Posted on 08/11/2013 11:27:37 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
On July 18, President Obama held an event at the White House to promote Obamacare. It was Calculated Deception writ large, which is Obama’s rhetorical style of taking advantage of what he shrewdly calculates the great majority of average Americans will not know, and what he is certain the so-called mainstream media will not tell them. That smacks of third world style, authoritarian propaganda.
Obama falsely claimed, “In states like California, Oregon, Washington, new competition, new choices, market forces are pushing costs down.” I have already discussed in prior posts the misrepresentation regarding proposed premiums for 2014 on the California Obamacare Exchange, drawing on the cutting edge work of Avik Roy of the Manhattan Institute. The official press releases issued by the Exchange compared proposed premiums for individual health insurance in 2014 with health premiums for small business health insurance in 2013 to argue that Obamacare will not increase premiums after all in California. Saying that is like comparing apples to oranges is not even adequate. It is more like comparing prices of new Harley Davidson motorcycles next year to prices of new small buses and limousines bought by transportation companies this year, or dump trucks bought this year by small construction firms.
If the Democrat Party run California Exchange wanted to be honest, it would compare proposed premiums for individual health insurance in 2014 on the California Exchange with premiums currently paid for individual health insurance in California in 2013. When Avik Roy did that, he found, “For both 25-year-olds and 40-year-olds, then, Californians under Obamacare who buy insurance for themselves will see their insurance premiums double.” It can be much worse than that under Obamacare next year.
Independent analysis also found that the proposed Obamacare individual health insurance premiums in Oregon for 2014 are 66% higher...
(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...
The answer is yes, so long as they retain the right to sodomize goats. And have someone else pay for it.
..and it’s difficult to overcome his propagandist media, who pounds his lies down our throats as truth.
YES, because low information voters are really really stupid!
Freegards
LEX
Each year the middle class and poor must vote for whoever is in power to promise and deliver an exemption to pay for their healthcare, with the state picking up the tab for them. Each year their exemption or subsidy will hinge on last minute crisis pitting the enemy as those elected who would rather kill them and push grandma off the cliff.
These people make Tony Soprano and Somalian warlords look tame. The sickening part is that the USSC with John Benedict Roberts knew just this.
The thing is low infromation voters are cheap and want everything handed to them. Those that get subsidies because they’re poor will probably sign up. Healthy young people will not sign up if it’s more expensive than is the penalty.
It’s a RICO conceived healthcare protection racket run by Chicago syndicate tactics. It’s complete with an exemption for all those who have a voice or spot at the table to be heard over it’s horrors. Unions, government workers, politicians, illegal immigrants, cretain minorities, followers of Islam, and anyone who works for Amazon.
Not going along would mean they would have to concede their own initial failings in judgment and warped worldview. Don’t bet a large sum on it, Mr. Thompson.
Okay, I finished the article. We need MORE articles like this that touch upon 0bama’s LIV-pandering BS, like on The Tonight Show when he said the “THERE IS NO SPYING ON AMERICANS” by the NSA. Let’s hope he keeps this up, because more LIV’s will wake up. Obvious LIV-pandering that backfired. Keep it up, 0bamugabe.
Who cares what they think?
The reason we are where we are today is the belief that posting on a website will fix the nation.
We and our kids deserve what’s coming.
We are the weakest generation.
Uggggh! SocioEconomic FASCISM has its costs.
Has anyone ever mentioned the possibility of using the Sherman Antitrust Laws on the government itself??
After all, the gov’t is now instituting an unfair MONOPOLY on health care.
That would be a great battle to watch in the Supreme Court. Oh well, perhaps Justice Roberts would be again strong-armed (or be threatened by Chicago thugs and Traybamabots) into voting against liberty.
As long as the "news" media keep covering for King Zero and printing the DNC talking points as news stories.
Too many people are too lazy to and uneducated (the goal of the NEA) to know what's at stake. This makes the Dems power control grab that much easier - it's all they're interested in: power.
Democrats do not really believe in democracy. For a real democracy to work the people must all be well-informed, definitely a no-no if all you desire is power and control over others.
Nope.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romulus_and_Remus
What incentive (or ability) do they have to produce anything more than increased suction on one or more of their state-sponsored she-wolf's Capitoline teats?
