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Latest bills could make California toughest state on gun control [ No rifles with detachable mags ]
Fox News ^ | 8-11-13 | FNS

Posted on 08/11/2013 12:33:33 PM PDT by NoLibZone

A spate of gun-control bills could put California in the lead when it comes to restricting firearms.

According to the San Jose Mercury News, the gun-control bills, which include proposals to ban a wide range of semi-automatic rifles and strict new regulations on ammunition, could reignite the national debate that erupted after a gunman killed 20 children and six adults at a Newtown, Conn., elementary school last year.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; california; guncontrol; guns; secondamendment
For the lazy who believe posting is the answer:

Mock all you want but can you name one culture war defeat that hasn't first started in the DNC owned state?

1 posted on 08/11/2013 12:33:33 PM PDT by NoLibZone
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To: NoLibZone
This is clearly unconstitutional. Fortunately, Chief Justice Roberts will . . . um . . . never mind.

Failing the Constitution, we can go further back in time:

Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security . . .

2 posted on 08/11/2013 12:38:28 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: NoLibZone
Roe v. Wade, portion of the introduction:
This Texas federal appeal and its Georgia companion, Doe v. Bolton, post, p. 179, present constitutional challenges to state criminal abortion legislation. The Texas statutes under attack here are typical of those that have been in effect in many States for approximately a century.

3 posted on 08/11/2013 12:39:36 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: NoLibZone
Across the country, we are rolling back the attacks on the 2nd Amendment. I don't think California is a bell-weather for things to come for the country as a whole on this issue.

/johnny

4 posted on 08/11/2013 12:40:09 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: NoLibZone

bump


5 posted on 08/11/2013 12:42:12 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: NoLibZone

How many people there were shot with rifles vs handguns?


6 posted on 08/11/2013 12:50:54 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: NoLibZone

I fond it difficult to believe that of all the things won in regards to the 2A (CCW in 50 states etc), that CA is actually a canary in the coal mine this time.

There are violent people in this nation, and I just do not see all of the soccer moms who just bought their first gun and CCW giving up this right easily. I could be wrong, but I believe and hope this sort of nonsense will be isolated to the loony left states, until SCOTUS deems to strike it down.


7 posted on 08/11/2013 12:52:40 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: NoLibZone

So much evil in California that it’s become the majority. Must not give good people the ability to defend against it.


8 posted on 08/11/2013 12:55:37 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (Thy Kingdom come!)
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To: NoLibZone

Take any two gun crime cases in California. One, a law abiding citizen using a firearm illegally to protect and defend themselves against bad guys. Take another, a criminal using a firearm to rob or murder. Which one will get more time?

The guy who pays his taxes, works for a living, and has never broken the law.


9 posted on 08/11/2013 12:58:30 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (Thy Kingdom come!)
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To: Dogbert41

Can you give us an example, or is this just something you believe to be true with nothing to back it up?


10 posted on 08/11/2013 1:08:54 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: NoLibZone

Belt-fed it is then.


11 posted on 08/11/2013 1:19:41 PM PDT by GreyHoundSailor
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To: GreyHoundSailor

I like your sense of humor. I was thinking of a non-magazine rifle I own (unless it was lost in the Great Boating Accident or 2012, when my canoe rammed 3,000 others on Lake Superior), but your answer is better.


12 posted on 08/11/2013 1:49:10 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Pollster1

Intended to include this pic of a beautiful tube-fed lever action.

13 posted on 08/11/2013 1:50:09 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: NoLibZone

I am not a lawyer so can somebody tell me how California can get away with gun control measures that have been overturned in other states based on a SCOTUS ruling?


14 posted on 08/11/2013 1:51:28 PM PDT by Cyman
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To: NoLibZone

Perfect timing. The idiots are also discussing releasing 10K criminals from prison in the state.


15 posted on 08/11/2013 2:05:06 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: NoLibZone

And to think, for years they said they ONLY wanted to control handguns! Rifles and shotguns would not be affected!


16 posted on 08/11/2013 2:06:12 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: GreyHoundSailor
Belt-fed it is then.

Thank you, GreyHoundSailor! I needed that.

17 posted on 08/11/2013 2:20:27 PM PDT by Standing Wolf (No tyrant should ever be allowed to die of natural causes.)
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To: Cyman
It's a trap for the grabbers. You know how progressives always start asking for a lot more than they really want so that later on they can appear to "compromise" and be "bipartisan"?

California gun owners have learned from that. No one goes before their committees anymore to tell them what's wrong with the bill. If you post a critique of the bills faults on Calguns it will disappear quickly. As with most things liberal their overreach is their undoing. California gun owners want the laws passed with problems intact.

