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St. Paul Man Fights For Life After Being Beaten By Several People
CBS Minnesota ^ | August 9, 2013

Posted on 08/11/2013 6:40:23 PM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi

MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) – Twenty-six-year-old Raymond Widstrand was walking on Payne Avenue Sunday evening when he came across a large group of people, who were watching a fight.

Police say it happened Aug. 4, 2013, at about 11:30 p.m. When police arrived, Widstrand was on the ground with his legs and arms spread out. Blood was coming from his nose and mouth. His pants were off and his shirt torn.

Police questioned several people who were on the scene. One witness told police she had been a party at an address on Preble, near Minnehaha Avenue in St Paul.

She said that some of the girls at the party started fighting outside, and everyone came out to watch.

While this was happening, according to a criminal complaint filed in Ramsey County, she saw a young white man walking into the crowd.

The witness said she saw a person, she called “Bay Bay” hit the man in the head, knocking him down.

She also told police that she saw another man begin stomping the man. Another pulled his pants off.

Sgt. Paul Paulos says it’s a senseless crime.

“He is still alive and is day-by-day,” Paulos said.

The witness told police the man was hit and beaten for no reason. She also identified the attackers as being with the “East Side Boys” or “Ham Crazy.”

Issac O’Neal Maiden, 19, is charged in Ramsey County with assault for committing a crime for the benefit of a gang.

Police say as of Aug. 8, the prognosis for recovery is slight. Should he live, he will suffer permanent and protracted loss of brain function.

(Excerpt) Read more at minnesota.cbslocal.com ...


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1 posted on 08/11/2013 6:40:23 PM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2013/08/09/st-paul-teen-charged-in-beating-that-resulted-in-brain-damage/

Another of Obama’s sons does what they do best.


2 posted on 08/11/2013 6:44:26 PM PDT by House Atreides ( D)
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To: House Atreides

Call LIzzy Dole, and see if she can use Red Cross to cater another protest march for the aggressors.


3 posted on 08/11/2013 6:48:09 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall With no one to raise him up; And I will set)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

“Several” being 30 to 50 according to other reports.

By tomorrow it will probably be down to one black child in a stroller.


4 posted on 08/11/2013 6:48:22 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: House Atreides

Well if one just moves into the neighborhood, talks softly and understands their situation they well not hurt you./S


5 posted on 08/11/2013 6:49:26 PM PDT by riverrunner
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi
Sgt. Paul Paulos says it’s a senseless crime.

If this isn't a hate crime, then what is? Out of 50+ people, only the white one was beaten.
6 posted on 08/11/2013 6:50:07 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: BenLurkin

Here ya go ... no mention of race, and no unsightly pictures of the suspect whose name makes him sound like a nice Irish boy.


7 posted on 08/11/2013 6:53:10 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

WND had the tetsticular fortitude to say he was beaten into a coma by a bunch of blacks.


8 posted on 08/11/2013 6:55:43 PM PDT by gitmo ( If your theology doesn't become your biography it's useless.)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

Several Holder’s People? Look who the cowards are...


9 posted on 08/11/2013 6:56:09 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Arguing with a marxist is like playing Chess with a Pigeon.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Out of 50+ people, only the white one was beaten.
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I could go back and read the article again, but I do not recall seeing a word describing the race of the attackers. When it involves blacks or Muslims today, these words are banned from the reporters lexicon.


10 posted on 08/11/2013 6:56:24 PM PDT by iontheball
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

Clearly someone who did not get The Talk per Derbyshire. A pity for him and his family.

http://takimag.com/article/the_talk_nonblack_version_john_derbyshire/print#axzz2biQMcJ6A

I hope the perps are caught and jailed for life.


11 posted on 08/11/2013 6:59:16 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Red in Blue PA

This sort of reminds me of the guy who was eaten by the bears he was living among. The only difference was the bears were much more easy going than the black mob.

I also remember a couple of times where white couples were accidentally let off public transportation in some Black area and were promptly murdered and for the girls raped.

The difference is that the very worst White people as a group would not bother an innocent Black guy just walking by. A black guy could walk by a KKK meeting and would not be bothered unless he purposely incited them.


12 posted on 08/11/2013 7:00:00 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: DuncanWaring

Thank you for the ping.


13 posted on 08/11/2013 7:00:22 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: House Atreides
It is time we were honest about the evidence.

