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House Could Sink Obamacare [replay]
NewsMax ^ | April 22, 2013 | By Joseph Schmitz

Posted on 08/11/2013 12:38:35 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Joseph E. Schmitz' Perspective: The Chairman of the House Judiciary Subcommittee on the Constitution, Rep. Trent Franks of Arizona, and 19 House colleagues co-sponsored H.Res. 153 on April 12, “Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives that the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2009 violates article I, section 7, clause 1 of the United States Constitution because it was a ‘Bill for raising Revenue’ that did not originate in the House of Representatives.”

The Supreme Court has never before addressed an Origination Clause challenge that was so blatantly obvious. The only surprise is that no one raised it sooner.

In this case, there is no serious question that Obamacare originated in the Senate. And thanks to last year’s Supreme Court ruling, there is now no question that it is considered a tax. It’s irrelevant whether or not the Obama administration attempts to characterize the measure as an amendment to a House bill.

According to a March 15, 2011, Congressional research Service (CRS) report, “The Origination Clause of the U.S. Constitution: Interpretation and Enforcement," “The House’s primary method for enforcement of the Origination Clause is through a process known as ‘blue-slipping.’ Blue-slipping is the term applied to the act of returning to the Senate a measure that the House has determined violates its prerogatives as defined by the Origination Clause.”

One might ask why there was no “blue slip” in the House after Sen. Harry Reid introduced his 2,075-page self-described “Senate Health Care Bill,” which promptly morphed into an “amendment” to a six-page House bill unrelated to healthcare: “Service Members Home Ownership Tax Act of 2009,” which had passed the House by a vote of 416-0.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; 113th; defundobamacare; house; obamacare; tax; unconstitutional
"The answer is that the proverbial 13th hour circumstances of the enactment of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (aka PPACA, ACA, or Obamacare), combined with the facts that (a) the Democrats controlled both the Senate and the House at the time, and (b) no one knew that the Supreme Court would sustain the individual mandate component of the “Senate Health Care Bill” under the taxing power (the focus was on the Commerce Clause), suggesting that this one just slipped by everyone in the House who might have blue-slipped it — pun intended...
1 posted on 08/11/2013 12:38:35 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

The Singlepayer liars didn’t care about the law before, why would they care now?


2 posted on 08/11/2013 12:40:20 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Jim Robinson; All


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3 posted on 08/11/2013 12:40:30 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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4 posted on 08/11/2013 12:44:16 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Once again, it's the Constitution and America versus political expedience and party survival (BOTH parties, mainly GOP).

Who will win this round?

5 posted on 08/11/2013 12:45:07 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew

Maybe Roberts did stick it to Obie for blackmailing him and they’re just now figuring this out.


6 posted on 08/11/2013 12:52:59 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Jim Robinson
Which House will destroy Obamacare first: the one in DC, or this one?


7 posted on 08/11/2013 12:54:13 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: jsanders2001
Is Roberts that clever?

I thought his MO was never overturn Congressional legislation.

8 posted on 08/11/2013 12:58:27 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Nachum; All
The Singlepayer liars didn’t care about the law before, why would they care now?

Exactly!

9 posted on 08/11/2013 1:10:50 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: PapaNew

> Is Roberts that clever?
I thought his MO was never overturn Congressional legislation.

Nah just wishful thinking...


10 posted on 08/11/2013 1:13:05 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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Resolved from the House of Representatives (H.R. 3590)
Entitled
"An act to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986
to modify first-time home buyers credit...

11 posted on 08/11/2013 1:39:52 PM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: Clint N. Suhks; Fudd Fan; WorkerbeeCitizen; Biggirl; rightwingintelligentsia; smokingfrog; ...

“...Affordable Care Act of 2009 violates article I, section 7, clause 1 of the United States Constitution because it was a ‘Bill for raising Revenue’ that did not originate in the House of Representatives.”

“... Origination Clause challenge that was so blatantly obvious. The only surprise is that no one raised it sooner.”

I’m surprised Mark Levin’s Landmark Legal Foundation didn’t. I know he’s talked about it numerous times on the show, but did they file a legal brief? Anyone remember?... Origination Clause challenge that was so blatantly obvious. The only surprise is that no one raised it sooner.


12 posted on 08/11/2013 1:54:23 PM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: berdie

later


13 posted on 08/11/2013 2:04:17 PM PDT by berdie
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To: Jim Robinson

IIRC, this was covered way back when the Dems still held the House, just before this abomination was passed. Somebody pointed out that this revenue bill did not originate in the House, and Pelosi and Reid did a quick shuffle to make sure the bill did originate in the House.

Am I the only one who remembers this??


14 posted on 08/11/2013 2:14:44 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: NewJerseyJoe

I’m remembering something like that as well. I was trying to find something on it but couldn’t.

I think it has something to do with the Senate bill going to conference with the HOR. But I can’t verify.


15 posted on 08/11/2013 2:18:02 PM PDT by berdie
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To: Jim Robinson

Also should be challenged is Obama’s unconstitutional changing the implementation date for the employer mandate and carving out an exemption for members of Congress. I doubt the GOP court eunuchs will do anything but kowtow.


16 posted on 08/11/2013 2:51:24 PM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: carriage_hill

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3003122/posts


17 posted on 08/11/2013 2:51:38 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( ==> sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

Good catch; thanks.


18 posted on 08/11/2013 3:21:57 PM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: berdie

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/06/28/say-doesnt-the-constitution-require-tax-bills-to-originate-in-the-house/


19 posted on 08/11/2013 3:42:44 PM PDT by berdie
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To: smokingfrog

You without a doubt a better researcher than I am!

I should have read your link before I posted.


20 posted on 08/11/2013 3:45:42 PM PDT by berdie
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To: NewJerseyJoe
"The Senate began work on its own proposals while the House was still working on its bill (the Affordable Health Care for America Act); it instead took up H.R. 3590, a bill regarding housing tax breaks for service members. As the United States Constitution requires all revenue-related bills to originate in the House, the Senate took up this bill since it was first passed by the House as a revenue-related modification to the Internal Revenue Code. The bill was then used as the Senate's vehicle for their health care reform proposal, completely revising the content of the bill."

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.R._3590#Legislative_history
21 posted on 08/11/2013 10:11:26 PM PDT by Monitor ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false-front for the urge to rule it." - H. L. Mencken)
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