Most of those people don’t have a clue as to what is really going on.
No lie is too big for Obama to tell when it comes to his ‘signature’ piece of economic destruction.
Yes.
Obamacare should be almost fully “ripe” by Nov 2014.
But then again I said no way Obama could win with 8% unemployment, $4 gas, and surging food prices.
Peter Ferrara ping
Indeed, the “Sherman Antitrust Act” WOULD forbid Obamacare:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherman_Antitrust_Act
...”The law attempts to prevent the artificial raising of prices by restriction of trade or supply.[6] In other words, innocent monopoly, or monopoly achieved solely by merit, is perfectly legal, but acts by a monopolist to artificially preserve his status, or nefarious dealings to create a monopoly, are not.
Put another way, it has sometimes been said that the purpose of the Sherman Act is not to protect competitors, but rather to protect competition and the competitive landscape. “
Section 1:
“Every contract, combination in the form of trust or otherwise, or conspiracy, in restraint of trade or commerce among the several States, or with foreign nations, is declared to be illegal.”[14]
Section 2:
“Every person who shall monopolize, or attempt to monopolize, or combine or conspire with any other person or persons, to monopolize any part of the trade or commerce among the several States, or with foreign nations, shall be deemed guilty of a felony [. . . ]”[15]
Subsequent legislation expanding its scope
The Clayton Antitrust Act, passed in 1914, proscribes certain additional activities that had been discovered to fall outside the scope of the Sherman Antitrust Act. For example, the Clayton Act added certain practices to the list of impermissible activities:
price discrimination between different purchasers, if such discrimination tends to create a monopoly
exclusive dealing agreements
tying arrangements
mergers and acquisitions that substantially reduce market competition.
I figure that they are so stupid that they probably won’t sign up because they have no clue that they have to or else pay a fine.
Of course they will. He is what they want. They elected him twice.
As FReeper Lou L wrote: Shows the mess Ohaha created, and why the WH apparatchiks cannot make it work more than three years after its passage.
Each "box" represents huge organizational beauracracies with people stumbling over themselves; each "arrow" represents hundreds and thousands of information requests and transfers. Those interfaces will have some common calls, but they'll have to be customized to fit each carrier's system and customizations. It seems as though a lot is being left off the "health plan" -- all the costs, all the restrictions, have to be passed along as well.
The thousands of "Navigators"---govt-issue clerks--will offer you "guidance/" And that online calculator...does it tell you how much you're being soaked now, rather than before the saving grace of O'care?=======================================================
Amazingly the lower Rube Goldberg chart is supposed to "simplify and explain" O'care......designed by a consultant group paid to assist in the process of getting states to create exchanges (the ones that interface with 60,000 IRS agents, the strong-arm HHS, and an assortment of know-nothing snoopy federal agencies).
“Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.”
Sure, a great proportion of democrat voters are dumber than a bag of hammers...They’ll vote “D” regardless...
Some people vote “D” because they know better, and that their open-ness about that vote really irks people they know who vote “R”, and even “I”...
Somehow the process of being politically informed these days is lost on most of the people of voting age in this country...Even the attention span of people who vote Republican is very short, and even though I see those results as a positive, I tend to wish that people would be more engaged in their politics from the local all the way up to the national issues...
Being a knee-jerk reactionary in politics is working to the advantage of the liberals, whose message is resonating more with the people with shorter attention spans than those of who pay attention, read between the lines and hold ALL politicians feet to the fire, regardless of their political affiliations...
When a politician sees me coming and their reaction is, “OH [expletive deleted], here comes Steve!”
That’s exactly the reasction I want out of them!!!
And for balance I do go out of my way to find good things to bring to their attention as well...
The figures of Romulus and Remus aren't even original .... they were added by Michelangelo. The original figurines were (it is thought) of two men, of two different leading Roman clans, shaking hands (amicitia, "Don Corleone, be my friend") underneath the she-wolf.
She's real, and original, though. I saw her in 1982 .... complete with lightning-damage commented on by Cicero when the wolf was struck in the Forum one night. (That was big stuff for augurs and haruspices back then.)
Hey, that sounds great! What could go wrong?
Another sap-happy liberal idea.
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