California gun owners have learned a couple of other lessons from liberals as well; venue shopping and good plaintiff selection. The liberals are very happy to forget what happened to AB 692 two years ago but the same fate awaits most of these bills as well if they pass. The law will go before a judge in one of the solid red areas of California (far and away most of the state), just before it is supposed to take effect, it will promptly be declared unconstitutional and then it will be forgotten about.

Most of these liberals came of age when they hand awards out for just showing up and they'll crow to their SF/LA constituents about the law they passed and never mention it was subsequently thrown out. Or else they'll trumpet how the "gun lobby" or the NRA went after their law and how they need to be reelected to stand up to them. It's just so much liberal Kabuki theater.

18 posted on 08/11/2013 2:51:43 PM PDT by atomic_dog
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To: Pollster1

In grade school I had ‘The Rifleman’ lunchbox. Nowadays, most kids don’t even know what a lunchbox is, and one like mine would get you kicked out of school.


19 posted on 08/11/2013 2:58:48 PM PDT by GreyHoundSailor
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To: NoLibZone

Belt-fed weapons don’t have magazines. Just sayin’.


20 posted on 08/11/2013 3:58:33 PM PDT by dinodino
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To: NoLibZone
My CA Legal AR-15 uses a “tool”, a Bullet Button to eject the 10 Round Magazine. Again, it was “CA LEGAL” when I purchased it.

I gave up my AK-47 Assault Weapon (LOL) when I decided that I didn't like being on the Assault Weapons Owner Registration List. The upside being I made a whole bunch of money when I sold it, but that is the only upside.

Yes, I made the mistake of Registering it when the Ban went through, (not wanting to become an overnight Felon), and I am just as ashamed of that decision as I was for Voting Perot in 1992 when I wasn't really paying attention to Politics.

Needless to say, Compliance with Tyranny is not an option.
Screw the Bolsheviks in Sacramento. MOLON LABE.

21 posted on 08/11/2013 4:12:51 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (They can follow the Communist, I'll follow the Constitution...)
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To: Cyman; All
“I am not a lawyer so can somebody tell me how California can get away with gun control measures that have been overturned in other states based on a SCOTUS ruling?”

That is an easy one. Those laws have not yet been appealed to the 9th Circuit, and if the 9th Circuit thinks they pass muster, to the Supreme Court.

For that to happen, someone has to be affected by the law, found to have standing, and then appeal it.

That process should not take more than 5-10 years, max.

22 posted on 08/11/2013 5:54:19 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: NoLibZone
California requires two drinking fountains in every gun store.

The ruling class (LEO) fountain offers a satisfying stream of fresh water and the fountain I am forced to drink from dribbles out tainted garden hose water.

In a free society, we should all be able to drink from the LEO fountain.
23 posted on 08/11/2013 5:57:04 PM PDT by TauntedTiger (Keep away from the fence!)
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To: SoCal Pubbie
http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/ci_23480831/cops-and-courts-june-18-2013-gang-member

In that blotter, 43-year-old gang-banger caught with dope, expired liscnense, sharpened screw driver, brass knuckles, 1911, and priors. Bail set at $25K. Next, a 54-year-old man was arrested outside a grocery store with a .25 cal handgun in his back pocket. They found a rifle in his car. Bail set at $25K. That's just the very first freaking page in a Google search. Any more freaking questions???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

24 posted on 08/11/2013 6:05:15 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (Thy Kingdom come!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

They are the most populous state, and where a large portion of the elite come from or live (part time).

It is a bell weather. If this passes, expect similar laws on the east coast and in Illinois.


25 posted on 08/11/2013 6:11:05 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: NoLibZone

26 posted on 08/11/2013 7:24:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: Dogbert41

Well, the example you cited shows that two people arrested for similar gun violations got the same bail. Cali’s pretty screwed up in a lot of ways, I don’t see where the otherwise law abiding citizen got more time. Did I miss something? Is that a freaking question?


27 posted on 08/11/2013 8:12:26 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Pollster1

Hm I never knew he was a lefty....

28 posted on 08/11/2013 8:25:09 PM PDT by China Clipper ( Animals? Sure I like animals. See? There's one there, right next to the potatoes!)
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To: China Clipper

Fun fact: He wasn’t a lefty. Chuck Conners was ambidextrous and shot exceptionally well with either hand.


29 posted on 08/12/2013 3:42:29 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Pollster1
Fun fact: He wasn’t a lefty. Chuck Conners was ambidextrous and shot exceptionally well with either hand.

Now THAT'S cool!

30 posted on 08/12/2013 8:11:34 PM PDT by China Clipper ( Animals? Sure I like animals. See? There's one there, right next to the potatoes!)
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