   Figure 3 zooms in on the region of extreme aggressiveness. The areas under the curves beyond 3.2 SD represent the respective probabilities that a random black, white or Asian will be aggressive enough to commit assault. In the right tail, aggressiveness probabilities are small, but they show that compared to whites and Asians, blacks are much more likely to be extremely aggressive.

Table 4. U.S. gonorrhea rates by race and ethnicity, 1992


Group
Rate per 100,000 of group
Non-Hispanic blacks 1408.1
Hispanics 95.2
American Indians 94.0
non-Hispanic whites 35.4
Asian/Pacific Islanders 22.4

Table 3. Standard Criminality Values*


black males 0.813 SD
blacks 0.525
Hispanic males 0.430
Hispanics 0.199
white males 0
whites -0.211
black females -0.214
Hispanic females -0.467
white females -0.817

*The standard criminality of the white male is arbitrarily set to zero. Values for other groups are given relative to this zero. The mean difference between any two groups is the difference in their standard criminalities. The difference is independent of the choice of zero.

Source

The problem may be cultural and not racial...but it is still a problem and, as such, it must be solved.

We have passed the time for political correctness and deceit for the sake of feelings.

People of all races are being murdered by just one race. It is time to speak the truth and fix the problem.

14 posted on 08/11/2013 7:02:05 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Liberals' first line of defense is emotion...the fall back position is specious reasoning.)
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To: iontheball

I just re read it...not one word about blacks...good ol C-BS.


15 posted on 08/11/2013 7:02:38 PM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (When will those PAYING for Obamacare be exempted?)
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To: yarddog

There is a book, “The Complete Worst-Case Scenario Survival Handbook” that describes what I believe to be good advice, that I won’t go into, in this situation.


16 posted on 08/11/2013 7:05:40 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Red in Blue PA
“Several” being 30 to 50 according to other reports.

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Correct. The article linked in Post 2 notes:

"According to the complaint, at 11:30 p.m. on Aug. 4, St. Paul police found 40 to 50 young adults fleeing the scene of a man on the ground with blood coming from his nose and mouth. Once at Regions, the victim was found to have severe and potentially fatal brain swelling."

17 posted on 08/11/2013 7:05:44 PM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi
The Inductivist on interracial criminal homicide:

The Trayvon Martin case is an opportunity to remind people of the reality of interracial crime in the United States.

For the purposes of this analysis, I'll use the term "whites" to refer to whites plus Hispanics since they get lumped together in the data. According to FBI data for 2010,  218 blacks were murdered by whites. Blacks murdered 447 whites. But this is comparing apples and oranges since whites are 6.4 times the size of the black population. If we calculate murders per 10 million in the race-specific population (interracial murder is rare), the rate is 8.82 for whites and 114.89 for blacks. So blacks kill whites at a rate 13 times higher than that of whites killing blacks.

18 posted on 08/11/2013 7:08:10 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi
the only race mentioned was the one who was slaughtered....

they keep referring to these "persons"....

nothing like coloring the truth up........

19 posted on 08/11/2013 7:11:26 PM PDT by cherry
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

Gee, no mention of the ethnicities of anyone involved.

Hmmmm, Applying my reverse MSM style book filter I can guess that everyone involved was not black, as the MSM style book forbids any reporting beyond statistical coverage of a black-on-black incident. If it were that he would only be reported as one of x-number of beating victims that weekend, if at all.

I also know the victim was not a black with white attackers, as the style book explicitly requires reporting of the victim’s and attackers’ ethnicities were the case. Follow-up coverage is required to name every white suspect and give their home address, phone numbers, SSNs and name their employers wherever possible.

Were there any illegal aliens involved? Not as a victim, the style book requires reportage of how this desperate soul was escaping economic, political or religious persecution in whatever self created 3rd world cesspit he came from, with additional coverage of his devastated wife and sobbing children, and a long screed about how he came to America for a better life. If the attackers were illegal aliens, if is permissible to mention their countries of origin only if you imply they are here legally, or at least are contributing to America by sopping up a job no American would want.

That leaves most probable event as a white victim, assaulted by multiple black males.

Anybody actually know?


20 posted on 08/11/2013 7:12:25 PM PDT by null and void (Frequent terrorist attacks OR endless government snooping and oppression? Soon we'll have both!)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

I wonder how much of his injuries came from being knocked out, with his head landing on the ground from a standing position. Natasha Richardson fell and encountered the same problem, ultimately dying from acute subdural hematoma caused by the fall.


