:09:12 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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