21 posted on 08/11/2013 7:14:38 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi
Wonder why no one's taken the trouble to post this:

Raymond Widstrand --permanent brain damage

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"Teenager", Issac O’Neal Maiden, 19, is charged in Ramsey County with assault

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No sense tiptoeing around the elephant in the room...

22 posted on 08/11/2013 7:15:42 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: null and void

I stand corrected, they did mention the victim was white.


23 posted on 08/11/2013 7:16:07 PM PDT by null and void (Frequent terrorist attacks OR endless government snooping and oppression? Soon we'll have both!)
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To: null and void
St. Paul Teen Charged In Beating That Resulted In Brain Damage

http://cbsminnesota.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/issac-maiden.jpg

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24 posted on 08/11/2013 7:18:30 PM PDT by digger48
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To: TXnMA

What do the other 29-49 assailants look like?

Issac O’Neal Maiden. A nice Jewish, Irish, virgin girl from the name, eh?


25 posted on 08/11/2013 7:18:30 PM PDT by null and void (Frequent terrorist attacks OR endless government snooping and oppression? Soon we'll have both!)
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To: null and void

the keyword in the title is people as described the by munificent erik “the red” holder


26 posted on 08/11/2013 7:18:57 PM PDT by bigheadfred (INFIDEL)
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To: RoosterRedux

Inner city blacks are raised by women, who can teach actions based on feelings. Since the mom has no self control, she does not teach self control. Result is a boy growing up to use violence if he feels you dissed him. Looking at him the wrong way or replying in the wrong tone can evoke a violent reaction.
Opposite of the black inner city culture is the Arab culture where boys are raised solely by male members of the family after the age of eight. Very little female influence. Here you see the opposite, no sense of empathy. If a person was told to shoot another person, most would feel the person to be killed is still a human being. Arabs will not feel an infidel is human even if he is crying at the last moments of his life before being put to death.
Both cultures devoid of balance, but end up with the same result, one kills if slightly offended and one kills outsiders with very little feelings. Two groups in the US will offer great challenge to security, blacks and Muslims. Both can kill at a slight offense.
Before whites can become complacent of ones culture, single mom families are rising amongst whites. One day we all may be dealing with white men with no self control also.


27 posted on 08/11/2013 7:21:19 PM PDT by Fee
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To: gitmo

So, you mean that you do not need a gun to do grevious bodily harm to someone?


28 posted on 08/11/2013 7:24:34 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: TXnMA

Thank you for posting those pictures of the victim and one of the perps as a pictures do help tell the story. A sad story that we see repeated far too often in present day America. I would have posted the pictures, but I’m on my phone and I haven’t mastered getting the URLs from photos in articles while using my phone.


29 posted on 08/11/2013 7:24:54 PM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi
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To: digger48; TXnMA

Were there no grade school pictures of Mr Maiden available?


30 posted on 08/11/2013 7:25:44 PM PDT by null and void (Frequent terrorist attacks OR endless government snooping and oppression? Soon we'll have both!)
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31 posted on 08/11/2013 7:25:53 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: digger48

The perp has dead eyes. He has the look of someone that has low intelligence and no empathy for others. He likely feels no remorse over brutally beating an innocent man.


32 posted on 08/11/2013 7:32:50 PM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

He should have profiled. Not doing so in some situations is insane. Middle class blacks avoid the ghetto as well. I hope he recovers.


33 posted on 08/11/2013 7:36:10 PM PDT by sunrise_sunset
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To: Zhang Fei

Did she lose her pants and shirt as well?...................


34 posted on 08/11/2013 7:36:26 PM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

After researching the FBI numbers for “Suicide of a Superpower,” this writer concluded: “An analysis of ‘single offender victimization figures’ from the FBI for 2007 finds blacks committed 433,934 crimes against whites, eight times the 55,685 whites committed against blacks. Interracial rape is almost exclusively black on white — with 14,000 assaults on white women by African Americans in 2007. Not one case of a white sexual assault on a black female was found in the FBI study.”

Though blacks are outnumbered 5-to-1 in the population by whites, they commit eight times as many crimes against whites as the reverse. By those 2007 numbers, a black male was 40 times as likely to assault a white person as the reverse.

If interracial crime is the ugliest manifestation of racism, what does this tell us about where racism really resides — in America?


35 posted on 08/11/2013 7:37:38 PM PDT by kabar
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi
The perp has dead eyes. He has the look of someone that has low intelligence and no empathy for others.

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36 posted on 08/11/2013 7:39:50 PM PDT by digger48
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

That dreadlock killer looks stoned, under the influence of something


37 posted on 08/11/2013 7:42:12 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Fee
Arab culture where boys are raised solely by male members of the family after the age of eight

Source please. I lived five years in Saudi Arabia and visited all the arab countries in the region and never saw that to be the case. In Saudi, there was what amounts to sexual apartheid, but the mothers take care of their children regardless of sex. Many arab men revere their mothers who spoil them rotten.

38 posted on 08/11/2013 7:43:53 PM PDT by kabar
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi
The mob may have been the instrument used to beat him nearly to death, but it's the racist hate mongers, many who still publicly feed on Trayvon Martin's dead body, who were swinging it against that white boy.

All you race hate preachers in the pulpits, in our schools, our govenment and on our radios and TVs, it's time to preach Love and Forgiveness instead, and act like you mean it so your followers will join with you.

If you're feeling hatred, jealousy, envy and rage, that's not coming from Jesus, so don't be spreading that around.

Doing so is auditioning to become Satan's chew toy and bringing others with you.

Don't believe me, read 2 Timothy 3:1-17 for yourself, then make the necessary changes while you still can.

39 posted on 08/11/2013 7:43:59 PM PDT by GBA (Our obamanation: Romans 1:18-32)
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To: yarddog

“The difference is that the very worst White people as a group would not bother an innocent Black guy just walking by. A black guy could walk by a KKK meeting and would not be bothered unless he purposely incited them.”

I agree. Name any place in USA where a black person is afraid of getting beaten by a group of whites. Name any ghetto of blacks where a white person wouldn’t be afraid of that.


40 posted on 08/11/2013 7:44:49 PM PDT by MNDude (The system worked!)
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To: sunrise_sunset

Yes, if you see a group of blacks it is best to avoid them. Sad, but true.


41 posted on 08/11/2013 7:46:22 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: sunrise_sunset
He should have profiled. Not doing so in some situations is insane.

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Sadly, most whites have been so trained since birth (in school, by the media, and in society in general) that "we're all the same" and to think otherwise is "racist", that a fair number of whites have no recognition that a large pack of urban black people does pose a greater threat to them than a pack of any other people.

While we often laugh at the insanity of political correctness, political correctness can and often does cause deaths of people who have been trained out of logical yet unpolitically correct thoughts.

42 posted on 08/11/2013 7:46:53 PM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi
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To: RoosterRedux; MestaMachine; Old Sarge; MWestMom; hummingbird; bronxville; shibumi; ...
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St. Paul Man Fights For Life After Being Beaten By Several"People"

Article and comments, esp # 14.

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43 posted on 08/11/2013 7:52:53 PM PDT by LucyT ("So a Hispanic shoots a black and is acquitted by women, but it's still white mens fault"")
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To: kabar

You only have 2007 numbers because inter-racial crime stats are not being updated...on purpose. In the 0bama era they must be more heavily slanted black on white

These numbers are for serious bodily crimes —assault, rape, murder. When does a white man ever rape a black woman? But the opposite takes place all the time, there is a war on white women by black men. This is the real truth that Eric Holder and Jesse Jackson will never discuss in their “conversation on racism” pure BS if I ever heard it.


44 posted on 08/11/2013 7:56:05 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Pining_4_TX

“There is nothing more painful to me … than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery, then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved.”

-Jesse Jackson


45 posted on 08/11/2013 7:56:54 PM PDT by windsorknot (>>>)
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To: windsorknot

Probably the only honest thing Jesse ever said.


46 posted on 08/11/2013 8:00:56 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: Pining_4_TX
Probably the only honest thing Jesse ever said.

It was a momentary lapse of irrationality.

47 posted on 08/11/2013 8:05:18 PM PDT by windsorknot (>>>)
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To: LucyT

I dispute the assertion that the perps in this crime qualify as “people” .


48 posted on 08/11/2013 8:07:34 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: yarddog

Wickedness walks in this world.


49 posted on 08/11/2013 8:09:46 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and mean it. See my page.)
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To: TXnMA

That’s the oldest looking “teenager” I’ve seen. Animals


50 posted on 08/11/2013 8:11:49 PM PDT by dandiegirl
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